Why do the french try to claim the Normans?
Why do the french try to claim the Normans?
I genuinely support Norman independence. Maybe thats just because I've got Norman ancestry but still.
Not even normands support it
Because they're French but butthurt Angloids try to claim they're not to cope with the fact that we're England's daddy
Why? They have a very separate and distinct culture.
They're french,
Every region in Europe is like this
Some people are just smart enough to understand that sticking together against a common enemy is better
>Why? They have a very separate and distinct culture
Kek'd hard at this
Tell us how
Historically France has been made up of the Gauls (south east), Franks (east) and Norsemen (Normans, to the North-East of France).
These ethnic groups are very divergent in terms of their Indo European culture, many having different religions, agricultural styles and even architecture. Normandy was its own dutchy for hundreds of years, like a protectorate.
lol
at best normans go "we wuz vikangz"
because they're indistinguishable from french, they are now, and they were 1066 AD
They were influenced by the Bronze Age, not the Viking age. They arrived hundreds of years before the Viking Age. Literally every Indo-European culture is similar in the respect.
Because they came from Normandy, France
yeah but you see unlike you cunt that cant even claim the whole island under one name
we have this culture genocide or assimilate thing, that make people feel more french than some local identity
Because since a while already we consider everybody in France to be "French" so we consider all our regions' history part of French history (except to some degrees the Corsicans and the Basques, the Bretons, the Alsatians and Mosellans).
However, Normandy was cut from Neustria which has always been considered French, and even if a band of Danes were made the masters of the region and the place made independent, it doesn't make it any less French, since it never stopped to be French in any way
honestly the only thing different they had with the rest of what you'd call "the French" in the high middle ages was the name, since the region was called Normandy
>very separate and distinct culture.
howling
you must be trolling
he's not. this is what british posters are like
>and even if a band of Danes were made the masters of the region and the place made independent, it doesn't make it any less French
what a load of shit
Tell me why you disagree then
soGGy soGGy my fGiend
Anglo here, I can help disspell some of the most frequent myths and mistruths associated with Normans:
1) The "Normans" were not in fact French, but rather Viking immigrants from Scandinavia who spoke a language closely related to Old French. Genetically, culturally and historically, they have little in common with the French of antiquity or modern times.
2) Norman induction into the English aristocracy in the 11th century has been counteracted by entrants from the native Anglo-Saxon population over the centuries to such an extent that scarcely a trace of Norman blood remains in modern day England's upper-class.
3) Norman and English miscegenation occurred on a very limited scale outside of the aristocracy, and the general population of modern day England has almost no Norman heritage.
4) The Normans, in contrast to the English, no longer exist. This fact alone should be proof enough of which ethnic group is superior, if one is concerned about such things.
5) The English have contributed much more to the realms of science, art, music, literature, medicine and countless other fields than the Normans, who concerned themselves mostly with war and conquest (for a few short centuries anyway, before fizzling out of existence).
6) To the extent that anglo-norman cultural synthesis occurred, the result was something greater than the sum of its parts for both groups. Although minor, England's Norman cultural heritage is something that many modern day English folk feel proud of.
7) America's global cultural hegemony, which dominated the 20th century and continues to do so today, derives primarily from British culture, itself deriving primarily from English culture. While the Normans have long since gone extinct (being culturally, linguistically and sexually subsumed into the Kingdom of France), England has a legacy that dominates the globe to this very day, and continues to thrive as a global superpower in its own right.
>except to some degrees the Corsicans and the Basques, the Bretons, the Alsatians and Mosellans)
explain
Why english "people" are still buttdevasted for 1066?
because kinda got conquered by the fr*nch
well, corsicans are pretty italian tbf
Basques are kind of their own thing
Bretons and Alsatian-Mosellans like to think they're their own thing (celt and germanic) even though they're barely different
we usually all consider them french though, that's why i said "to some degrees"
You would be upset too if your country was invaded by barbarians and had a foreign king installed
They civilized you pig skins.
mosellans don't feel different
corsicans hate italians
because it lets them live through a more robust, vigorous, relevant power (us)
Because there's no reason not to. They were essentially French.