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Learning resources: First and foremost check the Jow Forums Wiki. (feel free to contribute) 4chanint.wikia.com/wiki/The_Official_Jow Forums_How_to_Learn_A_Foreign_Language_Guide_Wiki
Check this pastebin for plenty of language resources as well as some nice image guides. pastebin.com/ACEmVqua
/lang/ is currently short on those image guides, so if you can pitch in to help create one for a given language, don't hesitate to do so!
FAQ: >How do I learn a language? What is the best way to learn one? How should I improve on certain aspects? Get good >When can I move on to a different language? When you reach the C1 nonsubvocalising Herrenvolk stage >What language should I learn? Welsh
>what lang I'm mostly just trying to un-fuck my rolled r's in general, but I'm the esperanto user: en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ŝranko Technically taps are allowed, but there is just something pleasing about r's that roll like butter.
Are you the Welsh-learning user? If so, how are your ll's coming along?
Oliver Rogers
based saxonposting
Nathan Williams
Are there dead langs on italki or similar sites?
Isaiah Johnson
>Are you the Welsh-learning user? If so, how are your ll's coming along? I am a welshboo but I am not learning it yet because that would mean I am learning four languages at the same time and I can't do that
Jaxson Hall
shouldn't the symbol of the saxons be the horse, which were their own symbol instead of the dragon, which was something they took over from the celts?
Andrew Martin
who /polyglot/ here? im a bit of a language buff and already speak 4 languages: swedish, norweigan ,danish and english.
That's the dragon of Wessex, the Saxon/English dragon is white (pic). And no, it wasn't stolen from the 'celts', the venerable Bede comments that the saxons and the Welsh both flew dragons. This is the earliest such reference to dragons of any kind.
Jack Price
>dragon. that's a lindorm. it doesn't have hindlegs
I didn't say it was >stolen but it came to Saxons after the interaction with the island Celts. Meanwhile the founding brothers are literally called Horsa and Hengist, and their symbol was the horse.
Damn. I was worried about doing two at a time. Then again, I'm a lang-let.
Lately I've been playing with the idea of practicing the IPA sounds for no other reason than because it is fun. I might write a bot to crawl a wiktionary dump for all the words, divide them into unique syllables, and then practice making those noises without getting tongue-tied. I figure it would be easy enough to practice in spare moments. However, It's also a massively autistic waste of time.
Jason Reyes
>it's a mythic taxonomy episode
John Richardson
That's the traditional Wessex flag desu as mentioned in medieval writings, although this one is a modern interpretation ofc.
It's not like wyverns/dragons were not used left right and centre in europe for ages
it's more of a mythological story of the founding twins, like romulus and remus and the dioscuri than it is a historical thing I think that's why horse symbols are identified with them, and other similar figures like castor and pollux, not because they actually sported those symbols
N-now is the time to learn
Wyatt Young
horsa and hengist are associated more with kent
Owen White
well I am learning one, trying not to neglect another, and polishing the third one, so it´s not like I am actually learning three at the time in the strictest sense
>IPA based, unironically spares you those 'it's just a soft X sounds' tier explanations
>swedish, norweigan ,danish and english Isn't that just 3?
Carson Perry
Who else here learning an endangered language for heritage purposes?
Austin Brown
You mean 2
Tyler Hernandez
Cool. I speak British, Australian, New Zealandian, American, South African, and Canadian.
Jeremiah Scott
Fun fact: the prince of Wales is Charlie Windsor and he not speak Welsh
Jeremiah Sullivan
My mistake. I was under the impression that Swedish was it's own language. Turns out it's also a Danish dialect like Norwegian.
Dominic Green
Man, ik zweer het, ik ben zo zelfbewust Dat is waarom je me ziet met minst een van me horloges Rollie's en Pasha's maak me helemaal gek Ik kan ze niet eens uitspreken, geef maar die Ver-zeg-zee! En dan geef ik vier honderd uit op dit Gewoon om zo te zijn als "Neger je zou dit niet verschaffen" En ik kan niet eens naar de supermarkt gaan Zonder wat nette ONe's en een shirt met een club Het lijkt dat we in een Amerikaanse Droom leven Maar de mensen hoogst omhoog hebben het slechste zelfvertrouwen De mooiste mensen doen de lelijkste dingen Voor de weg naar geld en diamanten ringen We schijnen omdat ze ons haten, flossen omdat ze ons degraderen We proberen onze viertig acres terug te kopen En voor dat papier, kijk hoe laag we bukken Zelfs als je in een Benz bent ben je maar een neger in een coupé
Logan Morgan
Are those Die Antwoord lyrics?
Brayden Thomas
not even close bby they come from the greatest musician of our time, voice of a generation, a genius, a god a meme a legend
Adrian Myers
Ninja?
Hudson Ross
user come on it's easy to figure out, just google the bits that weren't really translated but fine I'll give you another hint: he is hugely famous and even /mu/ famous
James Diaz
>4 languages: swedish, norweigan ,danish and english. 3/4 of those are dialects
Kayden Gomez
Yolandi?
Christian Mitchell
I mean you could at least try to translate a couple of lines and google for them but this looks like it's going to take all day and I need to go to sleep it's Kanye, my man, Kanye West, the song is "It all falls down", that's the second stanza translated from English into Dutch
Robert Nelson
I thought you guys all hated black people because of your black elf
Noah Reed
You translated it yourself? Gonna do this thanks friend
Elijah Hill
I don't think anyone unironically likes black people
Kevin Garcia
perchè non ch'è filo /lang/ su Jow Forums?
Camden Nelson
Would need to check my heritage for endangered langs first, and there's a lot of Native American langs. I've thought of studying Nahuatl though.
Gabriel Rogers
Applied to the Middlebury summer intensive language program and their scholarship for a Russian course Wish me luck lads
>Native American langs Yep. That's what I'm doing. ᏣᎳᎩ, to be precise.
Elijah Campbell
does anyone think this anti-vaccination thing is a meme? Why is it suddenly a problem? people have always not vaccinated, usually hippies and organic eco moms
Brayden Clark
Heard on the grapevine that the CIA is up to something
Henry Robinson
I think it's not that big of a deal, the media is latching on to this ........ for some reason
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
William Powell
And kids die from measles and the flu and shit. You know about Christian scientists? Back in like 2013 there were a few teenagers who died from the fucking flu because they didn't want to vaccinate or give medicine.
Jason Martin
yeah, all 3 of the Christian scientists. There have always been a couple of weird hippie eco people who don't vaccinate, the Vargs of the world. I don't see why normies are paying so much attention to them all of a sudden
Hunter Johnson
It's always been a problem but the measles outbreak is finally proving 'hey, you hippies are fuckin stupid'
Gabriel Ward
Hippies by definition don't interact with normal society. They live innawoods, homeschool their kids, grow their own food, eat wild squirrels and shit
Henry Myers
i fucking wish
Samuel Hughes
in any case, they don't care if normal society thinks they're weird and wrong. They think we're weird and wrong, they already chose to live differently
it was desu, now I feel a lot more motivated to keep up with this
Josiah Adams
>When can I move on to a different language? >When you reach the C1 nonsubvocalising Herrenvolk stage what if I have no money to make any "official" test? How do I attest that?
it's not really dying I think but it only has a few speakers, and most of them also speak 3 other languages. it's Papiamentu
Lincoln Brooks
>Papiamentu First I've heard of it. Is it a heritage thing?
Easton Cruz
not really, it just sounds like a funny Portuguese and I also have interest in Dutch so I thought it would be a nice transition, considering it is basically a mix of Dutch and Spanish. probably how German is to English I guess? but not nearly as difficult
Isaac Davis
I hope you all had a relaxing Sunday
Hudson Thomas
My English really sucks. These apps + Jow Forums + YouTube + Windows and Android in English are enough to get the intermediate level of the language?
>página 7 First of all, stop wasting your time here or on 55chan. Second of all; none of those apps will help you, the only one that could do it is duo, but still not as useful as it should be and is only useful if you don't know shit about the target language.
Start to live in english. Change the language of all your devices, if you have to do a research on something, do it in english, start to watch tv show in english with sub also in english (only sitcoms cause there is a lot of talking), search for the mos 1000 words and find them in a context (always in a context) to put in some spaced repetition system like anki, find some simple text for kids with audio, read while listening, do ir over and over again. 50x a day for 3 days in a row the same text...
by doing these things you will reach intermediate level within 6 months
Who wants to read about aphids? I drew and wrote it myself
> Ameisen und Blattläuse leben zusammen in Symbiose. > Ameisen sammeln und essen den Honigtau der Blattläuse. Die Blattläuse sind wie Nutztiere. Die Ameisen „melken“ auch den Blattläusen.
> Im Gegenzug schützen die Ameisen die Blattläuse von Fressfeinden, wie Insekten, Spinnen und Vögeln.
Ants and aphids live together in symbiosis. Ants collect and eat the honeydew of aphids. The aphids are like farm animals. The ants also “milk” the aphids.
In return, the ants protect the aphids from predators, such as insects, spiders and birds.
So I'm learning ᏣᎳᎩ (Tsa-la-gi. the Cherokee language). I'm getting the syllabary down before I start increasing my vocabulary. Still a handful (and they aren't used as frequently as the others) I get mixed up but I know about 7 out of the 84 by heart.
I don't live super close the reservation anymore so when I do start increasing my vocabulary I'll be talking to some of my relatives to make sure I have the pronunciation right.
Thing is I won't always be able to do that. Is translating works into your target language a good way to learn the language if you can't constantly talk to people in it? Or is there something else I should do?
There are mostly books. The Bible, educational material, a few novels, etc. I've read that the Hobbit is being translated so I emailed the translation department since they would probably know but I haven't gotten an email back yet.
The Cherokee Phoenix (Cherokee Nation's newspaper) is bilingual so there are still new things constantly being written in the language but as far as audio goes it's not a whole lot. And most is for the more common of the two dialects which isn't the one I'm trying to learn. They're 100% mutually intelligible but I'm also trying to focus on not being too influenced by it.
Angel Ramirez
if you can find media, that would be best. You could translate them, put in the Cherokee and English words on screen, and upload them on Youtube. Even simple things like 2 Cherokee girls talking about what they ate or simple dialogue
Sebastian Bell
hoard them
Henry Cook
Cool. I'll try that. There is one thing that supposed to be really good (and is kinda advertised by the Eastern Band (one of the 3 tribes)) but it's a pretty pricey online program. $400 per level (of which there are 4) which I'm not going to be able to do until June at the earliest. Only the first level at first.
Austin Ross
seems pretty normal price for a language course. I paid $350 for 12 weeks of German. It really helped
Aiden Nguyen
Yeah. I think it'll be necessary sooner or later. The language has got a lot of weird rules and a lot of the native speakers (there are only like 220 in the Eastern Band now) and people smarter than I am say it's innovative and successful in the way it approaches the teaching. But until then I'll try translating.
Andrew Sanders
slow and steady wins da race
Logan Martinez
>tfw no symbiotic aphid friends
Benjamin Thompson
>page 7
Bentley Reed
>perchè Conjunctions with "-che" (finché, poiché, perché and so on) want the acute accent. It doesn't really change much though, just an ortography rule. >ch'è filo c'è il/un filo. It goes without saying that, on Italian websites, we all call it "thread". "Filo" is just a humorously literal translation Italian 4channers use. There are short stories, if you feel confident enough at your level.
Xavier Phillips
Slight corrections: >Die Ameisen „melken“ auch den Blattläusen. Should be "Die Ameisen melken die Blattläuse auch". > Im Gegenzug schützen die Ameisen die Blattläuse von Fressfeinden, wie Insekten, Spinnen und Vögeln. "... die Blattläuse vor Fressfeinden..."
