Who would win this war? no usa involvment

south korea is going to be north korea's hong kong soon.

Rest of the world

>war
>no USA involvement
Good bants, leaf-kun

>SK, the second strongest army in Asia is missing
okay

South korea is north korea's army now

Japan
There's no question

China and the Korean Peninsula will decline.
Japan has nothing to need to do.

>no usa involvment
Japan isn't even allowed to have its own army
if you really think the Japanese Self-Defense Forces can stop the PLA alone you're simply deluded, without the USA Japan is fucked

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>yes total war.
which means article-9 is renounced or suspended, then japan hands down.
the only option to defeat the rising sun is basically the rest of the world vs it, otherwise we are invincible.
chinks + gooks are nowhere near the rest of the world and thus it would end up as yet another rape of nanking, beijing, seoul and pyongyang as always.

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Israel would win, obviously

>if you really think the Japanese Self-Defense Forces can stop the PLA alone you're simply deluded
China has absolutely no way to get troops across the drink into Japan anyway, so...

Didn't China lose 20,000 guys invading Vietnam once?

Vietnam is based and a greaveyard for empires
Japan is a pathetic nation of defeated self-haters that relies on american muhreens being present to defend it from any possible threat

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what's the point? just keep lobbing ballistic missiles over with anthrax and chemical weapons. japanese can't even produce their own sm-6 to load their aegis defense.

Australia: loser/fatality

Canada: flawless victory/winner

Surprisingly, IRL war is not Cawwad00dy.

Not him but I thought I recall China had a no first strike policy and would only use their nukes as a desperation last resort measure if invaded.

nah if we use this thought experiment just as, total war, no USA. than nukes would be on the table. why the fuck not use them if your opponent can't and it's a total war scenario?

Can China's navy beat Japan's yet?

Japan

LOLno. Their navy is purely brown water and Third World tier.

Then they can't invade, so it's a stalemate. Or technically a japanese victory, if the goal is to avoid invasion.

>just keep lobbing ballistic missiles over with anthrax and chemical weapons

That would be expecting half of said missiles to even reach their target and not horribly miss or explode in the air. Since we're also talking China here, the probability of that happening seems pretty good.

Of course chinkland would win.
We can't beat them with this stupid article 9 and without nukes.
That's why we hire the USA security service Inc.

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>no usa involvment
no reason to start war
we will be on china side

and what can japan do in retaliation if they lack ballistics missiles that can strike production facilities in inner china? develop an immunity to anthrax and chemical weapons?

>Then they can't invade, so it's a stalemate
^This. Neither China or Japan could get at each other's mainland. Also pay no mind to the chink posting from his welfare apartment in Vancouver in here.

going to nuclear war against japan is not a good idea. even article-9 restricted japan has this capabilities, and we are talking about a hypothetical scenario where japan is unleashed, aren't we?

>Nuclear latency or a Nuclear threshold state is the condition of a country possessing the technology to quickly build nuclear weapons, without having actually yet done so.[1] Because such latent capability is not proscribed by the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, this is sometimes called the "Japan Option" (as a work-around to the treaty), as Japan is considered a "paranuclear" state, being a clear case of a country with complete technical prowess to develop a nuclear weapon quickly,[2][3] or as it is sometimes called "being one screwdriver's turn" from the bomb, as Japan is considered to have the materials, expertise and technical capacity to make a nuclear bomb at will.[4][5][6][7][8][9]

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even if you remove article 9, the time it takes to refine, produce, test, miniaturize, mount and create a supply chain would be too long. the moment war is declared japan would have 1-2 week at most before the Chinese mobilize their nuclear weapons and start mass production of nuclear weapons. at that point, it won't matter if japan tries to make nukes, China can simply nuke every suspected production facility and every naval port and every civilian population center. this is assuming a total-war scenario.

only based answer itt
koreas, china, and japan vs am*rimutts
WOLLT IHR DEN TOTALEN KRIEG

you are naive if you think japan doesn't start production at the point the war seems inevitable. it's not like they can storm japan out of the blue eh? but judging from your posts, your scenario seems to assume article-9 regime japan singlehandedly goes to total war without any preparation or buildups for some reasons, that's highly unlikely. the article-9 regime is based on the japan-america alliance, and no america as an ally obliged to support japan, no article-9, and yet you are trying to make a restricted japan without american support fight. that's nonsense. irl, the alliance has one year grace period before a breakup, so within the period japan would deploy nukes.

i work with the scenario given, it simply says total-war no usa.. i mean if we're going to add things than why not add 10 year prep time? you are overthinking this.

>why not add 10 year
i reckon you want a scenario close to the status quo as much as possible, no?
if so, the most probable case where japan fights china and koreas with no american support would be the said one: japan-america alliance was resolved after one year grace period.

*alliance was dissolved

i reckon i want a scenario as close to the thread topic dumbass. if you want to add things to this retarded hypothetical scenario, make your own thread. why are you japs so autistic?

>why are you japs so autistic?
because i can't stand something pointless.

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no presne!

Japan can have nuclear weapon in a year
Moreover Japan already has nuclear materials and missile technologies

>why are you japs so autistic?
Calm down. Chang
Why do you butthurt shortly?
Are you autistic?

okay dude, take it to a thread where you make your own hypothetical scenario. geezes fucking eh, autism is a national epidemic over there isn't it.

Is this true South Korea is more greater than western nations and japan?

1:
List of coutries by average wage 2017
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lis
t_of_countries_by_average_wage

Japan 40,863 Us doller
It’s next to of the Sweden 42,393 Us doller

Korea 35,191 Us doller
It’s 2 rank poorer than Spain 38,507 us doller.

Sweden 42,393
Japan 40,863
New Zealand 40,043
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Spain 38,507
Italy 36,658
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South Korea 35,191
Israel 35,067
Slovenia 34,933 26,713

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2:
GDP per capita. 2017
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lis
t_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per
_capita

Japanese GDP per capita is ranked 23
38,448
Arround the same level of UK and UAE.

Korean GDP per capita is ranked 27
29,938
Poorer than Puerto Rico
31,581 Ranked 26
And arround the same level of the Spain.

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3:
In GDP ranking
Japan is third biggest GDP japan alone.
Korea is 11th place. 7 stage smaller economy than japan.

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4:
2018Korean minimum wage in korea per hour.
6.73 us doller.
It is lower than
Tokyo 8.81 us doller
And Lower than Osaka 8.36 us doller

But slicely higher than Okinawa 6.60 us doller(poorest place of japan).

And this is the reason korean is keep on saying they surpassed japan at minimum wage per hour lol

statista.com/statistics/641616/south-korea-minimum-wage/

checkinprice.com/average-an
d-minimum-salary-in-tokyo-japan/

"South Korea's jobless rate hits highest level since the global financial crisis"
The jobs report showed the labor-intensive retail and accommodation sector, which lost 202,000 jobs in August from a year earlier, was the hardest hit.
A total 105,000 jobs were lost from manufacturing industries, the report said.
google.co.jp/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/09/12/south-korea-jobless-rate-hits-highest-level-since-financial-crisis.html

S.Korea's minimum wage hike disappoints workers, business
"We can't accept the decision by the Minimum Wage Commission," the Korea Federation of Micro Enterprise said in a statement.
"business owners are at a crossroads where they cannot help but choose either business shutdowns or staff cuts," the association said, adding that they were facing a "miserable reality."
news.abs-cbn.com/business/07/15/18/skoreas-minimum-wage-hike-disappoints-workers-business

This is simiar case of the Venezuela!
The president moon of korea is openly pro communism acctivists and rises minimum wage without any money resources but a idealism of communist, so it became the South Korean jobless rate hits the highest level since the global financial crisis.

rise of the minimum wage without money resources made the serious employment crisis in Korea now.

Do you know why there is so many korean trying to go to japan to find work but no any Japanese want to go to korea to find work?

employment rate of Japanese university students graduated this spring was (98.0%).
This is the highest since the survey began in 1997
It is 30 points higher than the SK employment rate (67.7%) .
that the Korean Ministry of Education graduated in December last year.

This meaning korea has now employment crisis and no job in korea.

Korean economical bubble grows is fucking ended.
If you can’t believe anything but number of the chart of the stuck price is only truth.

Korea has no future just all of korean company will replaced by China.

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nope
nope
kill your self

nope, check again

How do you think about it?
It’s reality of korea base on the number of he sarcastic.

absolutely cucked

Don't derail the thread, retarded netouyo. Nobody gives a shit about your episode.

my opinion about these are same as

You two face the reality
I mean how can be such a tiny nation could roll important way .

Korean economical bubble grows is fucking ended.
If you can’t believe anything but number of the chart of the stuck price is only truth

Korea has no future just all of korean company will replaced by China.

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this is you.

Read

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stop replying to me with your autism and stop making your parent compensate for your failure

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"South Korea's jobless rate hits highest level since the global financial crisis"
The jobs report showed the labor-intensive retail and accommodation sector, which lost 202,000 jobs in August from a year earlier, was the hardest hit.
A total 105,000 jobs were lost from manufacturing industries, the report said.
google.co.jp/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/09/12/south-korea-jobless-rate-hits-highest-level-since-financial-crisis.html

S.Korea's minimum wage hike disappoints workers, business
"We can't accept the decision by the Minimum Wage Commission," the Korea Federation of Micro Enterprise said in a statement.
"business owners are at a crossroads where they cannot help but choose either business shutdowns or staff cuts," the association said, adding that they were facing a "miserable reality."
news.abs-cbn.com/business/07/15/18/skoreas-minimum-wage-hike-disappoints-workers-business

This is simiar case of the Venezuela!
The president moon of korea is openly pro communism acctivists and rises minimum wage without any money resources but a idealism of communist, so it became the South Korean jobless rate hits the highest level since the global financial crisis.

rise of the minimum wage without money resources made the serious employment crisis in Korea now.

Do you know why there is so many korean trying to go to japan to find work but no any Japanese want to go to korea to find work?

employment rate of Japanese university students graduated this spring was (98.0%).
This is the highest since the survey began in 1997
It is 30 points higher than the SK employment rate (67.7%) .
that the Korean Ministry of Education graduated in December last year.

This meaning korea has now employment crisis and no job in korea.

Korean economical bubble grows is fucking ended.
If you can’t believe anything but number of the chart of the stuck price is only truth.

Korea has no future just all of korean company will replaced by China.

except for there is always american involvement

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>no USA involvement
already implausible, desu. At the very least, the US would lean on its naval power to completely cut off oil supplies to China like they did against Japan.

$3 Billion Hedge Fund Bets Samsung’s Woes Are Bad News for South Korea’s Stock Market
bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-06/samsung-pain-prompts-3-billion-hedge-fund-to-add-bearish-bets

cucked beyond belief desu

That’s why Abe is now makeing JF From JDF.

just make emperor in charge again, or go feudal. Its just boring american vassal copy/pasta atm.

if it escalates into a world war you fucking bet we're coming

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they're fine, article 9 is just a fuckin meme now. you know they have a better navy than you already, the only thing they lack is basically nukes

my country doesnt really exist anymore, well the memory of it does and parts of it do but..

;_;

>You two face the reality
The reality you gotta face is that you are a stupid spammer bombarding every thread with your autism, autism which can't even be fully comprehended due to SO MANY mistakes in English, and you believe you are defending Japan or something despite the fact that YOU are a disgrace to Japan.

>I mean how can be such a tiny nation could roll important way .
Is this even an English sentence?

>Korean economical bubble grows is fucking ended.
ECONOMIC bubble GROWTH

>If you can’t believe anything but number of the chart of the stuck price is only truth
What is this sentence again? Also, STOCK price.

>Korea has no future just all korean company will replaced by China.
*COMPANIES will BE replaced

You manage to fuck up literally every sentence. Seriously, why are you posting on an English board when you can't even compose coherent and comprehensible English sentences? Not only that, but you've been bombarding every thread with these nonsense. And you chimp out whenever you are ignored, saying "read!". I would say that NOBODY CAN, RETARD, GTFO.

btw which side does s.korea belong to?

Ok collect the all the sentence. It will thankful for me
Go

And how would they do that? Will Central Asia and Russia just stop selling oil to China for the lulz?

Pipeline capacity to China over land is miniscule compared to what is brought in over the ocean, so Russia and Central Asia will make out like bandits while still not being able to supply enough to keep China going.

Japanese armed forces are focused in defence, so Japan will never win a war as in take their capital and make them surrender or something
Without nuke and less use of missiles I'd say Japan will hold for a long time but both cunts have nukes so Japan won't be lasting long if USA decided to be like they did pearl harbor the worst incident of 21 century so fuck them
And that is basically the only reason Japan is allied to USA

That’s why Abe is now makeing JF From JDF.