What's to stop a Spaniard/Italian (or any other poor European) from moving to Finland and receiving welfare/housing? If being in the EU allows free movement, why doesn't this happen more commonly? Can any Yuros explain??
What's to stop a Spaniard/Italian (or any other poor European) from moving to Finland and receiving welfare/housing...
because check the weather map
Because contrary to what many people in this board may think, not everyone wants to leech off first world countries. Most people are fine in their Homeland, specially considering they're from Spain and Italy LMAO it's not like they're in fucking somalia
Would you not prefer to have money and live by yourself than to live with your parents?
Because alt-right talking points are retarded.
>What's to stop a Spaniard/Italian (or any other poor European) from moving to Finland and receiving welfare/housing?
1. The ugly language barrier
2. Not qualifying for welfare
3. Not willing to live on welfare
4. Friends, family, home
5. Xenophobia on the destination
6. Just not wanting to do it.
I'd rather work in my own country for lower pay than unroot myself to immigrate. The difference in pay is high, but not high enough to justify deleting your entire life in your country and moving forever to a foreign one.
Some of the most desperate people do it.
Also some professionals that can make like 5 times more money abroad also leave for some time, ie a few years.
But most people don't really want to leave. That's why.
thanks op I'll do that now
Spain and Italy have high UE rates and many of them live with their parents.
How exactly would they not qualify? Also, who gives a shit about the language barrier? Most of those countries only require you to speak English, which most Yuros can speak fairly well.
Because they got the same welfare or better in their own EU countries.
I'm pretty sure Finland has much higher benefits than fucking Spain or Greece.
It's all in your head and nominally it wouldn't mean shit since food and heating is expensive here.
Because contrary to belief, Italy is not a Syria tier shithole. Even if you make 10k less Euro a year the quality of life is better. Why do you think Finland only has 5 million people.
France, Germany, and UK are full of Portuguese and Spanish migrants already
People can be dumb. That would explain why someone would prefer to live in Shitaly over Finland.
>Even if you make 10k less Euro a year the quality of life is better.
No. It's just the same with same social benefits so why would you change apples for apples.
>Why do you think Finland only has 5 million people.
Russian attacks and paying money to Rome from 1200s for them to build churches and get nothing back.
> why won't south Europeans leech off a foreign state instead of getting a life? Jow Forums told me they're starving and living in a Bangladesh tier trash heap so it must be true
leaf range ban when
Looks pretty bad to me
I'd rather be jobless in Spain and Italy than being a wagie in Finland. Apart from a bit less unemployment in Finland I fail to see how they are better than Italy and Spain. There is a reason why they top the world in amount of antidepressants and coffee consumed per capita.
It's free movement of workers not free movement of people which means you do not benefit from social assistance in countries where you have never paid into the system. In theory EU member states can still people that cannot support. themselves.
can still deport'
except if you'r Germany, then you need to give all kinds of benefits to every single Romanian and his made-up kids who "still live in Romania"
people here aren't starving you know
I can't imagine Italians liking it here. The culture is diametrically opposite in many ways and it gets kinda cold and dark at times.
Contrary to the memes it is not as easy as you think at all.
Only passport/residence permit holders of the respective countries can apply for welfare, or EU nationals that have worked for a considerabel amount of time and are actively looking for a job.
What if I "look for work ;)" for over a year, and find nothing? Am I qualified then? Assuming I'm a Spaniard/Italian.
Because you touch yourself at night
how did you know
because i don't want to learn an asiatic language just to live in a frozen shithole. Also most of the food outside of italy is usually shit
>What's to stop a Spaniard/Italian (or any other poor European) from moving to Finland and receiving welfare/housing?
Well for one, getting neetbux isn't actually that easy lmao.
It's too dark and gloomy in here. Plus we hate foreigners
because not everyone is an unemployed bum? most people would rather work a modest job than be a NEET
>English, which most Yuros can speak fairly well
not southern yuros
Bring your food with you Lucio. I’m sure those Finns love pasta
>alt-right
go back to america
legit the most retarded post i've ever seen
why do you think he talks about the average italian or spainard? you guys are so naive
>Most of those countries only require you to speak English, which most Yuros can speak fairly well.
Not when you go to south.
No one wants to live in a frozen westland inhabitated by autismos people even if they give you house and job.
>westland
Finland confirmed white
Yea i meant wasteland sorry
I don't get it. Why are Italians and Spaniards poor in your eye?
>from moving to Finland
Tbh, the fact that 99% of all finns are completely autistic.
I don't mean this in a bad way, they're pretty nice people, it's just that dealing with barely functioning ultraspergs that can't sustain a conversation for more than 5 seconds at a time 24/7 would get old really quick.
Italians have the opposite problem where most of them are too loud and never shut up, but i don't want to enter the autism zone, that's too much too.
All i want is an in between, people that don't talk too much or too little and can act normal.
Now that i think about it canada might be a good pick for that.
why talk when there is no point?
To add to this: i've been trying to bang finn guys and girls for years, because both can be pretty hot (occasionally).
Once you get past the dicking they've got nothing to talk about.
How can you develop a relationship with someone that quite literally can't talk to you about themselves and their interests?
It's good for one night stands and fuckbuddies, but what if you want something more?
Hell i'd argue that you can't even really be fuckbuddy with such a person, because what basis can there be for such a friendship if you can barely understand/know about the other person?
Finns straight up never open up, wich is convenient in some aspects but boring as hell in others.
Because getting to know people is rewarding. I have been blessed many times by the wisdom of strangers
Italians are smart.
Germans on the other hand are absolute gullible autist retard.
A friend of my sister is from Italy.
They moved here to receive maximum social benefits, while building up houses in Italy and ultimately move back once their kids run through education.
Nobody smart wants to be exploited.
You got it all wrong bro,you don't talk with the fins you have sex with them and Participate in orgies/get drunk. That's literally what your supposed to do.
here the cost of living is very low because we have everything here ,everything but not the money LUL
Based wholesome German poster
if you want to talk to Finns you have to get them drunk or know them for 20 years. No-one wants to listen to an endlessly yammering Italian they just met who's talking about nothing.
>Mutt-lite actually believed the Scandis shitposters and that they get 2k euro/month and free housing
>Wanting to small talk
Please never ever come here.
You have to work here to recieve benefits.
>Housing
lol no such thing here.
This. I'd rather be poor here than rich in Finland. If you've lived all your life under the sun moving to a northern country can be soul crushing(unless you are soulless AKA a psychopath) .
You do actually get quite a lot of NEETbux here, it's just that it takes like several years of fucking up over and over for them to give it to you and even then it's not actually that much money considering the cost of living.
rather be poor and unemployed than migrated to other country with an autistic language and people who don't like you
>complaining about small talk
>while posting on fucking Jow Forums
They prefer sun and beautiful cities to depression and snow. understandable t bh. Who the fuck would want to live in Finland? I still have to hear someone that visit it and didn't tell it was depressing
>Small talk IRL is the same as bants in an user forum
You are quite literally retarded
>retarded American comes into the thread and just spews out retarded bullshit that makes no sense.
Like pottery.
>having troubles with using the same easygoingness
Someone's too sensitive here.
It's not so wrong though. If I had a good job there I'll move to Italy.
>Also most of the food outside of italy is usually shit
Another Italian food-nazi, what a surprise
This. I've met some Italians and it's impressive how annoying they can be, talking about irrelevant things and being fucking loud, even more than my countrymates
Even if I would be HSP-tier sensitive, it's still not the same thing.
Finns don't speak good English either, Seppo
I agree the Finns here are excruciatingly boring and "awkwaarrddd" it makes me want to tear my skin out whenever I hear Finns talking. Also Italybro, get this, whenever Finns are friends with someone you'd think that they can get a conversation going. And they do! But they're toxic as shit to eachother, laugh at others misfortunes, rarely share, and if they do share with you, you're all of a sudden in debt to them! I've never had a Finnish friend in my life. I tried,but it never goes all well. The racism doesn't help either, they act as if all's well then I get around mentioning my background. Instant resentment after that. I'm kinda grateful that I live in Eastern Helsinki (the poor area of Helsinki) , since that's where all the non- Finns are (Estonians, Russians, Somali and, Arabs) all whom I've actually befriended at least once. I'm Russian, born in Finland, and I would not recommend anyone to come here if they like having a healthy social life with the locals. Thank you for reading my blog.
>Why do you think Finland only has 5 million people
They don't. They have 5 million Finns.
So you are some immigrant?
>I'm Russian, born in Finland
you have adhd?
what if the foreigner is white?
All these answers are bullshit, the entirety of southern Europe would be here if they would receive welfare here immediately.
The only reason that they aren't is that they would have to work for a few months to become eligible for neet bucks.
Finns have no trouble shitposting online but that has nothing to do with small talk
vuosaari? Come fight me, meet at columbus
Sorry to hear that, hope you'll social life will eventually improve.
Italians aren't any better
Kontula. Come to my hood. Koko itä tulee sun perää.
I have friends. Just not finnish friends. :^)
People from Europe live better in their own countries (almost every country has a decent ammount of welfare) than in welfare in a foreign country. When they emmigrate is to work.
if you were born in Finland and managed to go through school without getting a single Finnish friend it might be time to consider who's at fault really.
Then again I have the privilege of not being Russian, but I can't imagine that being an instant total rejection unless you're an ass about it somehow.
China + India are 5 times as good as the USA
CONFIRMED
we don't live badly here , it's not all about money retard
The real answer - cause they can, so in their psyche they don't want to. If they were barred access they might feel it's an attractive location
Also two other reasons that go overlooked when you're not a NEET shutin subhuman:
1) the GDP farce. Most countries, when they hit a quantium of lets say 20k nominal per capita look the same. Slovenia on the ground is like Sweden
2) When you travel places, you get sucekd in the vibe. When you're sitting in Santorini, smelling the sea, looking at the warmth and the happy people, you wonder how other people can even exist elsewhere. You equate living landlocked as suicide. And then there are millions of people who live landlocked. But this is the reason people pay mega millions to be on the waterfront
There is still significant economic migration from the south, mostly concentrated in powerhouses like germany, uk and france. Because people believe it's harder to get jobs in small states
Kontula school: 65ish% Finnish
Kulosaari English line (where I was) : 20% Finnish
Kulosaari generally school: 50% Finnish
SYK IB: 40ish% Finnish
I think it was pretty easy to go through these without getting a Finnish friend. Also I lied, I actually had a Finnish friend in Kulosaari. Who was Finnish, though culturally speaking he was more Australian since he lived there for so long. When he spoke Finnish he sounded like a mamu.
b-but Jow Forums told me southern europeans are brown, and in my american mindset being brown means being mexican=poor, so southern europeans are poor right?
Honestly if I was a Southron on a coast I'd be paranoid the entirety of Northern Europe doesn't move there
And they do, look at a beach in benidorrm in summer. If northrons didn't had money enough to sustain they would all move to the coast. As they do
Learn to read low hdi cumbucket
He said finland isnt grear because their pop is 5 million
China and india have huge populations, therefore they must be amazing places to live in
>being an instant total rejection unless you're an ass about it somehow.
Don't mistake not having Finnish friends with it having acquaintances. I can chill with a Finn, but I wouldn't consider them as friends.
I guess it goes down to individual people. I met this spaniard boy who was the most annoying and loud piece of shit ever. He was from Madrid, I don't know if it means something from a spanish point of view, I don't know spanish memes about their different regions
being an Northern Italian, Dalmatian or Istrian is probably the most comfortable life in the world
Easy betabux from Nords and no work needed because you live like a king for 800 euros a month
Face it, you wish you were a Southron
>therefore they must be amazing places to live in
depends where you live in
they can't move here because it's too expensive even for them. Only american millionaires move to Tuscany and the lakes
There is a huge ass coast in spain, italy, and balkans that northrons can move to and buy apartments or vacation houses
Do you even hear italian in the summer?
finns can open up and be non autismal but it is usually considered to be shameful to do so. if you're a foreigner then they're going to have an even harder time opening up to you since they perceive you as a novelty that they have to be careful around (so they don't embarrass themselves)
finns are definitely more spergy than americans on average, but a lot of it is exaggerated due to self-deprecation and the fact that we amp our sperg up to eleven around foreigners
maybe in Spain, not in Italy. Germans here come on vacation with their campers and trailers, they don't buy houses
this
s-stay away from here, we piss poor unemployed and lazy and kill eachother.
Do you live in southern italy or the northern mountains?
I live on the coast onf one of the northern lakes, I confirm this. Swarms of Dutch, Germans and French come here in the summer with campers
north, germans are campers they don't buy shit here. They're very cheap and don't spend much. Southern Italy sees very little tourism from abroad
Please tell me this is not the Atlantic
We talk to strangers and get to know people too. We just leave the useless stuff out and focus only on the words that matter. No empty compliments or useless analogues, no questions we don't genuinely want answered and no pretending.
Why such a low res image? Post bigger
I get 1.3k€/month and rent is 415€ (incl. water) for 53m^2 apartment in town center.
Well, yes it is (canaries)
It's an old-ish pic, I don't have it in higher resolution.