Why can't people just stop having children to avoid future suffering?

I wouldn't mind.

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>holding humanity in high regard

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there's no point to life and therefore it's not necessary to bring people to life, and it's much easier to suffer than it is to be happy, so therefore bringing people to life is selfish and immoral and makes you a psychopath.

>world bad everyone should just die

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You're a Shitzilian. If you could at least offer good genes and a a good life for your children... but I dont believe thats the case.

>to avoid future suffering?
The best glass of water you'll ever have is the one you get after spending 12 hours under the harsh sun, dehydrated
Humans are fine-tuned to suffer and overcome. A comfortable life with zero struggle is a surefire way into mental illness

based

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>there's no point to life
The whole point is to breed, why isn't that enough for you faggots? Is it because you're virgins and can't fuck women so you just want everyone to stop existing??
You don't even know me macaco, stop talking shit you mental midget

Most people not everyone.

This.
Take the Schopenhauer pill.
youtu.be/q0zmfNx7OM4

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>The whole point is to breed,
But thats why we shouldn breed.

This. We're made for suffering. And it honestly says a lot about these anons that they're so scared of it to the point of saying "humans should stop existing to avoid suffering". These guys never had real suffering a day in their lives, and the result is their sick mind

"Rejoice, O Christian, when you feel the weight of your cross! that means you have one, for a Christian without a cross is not a Christian"
You don't have a cross that you're unable to bear. Embrace your suffering and offer it for the Lord and you will find joy in it

the point being to breed doesnt discount the rest of what i said

>if don't adhere to what I judge to be selfless and moral you're a psychopath
it's just retarded bullshit

>there's no point to life and therefore it's not necessary to bring people to life, and it's much easier to suffer than it is to be happy, so therefore bringing people to life is selfish and immoral and makes you a psychopath.

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Because people gamble that their kids will be better than them and not depressed lonely autists.

if the point is to just breed then why not just kill yourself after breeding?

Life is still meaningless

samefag

>>there's no point to life and therefore it's not necessary to bring people to life, and it's much easier to suffer than it is to be happy, so therefore bringing people to life is selfish and immoral and makes you a psychopath.

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U U
U U
atheist retard

Nobody is happy past the age of 12

>life is meaningless, I can't explain what I consider to be meaning but life sucks bro don't have children

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>trying to convince other people of either having or not having kids
why can't you just pick one and let other people decide on what they think is correct. if you don't feel confident about having kids there will be people who does, but there's also nothing wrong with not wanting to have one

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God is not real, dumbass.
I'm literally talking to a 45 IQ retard.

people who do* why is English so hard

If you believe life is worthless why havent you ended yours? What is compelling the antinatalists to keep living themselves?

>i and no one can discern the true purpose of life so i should have children and subject them to it, i dont care that factually it's easier to suffer than to be happy! suffering is worth it because i'm happy sometimes through my day dude rofl

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Sure being suicidal makes you very smart, sweaty :)

a number of population accounts for mostly Indians and Chinese, and the poor still relies on the quantity to manage manpower to carry out their works with low wage.

and it's like there's nothing but choice to whip them out to keep world balanced in the future.

>just do what you're heavily encoded not to do bro

It's part of the human experience. You only get one life, so why not?

how do you conceptualize "true purpose of life" in this context?

well you're heavily enconded to have sex and children, but you're not doing it :^)

>i want a greater purpose in life
>but religion is cringe and bullshit!
There is not winning with these autistic zoomers, just ignore them

just do what you want or I'll kill everyone in this thread

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it actually doesnt matter what the true purpose of life is because it's not necessary to experience life and there's seemingly no reward for experiencing life.

because i'm not a low iq ape who feels the need to bring people into the world for validation

Why can't brown people just stop having children so that white people and their children can inherit the Earth?

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Not only they bring suffering to their children but also to themselves, especially in the 21st century.

You work like a slave to spend your money on other people. You have to take care of them, wipe their ass, feed them, put up with their crying at night. It's even worse if they're female because we already know that having a daughter is the ultimate form of cuckoldry.

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I rather exist and suffer everyday than not exist.
Not existing is scary :(

life cuck

desu

I'm doing my part but it doesnt matter. Suicide rates in white countries are the highest and people are not having children because they're smart and have realized the futility of life a long time ago.

the "purpose" of life is to sustain itself through procreation, I don't get what's so difficult to understand.
the idea that existence should be like some video game where a magical force rewards you at the end is idiotic as hell and is just an attempt at overcomplicating a simple matter.

I bet u watch anime

ok, if that's the purpose then it's a needless purpose to fulfill. and then procreation should be avoided because life is factually more consisting of suffering/indifference than it is happiness because it takes a lot of requirements occurring at the same time to be happy/content.

>considers having a daughter as an ultimate cuckodlry
>posts a qt loli anime girl that needs to be cared
god, sometimes I really hate the hypocrisy of ppl that are in the same community with me

What do you mean needless? Having children is like living forever through in your family's bloodline
Pretty based purpose for me

hey user did you know? there won't be any replies to this thread past this line because the good answers have already been covered right here so yeah don't reply to this thread, have a nice day
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>me need to be seen! me no care what happen to child as long as it lives so the process can repeat! me no bad person either for this because me do what me suppose to!
what a downie monkey you are lmao

nature doesn't care if you think it's a needless purpose.
suffering isn't good or bad, it's just a part of life just like violence is an intrinsic part of life, it's like complaining about having to breathe or eat.

I liked when the dude just offs her and her stupid egg for bants.
Oh spoilers

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>suffering isn't bad because it's in life and nothing about life is bad
okay moron

He's based

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>thinking "bad" exists
lamo, it's just your brain releasing chemicals making you feel "bad" to aid in your survival

Why do you think the little happiness you do get out of life ISN'T worth it though?It could be different for every person depending on the extent to which they suffer, but I personally believe I'm fine with the tradeoff between postive and negative moments/aspects of my life

the good/bad dichotomy is a uniquely human concept, fundamentally it has no relevance

sure I'll kick you in the balls, I mean bad is just a concept lmao

you can try, doesn't mean I won't defend myself

why would you defend yourself?

calm down monkey
Governments can't afford a demographic collapse so they brainwash people into reproducing.

>people suffering aren't actually suffering because dude lmao what is suffering when you really think about it? i mean it is subjective rofl.

there's a bunch of requirements to be in a decent mood for most people: not starving, not being in pain, not being harassed, not being mentally ill, not being poor, having friends, having a relationship. all of that requires effort and luck and opportunity and when 1 thing goes wrong you won't be in a good mood. so therefore it's much easier to be in a bad mood than a good one, so therefore life is inherently bad.

because you attack me? animals will defend themselves from existential threats, it has literally nothing to do with morality.

literally not what I said whatsoever
the nihilism has clearly fried your brain

>I'm doing my part

Thank you for your service.

animals can't think. if they did, then maybe they wouldn't reproduce as well. that's not really a good comparison

you said it doesn't matter if something is bad because it's a part of life and good/bad is subjective and i was saying that it doesn't matter if that's true because when people suffer it's legitimate, you retard.

It wasn't a comparison, it was an answer to your question. Humans are animals and animals are biologically programmed to respond to existential threats.
>animals can't think
yes they can, but it's not as sophisticated as humans.

>you said it doesn't matter if something is bad because it's a part of life
correct
>and good/bad is subjective
I said they are human concepts that don't apply to nature in its fundamental state
>i was saying that it doesn't matter if that's true because when people suffer it's legitimate
you weren't saying anything, all you did was put words in my mouth and failed to understand what I actually said.
I never denied that people suffer or that it's illegitimate, I said that life isn't purposeless just because life has certain qualities that aren't pleasant.

Of course it's easier to be in a bad mood, but the time that a person actually is in a good mood isn't worth that? Just because life holds more negativity quantity wise doesn't mean it isn't worth experiencing for those few precious moments of contentment when all human needs do fall into place.

I'm not saying you should not respond to your instincts. but that also means not to ignore the fact that "nature just wants us to keep on breeding bro" is a bad motivation to have kids. I'm not like the other anons who think having kids is wrong, but I think that's a shitty motivation that makes bad parents

you can say platitudes all you want but the fact is that life is just about reproducing, and that therefore there is no reason to have kids because it can be avoided; it should be avoided because it's much easier to be in a bad mood than it is a good mood--regardless of its "just a part of life". most people don't enjoy/hate being: without friends, without a relationship, in pain, poor, mentally ill, harassed, starving, sleep deprived, etc. if those aren't fulfilled you won't be in a good mood and will possibly be suffering, and those all require effort, luck, opportunity, etc; it requires action--it's easier to suffer than it is to not. so why should anyone be subjected to any of that when they could just not be born and enjoy peaceful and good nothingness?

it wont be remembered when you die so there wasn't a reason for it to happen because it'll be like it never happened, and it shouldn't happen because you didn't consent to being born and because it's factually easier to suffer than it is to be happy.

I understand what you mean, but I'd say that it's a logical motivation and arguably it's the reason why most people have children at all, it's simply a matter of instinct. It may lead to many people being born in unfortunate situations, but I don't think it's an inherently "wrong" motivation since humans have little control over it.

Fuck you. Suffering must be a choice (actually it is).