Vietnam was under Chinese domination for 1,000 years but they were never assimilated. Why?

Unironically the Vietnamese is the real life KARA BOĞAN BVLL they fought the Japanese,French,US. They all got btfo'd

OH NO NO NO

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What’s wrong with this assblasted chink ITT? Do chinks really have this much of a complex about Vietnam, to the point of having hundreds of pictures of anti-Vietnamese propaganda ready to spam at any moment?

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Color me shock that peoples who have had contact with one another for millennia share DNA.

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every vietnamese ive met has been absolutely based and redpilled so that is probably why

YEAH THEY TAUGHT YOU VIETNAMESE PIGS CIVILIZATION.

AND YOU UNGRATEFUL WHORES SPEAK AGINST YOUR CHINESE FATHERS LIKE THIS.

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God the last thing i'd want to be is a Insectoid. Proud whitoid here Zhang.

Oh, it's the Khmer poster. I don't even have a problem with darkies but how can you claim that Chams or Khmers are lighter skinned than Viets? Anyone with eyes can see it's not true, at least try to run KARA BOGA game or something.

except you can't explain it with modern nationalism, because china back then wasn't looked at as a nation but a culture. Which is why vietnam, korea and japan all looked at themselves as "china" and a representation of the "chinese" culture. China has nothing to do with blood, which is why vietnam,korea and japan for a time considered themselves china and everyone around them barbarians.

Vietnamese really vulnerable to be assimilated by the new culture, but just really hard to be assimilated by nationalism.
Before French come everyone literally speak Chinese.
When French rule, most people can speak French.
When they leave, Vietnamese use the Portugal alphabet language for their new "nationalism movement".
They also did well at assimilated other to their Nationalism so sometime you see some literally Chinese thing they're Vietnamese.

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They were assimilated

>wow china was conquered by mongols and manchus so weak
>vietnam is based they were occupied by the chinese for a millennia

China tried it 4th times and Viet alwsys resisted it you sneeky chink.

>what is the bac viet

>Include Cantonese.
You maybe also a Viet that gets assimilated too, if you include them at Viet.
Cantonese really like to "immigrate out of China".

bach viet werent sinic, they were austro-asiatic, likely part of the kra-dai peoples.

Chinks have plagued Vietnam for thousands of years. In the Middle Ages, when the invasion of China caused the destruction of Vietnam, the royal families of Vietnam exiled to the Korean Kingdom. Their descendants still live in South Korea.

That why i say you maybe a Bac Viet too if you count them at Viet.
Meme aside Chinese just a big part of clusterfuck people that probably not even original Chinese and just get assimilated because their ruler just like to rule big country and don't care about their origin like the Manchu.

its more like a collection of unrelated tribes that spoke languages from different modern language families.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Song_of_the_Yue_Boatman
like this one, where they interpreted as loosely related to the thai language.

yes i might be bach viet, or xirong, or qiang, or xiongnu, or some other minority in ancient china
cantonese have the greatest probability to be related to bach viet/vietnamese kinh people. i am hakka, so i might be related to She people.
i think maybe the modern day zhuang people who live around that area may be related.

Vietnam is basically scuffed China, they have the same cyber security laws, government, and flag

So, ethnically, are the Chinese in Hong Kong and Guangdong the same as the Vietnamese? Southern Chinese are too different with Koreans so Northeast Asian in appearance. They are more like Thai and Filipinos. Their Skin is tan and height is short.

>Meme aside Chinese just a big part of clusterfuck people
yes because there's no strict defination of who's chinese, its not bound by blood. If you look at the traditional Hua-Yi distinction, even Qin Shi Huang wouldn't be considered chinese because the Qin came from modern day eastern Gansu, on the western edge of what people may consider as core china, their neighbors are literally this "Among the various Rong tribes in the Western Regions, the Wusun's shape was the strangest; and the present barbarians who have green eyes and red hair, and are like a macaque, belonged to the same race as the Wusun"

>same cyber security laws
I still can access to "America progpanda" website and porn, no blocking from there.
>Goverment
They're a clusterfuck so maybe you're right.
>Flag
We have it first.

they are quite related. in ancient times the coastal area around hong kong and hainan belonged to the vietnamese trieu dynasty

>However, the mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) of Han Chinese increases in diversity as one looks from northern to southern China, which suggests that male migrants from northern China married with women from local peoples after arriving in modern-day Guangdong, Fujian, and other regions of southern China.[174][175] Despite this, tests comparing the genetic profiles of northern Han, southern Han and southern natives determined that haplogroups O1b-M110, O2a1-M88 and O3d-M7, which are prevalent in southern natives, were only observed in some southern Han (4% on average), but not in northern Han. Therefore, this proves that the male contribution of southern natives in southern Han is limited, assuming that the frequency distribution of Y lineages in southern natives represents that before the expansion of Han culture that started two-thousand years ago.

Maybe.
Count from race we're not far from them.
Count from genetic, Vietnamese probably their ancestor.
Because China is one of the first civilization of the world.
If you claim yourself at Chinese, you basically can rule the country without a lot of rebel problem.
And then you have that barbarian claim themselves at Chinese and want to rule China, and other "barbarian" claim themselves at China and join the great China war to claim the throne.
The big difference of Vietnames and "Chinese" is that the Vietnamese have good nationalism identify so even if the culture literally the same, they don't call themselves at "Chinese" which is the BIG difference.

My guess was right. It's quite interresting. There are quite a few Koreans in South Korea who have China-origin surnames that have been naturalized to Korea thousands of years and hundreds of years ago. But, ironically, most of them hate China and Chinese and despise communism more than anyone else. You know that, culture and language sometimes have far greater influence than pedigree.

no surprise
most chinese people here hate china or dislike them at least. lol

>There are quite a few Koreans in South Korea who have China-origin surnames that have been naturalized to Korea thousands of years and hundreds of years ago.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but IIRC, Korea did not have any surname policy until early 20th century.
In other words, similar to Japan and Europe, most of the family names were made up relatively recently unless the person in question came from a royal family of sorts.

Just wondering, how would Singaporeans treat Vietnamese people living in Singapore?

Korean and Vietnamese don't become "Chinese" even once called themselves Chinese because they never success to rule the country once.
Otherwise, if Korea successful invades China, your fate probably just at the same at the Manchu.

neutral
there are not too many vietnamese here
we are a bit more hostile towards people like bangladeshis, filipinos, chinese nationals, etc etc who make up the bulk of the migrant workers here.
but nowadays we are mostly neutral to all of them anyway

>but they were never assimilated.
because China is a meme
and Vietnam was assimilated

Cambodia is so poor and shitty
also somehow it feels hotter in the city than in Saigon
also lmao how Cambos are butthurt that Vietnam hat to step in like big daddy and tell you to stop killing your own people en masse.

"Chinese" is not an ethnicity, its not a nation
only in the 20th century did they start to pretend that they are a nation due to European autism at the time.
China has dozens of languages and hundreds of ethnicities, yet they are all "Chinese"
in the past anyone who was considered civilized was called Chinese even if you were a Viet, or a Korean, or a Turk.

This, which is why I don't get why people make such a big deal about manchu or mongols establishing the Qing or Yuan dynasty. Even tho none-han groups have established their own dynasties in China since forever. Even the tang emperor was half xianbei.

vietnam is still poor economically but i am not ignoring vietnam and people in vietnam. because i know history. i mean, hundreds of years ago, when china was america in east asia, vietnam was a much more nation than japan, and it had a rich legacy. at that time, korea and china thought that japanese were worthless savages and ignored japan, but thought that vietnam was a civilized country. japan was able to develop lucky with only the forced opening of america and europe, but it is only a moment of moment in the great flow of history. now s.koreans and japanese are born in a lucky era and enjoy relative wealth. however, it is cringe to brag it. and i think vietnamese have the potential of economic development and success.

If it was not for the French you would be part of China today.

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Dude the french literally tried to sell Vietnam to Chiang Kai-sek
French did absolutely nothing of worth in Vietnam aside from jobbing to a then infantile army despise having ww2 tech

>Invade a country that have no current problem with China.
>If it was not for the French you would be part of China today.
I kinda pro French but damn, this so retard.

>Vietnam stronk!!

But they were conquered by China for 1000 years. Ming dynasty conquered them too. If Vietnam is strong then is China almighty?

>Do chinks really have this much of a complex about Vietnam

Yes

Why does Vietnam have no notable culture? Cambodia, Myanmar, Indonesia, Thailand all have excellent architecture, art and culture. But Vietnam doesn't have any traditional culture. Even the Ao Dai is a modern clothing.

How come Vietnam doesn't have culture?

It's not really like that either. A long time ago, Viet and Chink civilization were one and the same in the southern China, Cantonese region. Guangzhou was even the "Vietnamese" capital. Then the populations split, the ones who migrated south became the Vietnamese and the ones who stayed became the Cantonese. It's really no shock that Chinks and Gooks are very similar genetically since the term "Chinese" encompass a large amount of different peoples, and Cantonese and Vietnamese are basically Danes and Swedes (same but different). If Vietnam never went independent they would have been called Chinese today.

A tropical disease a day keeps the Han away.

>cyber security laws

No they don't. They sometimes half heartedly block facebook for like a week, that's about it

Have you ever BEEN to Vietnam? They have a shitload of nice architecture, art and culture. They have sinic culture rather than khmer culture (like the others you mentioned), though.

Viets are hardworking unlike the SEA monkeys and pajeets.

>They have a shitload of nice architecture, art and culture.
Name some.

We never refuse the fact that Manchu's almighty.

What are you looking for specifically? You know you can just google it, right?

Here's a rundown of what you'll find

>up until the French occupation, literally the same as China since the countries were one and the same for a thousand years
>up until 1970-or-so, not much since the nation was in near constant war
>post-1970, the modern stuff you see today

because all those country you listed are based on Champa, Indian or Muslim architecture, which is much or exotic to you than the Sinosphere architecture (China - Japan -Vietnam - Korea)
And you American bombed the shit out of the 2 imperial captial cities (and ancient Chinese the rest), so not much is conserved

>tfw one parent is from the North of China and the other one is from the South

FREAK

autism

we were under Magyar occupation for 900 years and never assimilated either