>One Russian in Four Lacks an Indoor Toilet, One of Many Signs There are Now ‘Four Distinct Russias’
According to a new report by Russia’s state statistical agency, Rosstat, 35 million Russians live in houses or apartments without indoor toilets, 47 million do not have hot water, 29 million don’t have any running water inside their residences, and 22 million do not have central heating (ehorussia.com/new/node/17679).
In fact, only 62.7 percent of the Russian population has the usual accoutrements of modern existence – water in the house, plumbing, heating and gas or electric ranges, Rosstat says, a fact that must seem incredible to those who visit only Moscow or St. Petersburg but a fact of life for those who lives beyond the ring roads of the capitals. russialist.org/one-russian-in-four-lacks-an-indoor-toilet-one-of-many-signs-there-are-now-four-distinct-russias/
They must spend all money on rockets, they have no resources to improve their lives.
Leo Kelly
Isn't this still an improvement over the communist era?
Asher Watson
You gotta build 'em luxery duck houses.
Easton Ward
Hard to tell, because commie statistics were usually full of lies to present reality in prettier way than it really was. But it might be really true that for such countries like Russia and Ukraine, even soviet era was better than today's oligarchic-cleptocratic-cleptocapitalist system. Ukraine is pretty much stagnant since 90s. Russia is a bit more well-off only thanks to oil/gas money.
Literally that's why i think that what Europe and USA need now is a massive arms race, even bigger one than during Cold War. It would solve economical problems in the West: high military spendings would be good to make economies more resistant on crisis. Thousands of tons of new weapon could be always used on other continents like Africa or Middle East, if war with Russia doesn't happen. But Russia itself would be basically starved and Russian population could forget for another decades what is a new public toilet.
Blake Green
My God, i didn't know Russia was this poor.
Here in Brazil everyone has toilets.
Levi Fisher
And what conclusion do you do?
Daniel Price
Even india builds toilets
Luke Young
Spend money on toilets and roads instead of military adventurism outside your borders.
Jaxson Hall
the US are already spending more money on the military than the rest of the world combined Also, western Europe is indebted as fuck, we can't afford it
Ukraine relly dun goofed with (post-)soviet oligarchs scooping up everything for a penny. They are practially ruled by four oligarchs in cartell. Russia was on same path until they started jailing and confisticating their property. How did Poland escape that pit?
Daniel Hill
>the US are already spending more money on the military than the rest of the world combined
Not enough. The USA should spend at least 1 trillion dollar on military per annum to maintain supremacy in circumstances of rapidly growing Chinese spendings. They need 5 years yet to achieve this level. The USA also needs to shift more money from maintaing bases all over the world into developing new weapon giving a radical strategic supremacy over opponents. USA needs new strategy for outer space: installing nukes in the space would already give huge supremacy over such rogue nuclear countries like Russia or North Korea that can't afford it. USA needs to rebuild its navy which is in worst condition since 70s. USA needs to rebuild its land army which was neglected for decades.
Europe is pretty much disarmed, so the only thing that can make Europe healthy is rising miltary spendings to 3-4% GDP per annum
Matthew Nguyen
>Also, western Europe is indebted as fuck, we can't afford it
Remove benefits for parasites, and you will swim in money
Noah Cook
With such military spending, you also risk being left without toilets
Nolan Harris
All European countries can easily afford 3-4% GDP military spendings. They only reason for which they don't do this is because they are NATO members and they believe that USA would protect them, so they lose motivation to develop their military strenght. But it is going to change soon.
Adam Mitchell
why do you love the US so much? there are no friends of us I can understand that polish people are afraid of Russia but western Europe has nothing to gain antagonizing Russia
>Europe is pretty much disarmed, so the only thing that can make Europe healthy is rising miltary spendings to 3-4% GDP per annum it's already more than Russia with 2% of the GDP
Also, the US is the biggest rogue state in the world, I hope that the multipolar order will limit their nuisance if more countries are capable of standng up to them
Jacob Ortiz
>Remove benefits for parasites, and you will swim in money the money will have to be move to the police forces and prisons in that case, without benefits western Europe will loose its social peace
Jonathan Ortiz
If you want to be sure that Russia won't attack you, you need to be 10x stronger than Russia. 5x stronger is not enough.
Robert Sanchez
Poles worked hard to make a grassroots democracy back when communism fell.
Logan Bailey
Also a lot of them don't face any military threats.
Owen Kelly
>Also, the US is the biggest rogue state in the world, I hope that the multipolar order will limit their nuisance if more countries are capable of standng up to them
No matter how much such countries like Poland, France, Germany or Hungary spend on their militaries, they will never be even in tiny percent as strong as the USA. So USA will never have any rational reason to be "afraid" of you. If the USA liquidates NATO, you all will be kissing its feet in biliteral relations out of fear what future brings.
William Edwards
Keep dreaming, Pierre.
Lucas Bailey
they won't anyway, we have nukes and they have 0 interests in doing so
William Butler
As long as Europe and Russia has a mutual relationship there won't be any war. Europe is dependent on Russian gas and Europe is Russia's biggest market. If in the future Europe manages to get rid of Russian gas by alternative energy source then things might be different. What's happening in Ukraine and Syria and because of gas market
Gabriel Myers
>Also a lot of them don't face any military threats.
So these threats must be created. The easiest way to create threats is removing American umbrella from them. Then they will find themselves in new-old reality they knew from past centuries, and all of a sudden their lives would become much darker and scarrier. And they all would suddenly realize that spending 4% GDP on military is a good idea
Tyler Diaz
>The USA should spend at least 1 trillion dollar on military per annum to maintain supremacy in circumstances of rapidly growing Chinese spendings A significant portion of China's defense budget is stolen or goes to line the pockets of party bosses or army generals.
Jaxon Brown
They don't give a shit about that. Only thing coming out of gas trade is a bigger army for Russia.
Landon Nguyen
Germanic money
Josiah Young
when i say countries will stand up to the US i do not mean France but Russia, China, India...
>If the USA liquidates NATO, you all will be kissing its feet in biliteral relations out of fear what future brings like what future? we do not need the US, at the contrary it's our alliance with the US that put us at risk. Against who would we need the US to protect us?
Camden Adams
>like what future? we do not need the US,
You actually do. The USA has thousands of ways to destroy Europe without even declaring war on it. You wouldn't want even half of them to be tested on your country.
Michael Scott
Antagonizing how?
Richer Eastern Europe obviously means richer western Europe too. Russians have attacked Paris before.
Blake Harris
>Against who would we need the US to protect us?
You can't even protect yourself from refugees, not to mention foreign armies
Camden Miller
>ehorussia.com that's a source a Swede would use
Daniel Lee
Sure but nothing will change Europe will keep on buying Russian gas. They're building Nordstream 2 after as we speak. Germany is totally dependent on Russian gas. And now that those retards banned nuclear power things are unlikely to change
Zachary Baker
>Then they will find themselves in new-old reality they knew from past centuries, and all of a sudden their lives would become much darker and scarrier once again, what threats are you talking about?
A significant portion of US defense budget is stolen or goes to line the pockets of private contractors
Camden Adams
So now Russia is ruled by only Putlin who scoops money for his family, Ivan.
Jaxon Martinez
>once again, what threats are you talking about?
If there is no NATO, France can be attacked by Spain or Germany for example.
Austin Parker
You have deviated from the topic. Here we discuss Russian toilets, not military budget parity.
we need the US to protect us from... the US? lmao you are nt making any sense
>Russians have attacked Paris before. 200 years ago, after we attacked them. >Antagonizing how? treating them like some paria, pushing for NATO extension (NATO should have dismantle after the collapse of USSR)
what foreign army? Russia? we have nukes and they are too far away the only country who could invade France is the US so once again, we need the US to protect us from them? >Refugees this is a political problem not military and the refugees exist because of the US meddling in the middle east and the US are pushing hard for more refugees in Europe. Once a white male hating democrat will be president in less than 2 years now, Poland will be forced to accept refugees, trans right and all that crap. Enjoying US imperialism much?
Luis Jones
This is very interesting, but 80.9% of population in Russia is urban, and what happens to some mountain goat fuckers or Eastern tribes never worried me much
Carson White
yess
Ethan Sullivan
>If there is no NATO, France can be attacked by Spain or Germany for example. kek, we have excellent diplomatic and business relations with those two countries, a war would ruin us all And we have nukes they don't, a better military than them as well and anyway we are all old countries without any will for war so that's not going to happen
If NATO stops existing, Germany and Spain will have nukes too. And "good relations" can be turned into hostile ones in few days. Is it a good idea to risk peace in Europe instead of simply paying more for US-led NATO that guarantees peace in Europe for more than 70 years already?
Nathan Kelly
lmaoo.. not all european countries are in nato also greece and nato were in a brink of war despite nato
Ryder Watson
>80.9% urban >only 62.7 percent have water in the house, plumbing, heating and gas or electric ranges
Aiden Taylor
>Is it a good idea to risk peace in Europe instead of simply paying more for US-led Why the fuck are Poles such cucks for USA? But bitch about Germany I'd rather have a strong independent EU without those mutts
Logan Cook
I dont believe in united Europe with one army. If USA cancels NATO, Europeans would just begin to kill each other like they used to do in previous centuries
Jonathan Peterson
Why do you think that will happen? European markets are so integrated wars wouldn't benefit anyone.
Lucas Allen
It takes one bigger economical crisis to make European countries realize that their economical interests are opposite. Just like it happened in 1929/30
Gabriel Bennett
>And "good relations" can be turned into hostile ones in few days why would they ruin their economy for a stupid pointless war. We have no dispute with any of our neighbours. also no more NATO doesn't mean no more EU. and anyway, we are all old countries where the median age is around 40 and rapidly going up, those kind of country don't go at war, especially in devastating wars with neighbours, the public opinion would never allow it. We can't even stand more than five military deaths in our modern wars
>Is it a good idea to risk peace in Europe instead of simply paying more for US-led NATO that guarantees peace in Europe for more than 70 years already? You brought the refugee crisis which is a direct consequence of the NATO led military adventure in the middle east and is the biggest risk for Europe right now so at the contrary the US is a source of chaos actually. And anyway, that's your ambition? begging for the US protection? do you realize that it has a cost which is transfromng your country in a multicultural nation full of refugees, fags and trans
Luke Edwards
>why would they ruin their economy for a stupid pointless war.
Exactly for the same reasons they did it countless times in the past
Carson Wood
>You brought the refugee crisis which is a direct consequence of the NATO led military adventure in the middle east and is the biggest risk for Europe right now so at the contrary the US is a source of chaos actually.
Refugee crisis is a result of the fact that such countries like France or Germany fail to contribute properly to American wars in the Middle East. If you spent more money and resources, there would be no refugee crisis today. Refugee crisis is possible only because such countries like Germany spend 1% GDP on army instead of 4%, so they cant send tens of thousands of soldiers and thousands of tanks and jets to help the USA to keep order in crucial places
Jaxon Russell
yes and this time is over it was at a time when economies weren't as integrated as now and countries had real different strategic interests. Wars between countries are over, when was the last big international in latin America : centuries ago, in Asia : 50 years ago. Actually, it only happens in the middle east or with your dear USA
Angel King
>yes and this time is over it was at a time when economies weren't as integrated as now
Integration is not eternal. It can be destroyed completely by one major economical crisis
Henry Hill
it doesn't make any sense, it's because we intervened in those countries that refugees happen, if we did not go at war with Hussein Iraq and support terrorists against Assad, there would not be any refugees or terrorism in Europe
>so they cant send tens of thousands of soldiers and thousands of tanks and jets to help the USA to keep order in crucial places why the fuck would we do that? Arabs will never accept western presence in their country so the more soldiers are deployed there the more terrorists and refugees will occur. Lack of order doesn't come from not enough western troops but from too much
Dominic Sullivan
My grandpa got home electricity in his village (picrelated) only in 1962.
>It can be destroyed completely by one major economical crisis no, integration as gone too far in the EU for that to happen, everything is completly integrated, we will never go back to economic isolationism. And even if it happned, people don't want war, 3 millions EU citizens live in France, 2 millions french people live in other EU countries, there are international marriages, student exchanges on massive scales. we do not hate each other and we refuse to even see 3 of our soldiers to die in far way countries we dislike, that kind of war will never happen again. And, who would do those wars, young european men are not going to do it, we are way to soy for that
Brayden Powell
Here in South Brazil, I have distant family members that live in Estância Velha, they only got electricity around 1975 if i recall correctly, it was a rural place (now urbanized) near the capital, now imagine the rest of the state. There are many German enclaves (small towns founded by Germans), that not only got electricity in 1980, but it was only for 12 hours per day, and many of these towns only got telephone lines in 2000. There are still many towns living like time stopped, no cellphones, no telephones, nothing, just basic 20th century stuff.
