>the USA is breaking record coldness
>therefore global warming actually exists!
Why does this meme persist? We get meme conventions because people want US companies to be overtaken by China by placing unneeded restrictions
The USA is breaking record coldness
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Where's my global cooing here on the west coast? It's been low 70's the whole week, stop hogging all the cold
And another retard that doesn't know how global warming works beyond parroting trump's tweets
First of all weather and climate are different things
Second of all climate influences weather in complex patterns, the study of which is called meteorology
Third and finally, the people who study how climate effects weather have come to a consensus that a warming climate has effected global weather patterns in a manner that moved cold air away from the poles
>arctic winds reach the US
>totally not our fault
Part of the climate change was the increase of weather extremes
I guess everyone's forgotten the Little Ice Age which long predates the Model T.
>it’s cold today
>global warming is fake!
obscenely american post
And Al Gore's Cayman Islands bank account just keeps on expanding in size.
>earth is 4.543 billion years
>earth has been a desert
>earth has been a firey pit of hell
>earth has been a desolate iced hole
>somehow it is us that is to blame for the changes now
>because earth is not frozen i how it was for 100 years between 1900-2000 because that is how earth should always be
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Explain ocean acidification then brainlet
I guess he's not too worried about sea levels rising and washing away his holdings there.
another sciencefag who doesn't understand how global warming works beyond neil degrasse tyson's tweets
More ice melted this year by far, so meteorogists predicted record colds for this year, everywhere
And you still deny global warming? America really drank too much kool aid. This is a result of political bias in media.
This is why political neutrality in media is a good thing.
bait post bait thread
OP hasn't even contributed to the thread he's rubbing his fat hands together and cackling.
Creatures beyond our comprehension live in the oceans and have been slowly shitting out acidic farts
Don't think anyone is arguing there isn't a natural climate cycle, more that the level of warming that's occurred since the Industrial Revolution absolutely isn't natural. And it just so happens that the warming coincides with the release of a ton of greenhouse gasses.
This shit is gradual. It's not normal for the earth to heat up a whole Celsius degree in less than 200 years.
It's sad to know that there are people who unironically think that man isn't the cause for accelerated global warming. Same with anti-vaxxers and flat-earthers.
This has to be the slapstick parody timeline.
I wonder what creatures of the deep could be responsible for all that gas...
It'a almost as if we don't have accurate, reliable climate records before the Industrial Revolution. Amazing, isn't it?
Ice core samples
>bsolutely isn't natural.
what is it then, alien. how can anything that happens on earth not be natural? are we not part of nature?
you only believe it because a bunch of elites pounded it into your head your whole life
don't pretend you believe it because your own smart brain figured it out and proved it
There are many more ways to track climate history.
Actually not even now since only a relatively small part of the globe has a decent amount of data for it.
Neil DeGrasse Tyson is an astrophysicist, not a climatologist. Try again retard
What happens if have a blackout?
Americans really are very special in how unbelievably stupid they are.
You consider that in Cretaceous times it was near-tropical planet-wide for many millions of years. In fact there was no glaciation at the poles between the Triassic and the Pleistocene, close to 200 million years. Oh well, probably global warming caused by dinosaur farts or something.
what does that have to do with anything faggot. he's done a lot to promote climate change awareness
"Trump is a president, not a climatologist. try again retard."
if you're going to argue something, you might want to use an argument that isn't as valid against you as it is for you, you silly mouthbreather.
>It took 100,000 years for the earth to naturally heat the same is has in 100 today with human carbon emissions, same thing and surely everything will balance out 1000x faster than normal to compensate
>check the actual temperature in chicago
>28c
pffft I thought you guys were actually having some weird ass arctic apocalypse over there
>Haha look I am trying to dredge up epic celsius vs fahrenheit shitposts!
>Why does this meme persist?
It's a good excuse to limit everything.
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what
they must be joking, it cant be that cold in murica
+4C today and about to rain. By Sunday it will be +13C and dry.
Wind chill. The actual temperature is something like -10 to -15F.
Or, unlike Americans, he went to a school that actually teaches shit beyond common core math and creationism. He also probably stayed in past 10th grade.
nah, I was just too lazy to convert it but for you
>-18.4 degrees Fahrenheit
it can't be used again me because I've not taken a stance. i accept that anything scientists say could be a formulation, including their conclusions and their methods
>-10 to -15F.
oh, that's ok then
>i'm so smart my school told me so
fuck off piece of shit
>It took 100,000 years for the earth to naturally heat the same is has in 100 today
Well we had the coldest New Year since 1917 and the coldest Thanksgiving since 1901 or something so you tell me.
Typical drop out response.
i graduated. baselessly projecting the image of a loser onto anonymous people is underage tier
>somehow it is us that is to blame for the changes now
We are affecting it. A lot of previous changes happened because of the living things as well.
>that is how earth should always be
That is how it should be for us. Environmentalism isn't about 'saving the planet' for the planet itself but keeping it comfortable for the people.
but thats not doable. you can't freeze time like that and always live in 1950-1999. Life changes and we should prepare for that and change our lives around that, not try our best to hold on to it.
A fat fuck can be hungry and feeling starved one afternoon - that doesn't mean he's not a fat fuck.
I guess it lies in the nature of the topic: climate and weather is something that everyone is physically in contact with, hence everyone feels like they can have an educated opinion on the related scientific fields and aspects of them. If the topic would be quantum electrodynamics, there'd be merely shrugs - despite the fact that most people know exactly the same about QED as they know about climate science of meteorology, which is absolutely fuck all.
>you can't freeze time
It's not about freezing time, it's about keeping things under control, as we want them to be.
why are you acting like youre standing on some moral high ground if all you do is shitpost? wanna like, fuck off or something?
*sip*
ahhh now -99 that was a winter!
colonies were a mistake
>i accept that anything scientists say could be a formulation, including their conclusions and their methods
The good thing about the science is that it's all about proving things. Just read the papers and analyze it.
Ever think that human intervention causes more harm than good
At what temperature does vodka freeze?
The whole idea is to limit those interventions.
>WE NEED TO CONTROL THE WEATHER OR ELSE WE WILL ALL DIE BECAUSE IT IS DIFFERENT
If humans are known for one thing it's our inability to adapt
>I as an innocent bystander am simply proclaiming that one side simply mustn't be true because 97% of scientists in that field claim that it's true
We are known for the ability to adapt our environment for our needs.
my point is only that you shouldn't believe what you're told because it might just be a formulation by the government trying to control their sheep
What else do you believe then?
The manic ramblings of Alex Jonex and Rush Limbough?
>Demonstrates he has no fucking idea what he's talking about
>Called out
>no u
The absolute state of conservashits
the point is about pretty clear that heat distribution unbalance you uneducated murrrrrican
earth gets different amount of heat from sun each by parts and so heat is supposed to be balanced out via natural phenomena with air and water but human factor is barring this currently so we are observing extreme heat and extreme cold in earth and also disappear of spring and fall
just imagine what is happening on moon's day and night, summer and winter since moon has no air no water, heat cannot be distributed. therefore it observes extremely hot day and extremely hot cold and same goes for winter and summer.
the point is earth is becoming like moon because human activities you fucking ignorants murrrrrrcan
is the concept of not believing everything you're told so hard to understand? why do you brainless shits always have to project some "dumb conservative" onto everyone
imagine being so cucked that even on the internet you dont dare to hold an opinion/stance over anything. youre embarrassing yourself.
>b-b-b-but i didnt say anything
thats the problem, youre being less than useless.
>it's a little bit colder than it typically is around this time
>every media outlet and news station acts like this is the sign of the apocalypse
Getting real tired of this bullshit
You're all wrong, this is the fimbul winter, finally come to bury all of mankind's ugliness and sins under thousands of tons of ice and snow.
One more day before it warms up again. Not too bad considering last year we had two weeks of unbroken Arctic cold.
if you guys deny what scientists say so much why dont you just tell people you believe in magic or 'the force'? At least have some fun with it
my stance is that global warming might be real but if it is it's too late to stop without extreme measures to prevent civilizations across the world to stop producing gasses. furthermore the climate patterns of earth could be unimaginably complex. my approach to climate change is "don't care." i thought it would be a more interesting input to suggest to some of you that even things you think are set in stone truth might just be lies to control your behavior but it looks like you'd rather i be the 5 billionth person to say "global warming is real durrrrr"
They said in the 70s we were heading to a new Ice Age because pollution was going to blot out the Sun's rays.
It's not that rational people believe everything experts say, dumb people like you just dismiss everything experts say in favor of your own uneducated opinion.
I myself have no intrinsical knowledge of climate and weather and I assume neither do you. Scientifically sound weather measurement started in 1781 in Bavaria I think and meteorologists use basically the same methods now as they did back then, only calculated by computer simulations for forecasts. Since most people are able to understand the simple greenhouse theory, most people will leave it to actual experts to figure out why our weather seems to become more extreme every year.
im not trying to get you to say anything, im just saying that if you want to interject yourself into the conversation, you should have something to add to it. but since "you dont care" and you refuse to take any stance on the subject, then why the hell do you insist on being included in the conversation?
>b-b-b-but i didnt say anything
>b-b-b-but i dont have an opinion
>b-b-b-but i dont care
youre just self-proclaiming moral high ground with shitposting. less than meaningless.
>Since most people are able to understand the simple greenhouse theory, most people will leave it to actual experts to figure out why our weather seems to become more extreme every year.
It really doesn't though, it's just people have very short memories and always assume the current year has the most weird/extreme weather ever because they forget whatever happened two years ago. So it's easy for Al Gore and his crew to connive people because they can't remember the weather from 5 years ago, let alone stuff like the record cold late 70s winters in North America.
It works on the same principle as people declaring that today's music is the worst ever, today's teenagers are the most degenerate ever, and so forth. Because humans have a natural inclination to forget all the ills of the past.
Government intervention is the problem.
>actual environmental problems are something made up so a former politician can con money out of american corporations
>climate change was made up by the chinese to make american companies less competitive
And you're talking about getting indoctrinated by experts, you fucknugget got indoctrinated by actual retards.
Don't bother replying, you're just another dumb retard making your other countrymen look mentally retarded.
Can burger cardboard houses withstand this, hmm?
American cardboard houses, as shitty as they are, are better than 95% of russian homes.
i just told you my stance nerd. your first post is just that you need to believe in global warming or you're flat earther tier. talk about meaningless high ground shitposting. "don't care" means i'm not going to allow the consensus to affect my behavior and that i will question the validity of any conclusions they make and their motives. it doesn't mean i take no side because i'm some retard coward. in fact what i've said is 100x as controversial as your stance (the default)
Showing a picture of 30's barrack in Hujevo-Kukujevo won't do btw
Your argument was
>lol u just believe it cuz elites say so
Which instantly disqualifies you from any sort of logical discussion. Give it a rest.
>Wind-chill
What a fucking meme. I thought you guys were having some brutal ambient temps but this is weak shit.
>>lol u just believe it cuz elites say so
which is the truth. like you said none of us has intrinsic knowledge of climate change, but i did not deny it "just because elites said so" like you said. you are relying on the conclusions they've told you.
>most people will leave it to actual experts to figure out why our weather seems to become more extreme every year.
no one ever did that until experts told them that that was occurring
Don't get butthurt from bad jokes
>german humour
ZOG american government controls the weather so they can discredit researchers and give their shit ass companies an advantage because they failed competing on the free market
terrible nation
bad people, very bad people
I call it the "disappeal to authority - fallacy"
I get it - it is funny because people associate Austria with Germany. We speak the same language after all!
It's a good thing. The homeless should freeze to death.
Is there a word for this, some kind of fallacy must exist to describe when people do this?
It's a strawman fallacy.
what???
-60??
I can't live under 10C.
Ice age is coming.
That takes into account windchill. It's actually around -15c.
Still surprised people are even bothering to respond to that user when his entire stance is "be against the consensus because a lot of people agreeing that something is correct means that it still can be incorrect." Pretty blatant shitposting, and has occurred in previous global warming threads.
>the USA is breaking record coldness
>therefore global warming actually exists!
Why does this meme persist? We get meme conventions because people want US companies to be overtaken by China by placing unneeded restrictions
you're saying i take the opposite stance of the elites. that's a strawman.
Nope, you're now using the strawman here. I'm not saying you take the opposite stance of experts, you're saying you shouldn't trust experts because they're experts.
As for your originally used fallacy, read here:
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Is this one of omen of pole shift?
Homes built after 1960 here all have insulation and central heating, so yes.
I've seen light from a film projector trapped by carbodioxide gas. That is literally what is happening to the planet, except it's not only carbodioxide.
you're interjecting by saying you have no idea about any of it and that makes your point valid. You are absolutely right in not believing everything everyone on the internet is telling you, but what you are doing is ignoring there's terabytes of data showing you global warming exists and saying "no, I didn't do the study so it must be biased".
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