My dream is to see Brazil on this list.
My dream is to see Brazil on this list
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That's why you call it a dream, because it will never ever be real.
Everything will be alright, we will be there
Why is Brazil still a dystopian 3rd world shithole despite being 56% white?
You're confusing Brazil with Muttland.
Brazil is the real muttland though
No, Brazil is Sopademacacoland (uma delicia)
Brazil will be better than it is now....... in a century from now.
because 90 million white people aren't enough to run a country with 120 million nonwhites in it
If South Brazil was a country it would the #1 in that list.
>31st
IT ONLY GOES DOWNHILL FROM NOW ON
My non whites can kick your non whites asses all day Paulo
I've always thought white Brazilians in the south live pretty much on the same level like first worlders.
What's an average salary of a middle class white man in a city like Curitiba or Porto Alegre?
They're meme white. Most of them are mutts that say they're white
>I've always thought white Brazilians in the south live pretty much on the same level like first worlders.
lol no. Maybe with independence, but that's just guessing.
Your average pole probably lives better than the average sulista.
GDP per capita in the south is a bit over U$10,000, which is romania-tier.
Average household income per month in Curitiba was R$6.700 in 2016, which is around U$2.000 in nominal terms but probably higher in purchasing power parity.
Basically, it's better than the balkans and eastern europe but definitely not as good as first world.
To give you some perspective: if you can afford a BMW, Mercedes or Audi, you're rich.
t. upper middle class curitibano
Reminder that “non white” cities like Niteroi (average income R$9.4k) and Nova Lima/MG (average income R$ 9k) have higher average incomes than southern shitholes like Curitiba.
>Average household income per month in Curitiba was R$6.700 in 2016, which is around U$2.000 in nominal terms but probably higher in purchasing power parity.
so that's actually higher than here, I'm an average Pole and I make barely $900/month
>niterói
>non white
lol niterói is where the rich white cariocas go to avoid the favelados.
the city was 73% white in the 2010 census, which is only 5% lower than Curitiba.
>nova lima
wow, a city of 90k people with an income inflated by iron ore companies is supposed to be "richer" than a city of 1.9 millon people!
you're poor m8
>so that's actually higher than here, I'm an average Pole and I make barely $900/month
keep in mind that figure is for a household, not per capita. If the average household is 4 people, then that's only $500/month for each person.
no, that's pretty much average here
but my household is 1 person
Stupidest fucking meme. Porto Alegre is a horrible place to live, it’s a dirty, poor, ugly, grim, violent hellhold and one of the worst capitals not considering the ones in the Northeast.
Curitiba is decent enough, it is cleaner and looks a bit richer but there are still lots of favelas and violence is a huge concern.
The best place to live in Brazil is the state of São Paulo, which is located in the southeast. It is the richest and least violent place in Brazil. Quality of life is infinitely better than anywhere else in the country.
Santa Catarina in southern Brazil also has decent quality of life but it’s still poor as fuck compared to São Paulo.
Another Southeastern state, Minas Gerais, give both Paraná and Rio Grande do Sul a run for their money in most stats.
Why are most of those countries Europeans
Culture of high IQ.
I can only judge by google street view, but all Brazilian cities in the south look roughly the same to me. The same infrastructure, architecture etc. Maybe there are some slight differences but they don't seem to affect the general view.
Anyway, I guess prices in Sao Paulo are also high.
But I must admit I love CBDs in Sao Paulo (Avenida Paulista) and Rio de Janeiro (Avenida Rio Branco), I'd love to live there for some time.
why don't other countries adopt this culture
Reminder that most of those german-inspired architecture in the South were built in the 80s/90s for tourism.
>If the average household is 4 people, then that's only $500/month for each person
And a lot of people live on such money here. A lot of them have even less, because if you have 2+2 family it means the parents must make $1000 each which is already quite a lot here
>t. paulista
Your state is a giant favela. Stop sending your criminals rob banks here in the south.
My dream is to have a brazilian bf
That would be cultural appropriation, which is a white thing to do
My dream is to see the world map without R*ssia
It took 5000 wars for Europe to get at the state it is.
who gives a fuck if your country is .85 or .95 i'd rather live in Brazil than 80% of those shitholes.
A "giant favela" with better stats than Southern states in nearly everything, only SC even comes close.
>Israel above Italy
High grade bullshit, most of Israel is worse than the surrounding Arab nation.
t. Jew
That is completely wrong though. Northern and Western Paraná towns and cities for example look very different from cities in RS especially in terms of architecture and urbanization. Geographically speaking they’re different worlds. It doesn’t even look like the same country to me, whereas you could cross the USA and Canada and all suburbs look the same.
My dream is to have a russian bf
seething nigger
Whatever, just stay out, macacoboy.
Shut your mouth, I was born in western Paraná and live in Maringá right now. If you cross the border to São Paulo everything is immediately better. Small cities there shit all over every Paranaense hellhole. You’re just a delusional cunt.
Even Czech Republic is above Italy lmao
ignore him he is mentally ill
He's right though. It's different but not that different.
Get out of my state, filthy paulista.
Isn't Maringá one of the best parts of Paraná though? I thought it was similar to the SP countryside.
>average southern response
Can’t counterargue with facts so you gotta cherrypick a photograph from the hugest city in Brazil, which as bad as it is, is still way less violent than any southern shithole.
I think France should not be there anymore since how unsafe it has become with all the Nafris.
Good dream. I don't know how you can do it though. Maybe try to start with your neighborhood.
its better than sp's country side
that retard is a larping faggot
im born in prudente but lived in londrina and itajaí.
both are better than most cities in SP.
Not him, but it is. They root for paulista teams, they have the same accent and etc. The most developed places in Parana are also the most paulista.
Paraná is literally worse than São Paulo in EVERYTHING. It is poorer, more violent, has worse quality of life (some towns in central Paraná have medium HDI kek) and is dirtier. I could at least respect your opinion if you were from Santa Catarina, but Paraná is excrement when compared to São Paulo.
seek medical attention
>still way less violent than any southern shithole.
That's because criminal factions of São Paulo are setting shop here in the south. We're not accustomed to the kind of violence they bring.
t. never stepped out of his paraisópolis favela and blindily believes numbers on the internet
>Being this butthurt because we seceded from São Paulo
Thank god, imagine being a filthy p*ulista
>Northern and Western Paraná towns and cities for example look very different from cities in RS especially in terms of architecture and urbanization.
I don't see much difference desu.
>Sao Paulo's crime factions is why we are shitholes!
Maringá is the best place to live in Paraná but like half of the inhabitants of Maringá are from São Paulo
And yes Maringá is similar to São Paulo
>we will never be on this list
As you can see, they're both safe places. If they were unsafe, those fences would be 4 meters high, and electrified at the top.
>são paulo is white and first world
>the numbers aren’t real because they’re inconvenient to me
You actually have a very real possibility, Bulgaria has pretty good sustained economic growth, and EU membership is a huge boon.
new worlders are delusional
Ponta Grossa is eastern Paraná, yes it looks similar to RS. Try Medianeira.
The people who live in those favelas as still 4 times less likely to be murdered than people in Curitiba and Porto Alegre (both of which also have favelas anyway).
Poland is a lot better. I've also been "travelling" around in Poland through Google Maps. You're basically first world now, the only difference from Poland to western countries is that they earn more money.
I'm surprised that we are on this list
Why? Estonia is amazing, you've done nearly everything right since becoming independent.
> repeatedly posting pictures of Paraisópolis from different angles
Off yourself. Paraisopolis is still less violent than places like Tatuquara in Curitiba
>i was born in western paraná
so you were born in the poorest region of the state and want to act as if the whole state is as shit as the west?
>Curitiba is decent enough, it is cleaner and looks a bit richer but there are still lots of favelas and violence is a huge concern.
other than people stealing your cellphone (which also happens in são paulo, don't lie you faggot) no one here is concerned about violence.
> São Paulo [...]. Quality of life is slightly better than anywhere else in the country
fix'd that for you
Maringá is a thousand times better than São Bostaulo.
you can't seriously believe this lol.
also the only reason curitiba is "violent" is because we get the drugs from Paraguay and supply it to the rest of the country.
Weed is dirty cheap here.
Very common place in Brazil.
if you unnironically believe this, youa are a literal retarded cracolandia dwellet tbq
it is on that list
just much much further down
>Porto Alegre is a dirty,
Yes
>poor,
Some areas
>ugly,
Subjective
>grim
lol this place is green af, there are so many trees, almost a jungle
>violent hellhold
Yes
Pare de sujar o fio com essas imagens.
São Paulo capital é uma merda nojenta, assim como toda capital bostileira, vamos falar de outras cidades.
you probably didn't see our villages or outskirts of our big cities that have actual favelas just like yours:
gazetadopovo.com.br
Murder rate in Curitiba is almost thrice the rate from São Paulo, deal with it. Porto Alegre is an even bigger shithole.
Thanks Brasiilia
Western Paraná is not the poorest region of the country, did you pull that out of your ass? It is about as rich as the north and agrobusiness is huge there. Southern and Central Paraná are the worst regions, they have incredibly poor cities.
The West has cute small towns like Toledo and Palotina. Cascavel is also a decent place to live.
>2014
this dude is a literal retard
im paulista myself
but admit sp is a shithole, most of us do btw.
much rather live in florianópolis, bc than here
GAYUCHOS BTFO AS USUAL
SANTA CATARINA IS THE REAL SOUTH, FUCK GAYUCHOS AND KEKNAENSES
You're obsessed, Pshek. Take some meds
The average gayucho man wants an Haitian dick and the average gayuch woman wants a real man from Florianópolis.
post your regions HDI
I am 0.937
That looks more like a rural place rather than a poor place. It's very similar to some places we have here. Just need to pave the roads like this neighborhood here:
>the south is more violent than são paulo because of this and that
>the south is poorer than são paulo statistically because of this and that
Lmao the cope is hilarious
Very nice, looks rich, at least that street (I guess the main one), but I looked at some streets nearby and they also seem very nice and kind of wealthy
Btw I see this city has around 350k people which would be already a state (province) capital here, while I think it's a small town in Brazil
Deve ser aqueles fi de baiano que pensa que é paulista kk
>Murder rate in Curitiba is almost thrice the rate from São Paulo, deal with it.
so what. if you're not in CIC, Tatuquara or Sítio Cercado you have nothing to fear.
US state HDIs are a meme. You can't expect anyone to believe most of the US is Norway or Switzerland tier. And you know damn well it isn't
whatever dirty ape
stay in your cracolandia hellhole
I'm just realist.
>That looks more like a rural place rather than a poor place
It's in the suburbs of our main cities.
>Just need to pave the roads
Too expensive, won't be done for the next 10 years probably
>the cope
Have fun being murdered in Batel
My cousin was robbed by gunpoint and had his car stolen in Água Verde