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lol we’ve got no legal obligation to do that tho.
i hope it doesn’t come to that, that would ruin relations irreparably :(
>ur the EU
>"no renegotiation"
>"you must pay your debts"
>Britain does not reply, takes the British Power Stance™
what do?
>lol we’ve got no legal obligation to do that tho.
Try then to deal with anyone in the world once the word goes out that you don't respect earlier pledges.
I guess other countries will just line up with the juicy FTAs offers.
no, we’re paying the money under the condition that we get a deal - such was always the case. no deal no money. we’d be breaking no pledge in doing so.
Ironically, May had the better fighting stance, followed by Cameron.
You pledged it while the UE budget was planned.
>>Try then to deal with anyone in the world once the word goes out that you don't respect earlier pledges.
The ball's in the EU's court now. We've given them something that's reasonable that we will agree to, and now they're being pissy about it.
OP I order you to send me 39 million pound via paypal
*slaps your banks ass*
'no'
Serious question, but are there any significant amount of people still left in Britain who support the Brexit?
Please tell me the retards are just a fringe element.
you've said you want "adjustments", havent said what those adjustments would be.
and either way, we spent years making an agreement and it's non-renegotiable. the EU has said that clearly.
you're asking for something that isn't on the table, and being pissy about it.
I support brexit, just not no deal.
i mean how retarded chavs can be
>we can just walk out and EU gives what we want!
reality: no lol
>we dont have to pay after we decided to quit!
reality: no lol
>britain can do agreements! free trade!
reality: no lol
>britain will only pay if we get deal we want!
reality:
the list goes on and on and on, if the EU said the sky is blue angl*ids will say its red and it stays blue
Imagine the stupidity behind this post
It's not an agreement if one party doesn't agree to it.
I bet you think we voted to leave because we're racist or something.
>Try then to deal with anyone in the world once the word goes out that you don't respect earlier pledges.
Didn't you pledge to take in Syrian refugees? You haven't taken any and your streets are full of xenophobic racist retards protesting about Muslim immigration even though you have no significant Muslim population.
you did agree to it, it's May's responsibility to make it pass, not ours
May agreed to it, Parliament didn't. She's not the Queen, lad.
Forcing a deal on the PM at the last minute is not an agreement. There's no agreement at all if it isn't agreed to by parliament. It's a shitty deal that no sane person would vote for, and it's pushing us towards no deal purely because it's so shit.
Basically the EU is making this much more of a problem than it needs to be just to be spiteful, and businesses around Europe are going to suffer as a result.
They should respond by placing a tariff on brussel sprouts.
The EU won’t negotiate because they want to force the UK into extending Article 50, as they know the UK still isn’t prepared for a no deal.
Pledged to pay it, as EU members. If we are no longer EU members, we have therefore no obligation.
>what do?
T-pose to establish dominance.
>the fringe element won the referendum
Ok m8.
It doesn't make sense in a no deal outcome (and it seems we're heading that way)
Britain can do w/e they want at the cost of losing free access to trade freely within EU's market.
pathetic how relations between the uk and rest of europe has been destroyed over some drunk boomers in brussels who wanna show how tough they are
We can't extend it though. An extension wouldn't get through parliament. An amendment to support that failed yesterday.
>Forcing a deal on the PM at the last minute is not an agreement.
you were the ones to wait to the last minute, lad
I thought they would fill the void of ignorance during this shit show.
If the referendum happened again, I can't imagine the leave campaign winning again.
Juncker is an arrogant lush who seems to think fucking over the UK out of spite should be his legacy. Before Brexit I was indifferent towards the EU, now I really hate them.
That's probably exactly what he thinks. His limp wrist ass.
>its brussels fault, not the brits voting to leave the union
nice logic
if the EU lets britain get full access without having to deal with all those pesky slavs coming in then denmark would do it too
we can't be having that now can we
It's going to be hilarious when the EU federalizes and becomes an absolute economic superpower while Britain's economy will go down the tube.
exactly, they don't realise most 'anti-eu' people aren't against the eu, but how it is run.
why do you think the brits voted to leave the union in the first place? clearly something was mismanaged and they said stop.
ah i wish we could be having that
Glad they leave the EU and move to America. Everyone happy.
I bet you can't imagine Trump winning in 2020 either idiot
Just because you don't have the mental capacity to imagine something doesn't mean it can't or didn't happen.
Did we? Never heard about a pledge being made.
For the record, I actually supported letting at least a token number in. Actual refugees from Syria, not Afghans or Pakis pretending to be Syrians.
Brits voted leave because they wanted to protest against their own government.
if the second biggest economy in Europe couldn't have it there's no way in hell Denmark could do it
but surely you can understand EU's position, they can't budge on certain parts with the UK even though some kind of deal with them would be economically better for everyone
everyone's just looking out for themselves, no hard feelings
While that's obviously a factor, it wasn't the only one.
>Serious question, but are there any significant amount of people still left in Britain who support the Brexit?
It's still roughly a 50/50 split, though perhaps slightly more in favour of remain than leave now
it was mostly an immigration issue wasn't it?
2 many poles m8
>Did we? Never heard about a pledge being made.
One of your leaders did make a promise to take in a few thousands.
>Actual refugees from Syria, not Afghans or Pakis pretending to be Syrians.
You realize it's not just Syrians that have a legitimate claim to asylum, right?.
>One of your leaders did make a promise to take in a few thousands.
Which one and was it an official pledge on behalf of the state?
>You realize it's not just Syrians that have a legitimate claim to asylum, right?.
Perhaps, but the whole shitshow was about actual Syrian refugees and scores of economic migrants from a myriad of places bandwagoning in. There were even cases of actual Subsaharan Blacks claiming to be Syrians.
those boomers are sent by ppl you elected lol, whats pathetic is pretending the EU is an organisation of some 3rd party entity straight from hell while 27governments are behind it
relations with britain was always shit, they always wanted to be special snowflakes meaning only rules they like apply to them, thats not how anything works
and thats why they voted leave because they aint speshul little cunts anymore
No, it was because Britain wanted to screw us all over by wanting a FTA deal and at the same time not wanting to conform to our common rules. In other words, Brits could be importing literal shit from some place and then reexporting it to us cashing in the price difference between those products and their equivalents from Europe, made using our strict quality rules.
That too. The Poles that come here almost exclusively take up low-skilled work so they dispropotionately affect native low-income workers, who are already living on the edge.
The MPs who never see the consequence of this because they live in rich areas in London and Surrey were completely blindsided when the vote to leave came back, because they didn't even know there was a problem.
I feel like I have to point out that none of this a slight against the Poles (or other Eastern Euroes), it's not their fault. They're just taking advantage of the situation to make some money for themselves and thir families, nothing wrong with that.
I wouldn't be so forgiving to the Poles, lol. Let's be honest here, we didn't send our best and brightest in large part. Rather, our underclasses went there in disproportional numbers. These people were very used to take advantage of any available opportunity.
>But in the run-up to the vote on EU membership, then-prime minister David Cameron instructed the civil service not to plan for Leave vote
>David Cameron told civil servants they could not talk to Leave campaigners in advance of the Brexit vote about their plans
Blindsided, borderline criminal IMO.
it's amusing to me because really 99% of the shit that brits moan about is the direct fault of the elites in westminster
Endless austerity cutting public services and stagnating wages
Not putting immigration blocks of 7 years in 2004 to block the huge influx of poor EE workers (germany and austria did this btw)
Financialisation and London centrism bringing living standards down for the average Brit
Not deporting immigrant EU who don't work and get on the dole (you have perfect legal rights to do this)
Leaving the EU solves the EU immigration issue at least but the core problem, your self serving government, isn't fixed. Hell this whole thing started as Cameron's bet and playing party politics. And now all the top officials now what a shitshow Brexit is so they pushed that robot to do it and take the blame when it all goes to shit. Meanwhile they peddled a bunch of lies about how easy this is going to be.
The frustration of your people needs to be thrown at those fucks in westminster IMO
>they're being pissy about it.
Mate you voted to get out because you didn't get special treatment on top of your special treatment
it's difficult for a country and people that have been subjugated by foreign powers repeatedly throughout history to understand, brits don't want some german telling them what to do
well once brexit's over they won't have anyone else to blame this time. Maybe the Parliament will become as robust as it used to be. I wonder if it will though, used to be a good system because it had generally good people in it. They're all dead now.
>Britain opts out of some monumentally retarded policy like the Euro or Schengen
>UR A SPESHUL SNOWFLAKE
Nobody claims it because of that, you dumb nigger. We're claiming that because Britain already had opt-outs for almost everything and it STILL thinks it can get a better deal. What Leave expects is for Britain to leave but the EU to pretend it didn't. So Britain gets all the benefits of membership with none of the obligations. that's delusional.
>We're claiming that because Britain already had opt-outs for almost everything
Such as?
No deal woot. Fuck em
come and take it
we're brushing our hair
molon labe
hopefully this keeps going and eventually tears the eu apart
Do you wish everyone was shit like you
Such as Euro opt-out, civil law harmonisation opt-out and so on. Plus you got the (in)famous British rebate.
the eu needs to die the mexican is right
Schengen
Euro
Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union
Area of freedom, security and justice
Would you hire a brit to clean your toilet?
We know you live in misery. But why do you wish it upon others?
>STILL thinks it can get a better deal
if they thought they could get an acceptable deal while in the EU they wouldn't leave
I will make deals with the UK
Leaving the EU and getting some kind of free trade deal, is the better deal. That seems to be the only "benefit" of membership anyone in the UK is interested in. Everything else they want to withdraw from.
You voted to leave to match our retardation levels after we elected Trump
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That's four opt-outs for four different policies, how is that even remotely the same as 'opt-outs for everything'.
If we actually did have opt-outs for everything, like specifically the Right to Work policy, there wouldn't be an issue and we wouldn't be leaving.
Good luck dealing with a country that has a track record of reneging in pledges. I am sure it will turn out great to you.
if i were european i would be in favor of the eu
what happens is that i have been thinking of the future and realice that europes selfdestruction will hurt the US and thus humankind will win
I think an Island nation having it's entire fishing fleet dicked all over is a pretty big obligation. You ever sen how expensive seafood is here? On our giant Island
The fringe element elected Trump. Them and the Russians. I bet they manipulated you as well.
Now France is chimping out thanks to the facebook shills from Russia.
This guy is a clown. Nickname: accursed raccoon.
UK will join us in the trans pacific partnership free trade area since all their previously important trading partners they dropped to join the EU are members
Love you Chile. Would be honoured sir.
Now THIS is podracing
yeah, also the the UK ex colonies will support them too, USA alone is more relevant than europe
>humankind outside of the us and eu
lmao. which humankind?
Law and Justice is beautiful.
obviously everyone but you
and thats questionable since the avarage us citizen is a slave
>Didn't you pledge to take in Syrian refugees?
No, we didn't.
>You haven't taken any and your streets are full of xenophobic racist retards protesting about Muslim immigration even though you have no significant Muslim population.
I think you have issues with recognizing causes and consequences.
>For the record, I actually supported letting at least a token number in.
Then you were wrong, weren't you? Look at the situation now, after the awkward stalemate the whole thing went silent and in the end Brussels did nothing, so that "token" would be for nothing, and additonally it would create a dangerous precedence. For once we were right to be stubborn.
im ok with that if the 39 bil is paid to israel
>how is that even remotely the same as 'opt-outs for everything'.
Ever heard of exaggeration, you autist? Of course the UK doesn't literally opt-out of everything. If it did, then it simply wouldn't be part of the EU.
>if they thought they could get an acceptable deal while in the EU they wouldn't leave
Oh boy, it's like you haven't followed the news for the past two years or anything.
That's only becoming a problem precisely because of the context of Brexit. Now British ships can't unconditionally enter EU waters and vice versa. Britain may "win" in that its own waters are uncontested, but it also "loses" in access to other waters.
Didn't Poland pledge to join the Euro as well as take refugees?
Shut up white boi
The father of Jow Forums generals and /brit/
>Ever heard of exaggeration, you autist? Of course the UK doesn't literally opt-out of everything
So in a conversation where we're talking about why people made a certain decision, you're just being facetious and talking shit? Okay, thanks for the input. Enlightening.
>Then you were wrong, weren't you?
I believe I wasn't. Taking in a token number (50-60) and placing them in one of already existing facilities for refugees wouldn't do any harm and would deflect all the flak Poland is receiving today.