Every single decent job requires a degree

Are you supposed to bring your degree with you to the interview as proof?

You can do that or bring a transcript. Some places make you attach a copy of your transcript when you apply through their online bullshit. Never seen a case where someone had to get their school to mail one to a boss though.

just get a drivers license then wtf is the problem

I can't afford that shit.

>fell for the trade school meme
>make only 55k/year + bonus
>meanwhile university grads are getting offers to make 80-100k starting at age 23

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get a part time job

I have a Bachelor in Computer Science and I volunteered at a Museum over the summer a few years ago, liked it a lot and convinced me to work there. Now I make 40k a year, dead end job. How the fuck do I get back on track to my autist life? Anyone got any tips? I got my degree from a top 50 school in the country but it was in 2013 and I'm afraid to tell anyone that I worked in a fucking history museum and nothing else. I don't qualify for internships since those are for college students or recent grads.

What about medical imaging?

How am I gonna do that when nowhere wants to hire me?
Besides, etting a part-time job is literally impossible here no matter where you are in the country, all are occupied by underage workers since they are cheaper to employ.

>geography
i've learnt all the geography i need from Jow Forums desu

>foreign languages
serious question why would you get a degree in a foreign language?, just learn it from elsewhere and become fluent that way..
Or do some jobs NEED you to prove you're fluent in a language with a degree? Why not just prove it to them?

every online survey about best countries leads me to believe that Danes can live off part-time 25 hr per week coffee barista work and feel "hygge" in such a comfy life. Why don't you do that

just put out a bunch of applications at low level job minimum wage jobs, youll probably get lucky eventually. maybe lie a bit to increase chances of getting hired. maybe just beg for money on the street until you have enough money.

>architecture

remove this and its a solid list

Nursing here pays very well and only stands to become more in demand as populations age.. My Dad is an Emergency nurse and gets paid about 110,000 a year working three night shifts a week.

Only degrees that don't yield high return for time spent are scams that only exist to nurture intellectuals that perpertuate state machine to exist for sole purpose of getting prestige position and work matching their degree and specialty with public funded programs and policies which they fight for by labeling every cause that supports their limited career options as "humanitarian" or "social justice" cause that requires immediate attention. In short, universities mostly produce bitter political agents agitating for constant expansion of public sector for their own personal gain. It's thus producing extortion mafia business as its common end result and needs to end and all humanist professors tried for treason, organized crime and conspiracy.

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if you notice it isnt just geography you can learn on Jow Forums but pretty much all those subjects

>geography
>anthropology
>art history
>history
>criminology
>film
>political science
>communications
>philosophy
>psychology
>english
>____ studies
>pre-______
>foreign languages
>physics
>most theoretical-based sciences, unless at a PhD level
>biology
>creative arts

can be learned on the internet except for maybe physics , now do you see a trend?

>serious question why would you get a degree in a foreign language?
Helps if you want to be a professional translator/interpreter. They also take classes in professional use of the language and culture related courses.

>getting into debt so you can work
you know this used to be called 'indentured servitude' - a soft form of slavery

I don't know at what point Americans will ever stop bending over for the government. I don't think they ever will. I see people now living out of their cars. If that's not enough to riot over, I don't know what is.

The problem with the internet is an abundance of information. Most people wouldn't have any way to recognize a reliable source on specific subjects without a base layer.

Im guessing its like here where theres shit tons lf competition for those kind of jobs, an age scaling minimum wage so high schoolers and more like 10-15 hours a week if you do get it. Still if you put out enough resumes you'll eventually get lucky like i did because that's basically all it is since if you arent disabled you can do the job

English gets tons of jobs, they're just the kinds of jobs that only an English student would actually want to do like editor, publisher, copywriter and content writer among others.

People who say there are no jobs for English majors are just parroting what they've heard others saying.

Yes, you can learn pretty much (most) things from just the Net alone.

But officially anyway, you do need some sort of certificate or something to confirm you actually know this stuff. For jobs and stuff.

Which is the only reason why College/University is still relevant..

Fuck off, you live in Denmark and probably went to college for free and got paid to live by the government the entire time.
I feel absolutely no sympathy when Scandis who live life on the absolute easiest mode possible complain about stuff.

Wrong flag. Supposed to be a leaf

>CS you'll be stuck being a code monkey
>you'll be stuck sitting on your ass all day writing code, browsing web and making 100k a year
totally "stuck" here, mate lmao

Trade school seems like the good idea early on because you're working right away with little debt, but after awhile your body breaks down by 35 and you're maxed out at 50-60k a year and everyone with a degree is starting at 50k but in a cozy office not sacrificing their body.

Trade school is a meme for impatient people who don't want to do homework for 4-5 years or use their brain so they use their body for 1 year instead for the quick salary.

Jow Forums was wrong about nearly everything, except jews. And even then they hate jews only because memes, not out of wisdom.
Besides, the true redpill is knowing that networking is worth more than anything.

you seem obsessed with your haskel mate. you mention it all the time, learn it already and be the coolest dude in your rayon.

the intern from my work from Finland on my facebook had to be blocked by all of us because she was complaining she can't pay rent as a 24 year old just entering the work place. Imagine this is a girl going for a free phd while we have to shell out 200k for it.

What "easiest" mode? Nothing is free. Free education means higher taxes, i.e. lower take home income.

>>Every single decent job requires a degree
Begome chef

I didn't go to university because I knew I wouldn't manage 4 years of being lonely while everyone else was having sex. Now my future is being stuck in shit jobs. I don't know what's worse.

Recognizing reliable sources is not a problem at all. Google actually does a pretty god job at that. I think maintaining good discipline and being super organized and self motivated is the hardest apart. Other than that, you can find absolutely everything: choose a major, find a curriculum/syllabus complete with the list of text books/approximate study program at any uni website/download text books from libgen/study/watch youtube/ask questions on stackoverflow/stackexchange/whatever. The hardest part, like I said, is to stick to the schedule and force yourself to do actual tests, not just skim through the text books while staying in your comfort zone.

well i did manage to endure exactly that. rented an appt all to myself and left home every friday the minute the last class ended.

But what if I'm too dumb for college?

>biology
How the hell is it difficult to find jobs with a biology degree?

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Nothing wrong with that. College is not for everyone. The key is t o recognize that and make the decision early on instead of trying and failing and wasting time.

>being a wagecuck
the biggest meme is going to the university just for a job

so what do you do with your life?

Just draw furry porn and plagiarize books on Amazon

You'll drown in $$$

i think he separated it from the applied stuff like biochemistry

a job! who needs a fuckin job anyways!?

never been to Jow Forums cos I'm not a dumbass

ask the abos my friendly roo.

>engineering
This isn't the 1950's anymore, gramps. Every single god damn dudebro normie guy who doesn't know what he wants to do in life goes into engineering nowadays. It's extremely oversaturated and, as elsewhere, it's 100% about connections if you want to actually get a job.

>>When did you realize that Jow Forums was indeed wrong about University being a Jewish scam?
A job is a jewish scam too

why would someone who doesn't know what to do with his life would choose one of the hardest majors, not some meme stuff.

That's right bitch, stay poorfag
lmao Haskell hasn't been relevant for anything in the industry since the 90s

>engineering
>hard
Normalfag detected

Because they're idiots. Engineering undergrad degrees have relatively high dropout rates for that very reason. But even with the high dropout, there's still a huge oversaturation of graduates.

He didn't say "hard", are you blind?

just be honest. there's no shame in choosing to work at a museum if you enjoyed it. let them know you're looking for a career change. if that doesn't work, get fresh experience with open source projects, and build a portfolio.

Yeah but when I get older I'm doomed

I feel like I should just kill myself before it gets worse

I guess Jow Forums is pretty harmful on brainlets who are very impressionable. It's sad that young people are browsing there without the ability to filter out the bullshit

>there's no shame in choosing to work at a museum if you enjoyed it
Unfortunately, there is as far as the HR bots are concerned.

just get through the bot filters by copy pasting the job posting into into your resume in white, size 1 font.

Haskell has never been relevant as a tool to do real work. It's always been some kind of status thing to earn the bragging rights on reddit-like boards among other wannabees who spend their time arguing about languages instead of actually doing shit. I've seen a funny stat of Haskell being one of the top languages people google as opposed to being on the list of the most popular languages on that software is written in, say, on github. Not even close.

Why do you think you are doomed? Being the working class is doomed? Most people around the world work blue collar jobs. And you are in Spain, not Venezuela.

I'm too dumb for stem so uni is a scam anyway.
If I try stem I'll just fail calculus over and over (been there done that) and now that I'm studying linguistics I'll just be poor forever anyway. At least uni is free.

>And you are in Spain, not Venezuela.
Give it another decade and they won't be so different.

See, this is what you get with le everybody must have a degree meme in an overpopulated world with growing automation. Not only everything gets saturated, requisites (meme masters, unnecessary PhDs with meme thesis, etc) go to the roof

This was an obvious consecuence that nobody paid attention (or intentionally let it happen because $$$). The incoming problem was alerady foreseeable in the 90s imo. Make people push it to the limit, compete with candidates from other countries and at slave tier conditions and you get the cake. There are countries where you have a lot of people with masters, PhDs, etc still not in the workforce at 30 yo and who are creating a timebomb when they enter in the job market as they'll be overcertified and will make the situation worse

So don't feel bad, shit's gonna be even worse in the next decade

How hard is calculus in Brazil? Here it is a dumbed down version of analysis that is suited for engineering majors. It is not hard at all, basically plug and chug.

He said "hardest" if you read. No degree is "hardest" nor hard if you study or are fit for it

hardest != hard, you absolute negrito

i work in a big tech hub, and a ton of jobs here at places like facebook and google largely serve to give patterns for the AI to pick up on. Most of those jobs are going to be blitzed years down the road. It's going to be a big problem for this city since they constitute so much of our workforce.

I don't know, I think it's the same as over there? We used James Stewart's textbooks.
The issue is with me, I just can't get it into my skull.

>tfw english major

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Hardest doesn't mean hard though, the hardest level in an easy game is still easy, just harder than all the others.

Brazil is already like that. People do Law degrees here just to get slighty more chances at the public tests for bureaucratic jobs.

some of the HR bots are in fact human

so what's gonna happen when everything is automated and saturated? cars drive themselves, computers write software, 5th gen programming languages will just have one big button "generate all code and create an app", etc.

yes Stewart, same book actually, wow.

this is a bit vague, do you mean code monkey positions or what patterns?

>so what's gonna happen when everything is automated and saturated? cars drive themselves, computers write software, 5th gen programming languages will just have one big button "generate all code and create an app", etc.
Hopefully UBI but it could be grim.

>tfw almost fell for the international studies meme, but I changed my mind at the last moment
thank fuck

>this is a bit vague, do you mean code monkey positions or what patterns?
i mean a huge variety of tasks ranging from entry level content moderation to fraud analysis.

kek, very convincing

>someone taking his native language as their major
This is really dumb.

'literature' would probably be more accurate. we just call that 'english' here for whatever reason.

move to America

Also I'd add that we live in a degree obsessed world. There's a massive pressure to get degree after degree and certification and certification for no reason even if you don't really need it

What's the purpose of having master, PhD, etc for a shitty company job when I live in fucking Patagonia where there's barely graduated people? There's a constant advertising and pushing because $$$

Also I've heard that some places are reverting and taking people more due to experience rather than degree unless a requisite. I can imagine future generations going less and less to university if shit continues this way

I've just given up on all ambition and I'm doing my best to gradually earn the same for less hours. If I can end up working 3 days a week and having enough for my lifestyle then I'll be very content

Technology wise, I think knowing how shit works under the hood will give you a huge edge in the future! I mean imagine the generation that never worked on a PC and they don't even know what's inside it and they only know how to use their phones and are horrified at an idea of a command line interface or something even more "horrible" like Linux.

I've seen this to some extend when people cannot find a job they tend to continue their education and get another unnecessary degree.

livin

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Fuck u no way what state Alaska

I don't know about unnecessary, and people are very quick to blame external factors instead of themselves. I have a degree in economics and I blame myself entirely for not getting a job. It's pretty simple, any adviser at a university will tell you to use your time effectively, e.g network with people and give yourself as much credibility as possible. Now if you are someone with perfect grades you will find a job in such a field, but for the average person and particularly for those with below average grades you shouldn't expect to find a job because you have a degree. A lot of degrees that are not overtly technical by nature, requires you to be suited for a work environment from both a knowledge perspective and social perspective. So if you can't network with people, don't take internships and just 'get your degree', expecting you to fit into a work environment is just delusional. I'm doing a second degree in electrical engineering now and having this perspective on how you should spend your time it really changes things a lot. I work and network with people all the time, I do internships and I have made sure that I am as ready as I can be prior to finishing rather than expecting a diploma to hold my hand.

In Spain people used to just get a bachellors (4-5 years and the next step was the PhD for academic purposes. There were post graduate diplomas and such but the bachellor was enough

After the Bologna process in 99 or 2000 I don't remember, master degrees were instaurated as mandatory for some professions. People who already had a career formed (and a lot already in their 40s-50s) were forced to go back and get a masters or get stuck just because "lol you need a masters now". As such, private universities started proliferating more and more making a ponzi scheme with masters

Today there are people with 2 or 3 masters in Spain and don't get a job either due to saturation or because they are demanded even more despite no real need. A small but growing trend in some spanish companies is hiring people outta their skills instead of the degree (in non regulated stuff like IT). I know a lot of people there who are extremely frustrated because they studied a lot, inverted money, time, etc and now don't get a single job or a simple blue collar job gets more money than them

It is though
code.fb.com/security/fighting-spam-with-haskell/

Target also uses it for their warehouse logistics, it's also a common choice for writing compilers for inhouse languages.

I'm 23 and got my degree in computer science but after some interviews i only managed to get an internship and was too autistic for the workplace. I've been NEET for 2 years. Now my dreams are like 90% interviews of me being giga-chad, but id fuck up again in real life

That sounds a lot like what happens here. It is very hard to even land an internship job. You have to go to job fairs at your school as early as your freshman year! Just applying online is not as efficient. So, yes if you don't have good social skills and don't interview well and didn't have internships it will be very hard to get the first job no matter what your GPA is. Well maybe if you graduated from a really good school, I dunno.

> hiring people outta their skills instead of the degree (in non regulated stuff like IT)
Here there is something called a coding bootcamp. It is for people with non-CS or even non-STEM diplomas who want to change their careers or couldn't find a CS job. It seems to be gaining popularity.

Sure, there must be something, but it is still a niche language. But warehouse logistics? Really. Sounds like that just needs a LAMP :)

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