Why do modern day Russians prasie both monarchy and communism? Isn't it a bit schisophrenic...

Wasn't it natural resources and heavy industry? I believe it was pretty much achievable without starving millions to death in gulags.

They were, but it's still pretty illogical. I can only think of Spain out of all countries that has similar situation, but there, society is still polarized on that matter and supports either side. Meanwhile, in Russia there seems to be a narrative that both sides were "good guys" supported by the majority, despite of obvious fact that they were polar opposites that hated each other, and that one of those sides is actually responsible for genocide of their own people (not to mention the other countries).

>sucking both nazi and jewish dick
Come on Ukraine. Pick a side.

>Russians are a single person
There are actual monarchists, there are Romanov dicksuckers, there are those with romanticized idea of the imperial times from literature, there is commie trash, there are Stalin bootlickers, there are boomers who think USSR was great because their dick still worked without blue pills, there are those who think any of those are better than the absolute kleptocratic shitfest of today, there are zoomers that just like playing shitty idpol for the sake of edginess and/or due to autism, there's any number of combinations of the above categories. Although I'd say you will rarely find someone who praises both and it will mostly be some hurrah-patriotic bydlo that thinks anything Russian is unequivocally great.

If you mean
>both at the same time by a same person
it's mostly about the "good ol' days" and irredentism, not about political systems or anything like that

Ideologies don't kill people. People kill people.

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not really, they got humiliated very easily by both Japan and Germany in the 20th century. the Soviets would later defeat both countries

no, it's not illogical at all. maybe start a commie hate thread since what you're saying is really the illogical thing here

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>hurdur some wars were lost so not superpower
Russian Empire at its greatest extent was larger than Soviet Union, brainlet.

land mass is not the criteria for a superpower you fucking retard. otherwise we would all be slaves on Canada

Russian empire humiliated the ottoman empire countless time and conquered all kind of central asian nations

because russia is eternal
it doesn't matters if the leaders are communists, monarchs or oligarchs
imperial russia was russia
soviet russia was russia
new russia is russia

russia will forever be russia

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>conquering and holding territory is not power
>losing one or another arbitrary war is a decisive criterion of power
Okay, double digit boy. US must have stopped being a superpower after it got btfo by Vietnamese rice farmers with WW2-tier equipment.

You mean like Germany was defeated by France and Poland in WW2?

that's true, but it's not really my point. I was just bringing up those examples to demonstrate how much more powerful the Soviet Union in 1939 was compared to the Russian Empire in its final days.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superpower

>The term was first applied post World War II to the United States and the Soviet Union.

Guns kill people, too.

why are slavs so ugly?

I'm sorry but Jerarskiy Izbogom is one of the most handsome man

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yeah this russian is handsome

>praise both monarchy and communism?
This is the future that ruskies want

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Based Depardiev

Mentally, they stuck in time as a nation. So they have to celebrate the tales of the Empire days (''uh, what could've been'') and the supposed ''Victory Day'' of the Soviet people. Because there's nothing but defeat in today's reality and recent past. Subconsciously people understand that and, as any young nation would do in their position, make a psychological flip, trying to lick both sides of the coin, turning a blind eye on the present.

>they
Who are you?

Monarchy: a strong empire
USSR: a strong empire
Modern Russia: a poor, miserable banana republic

Accurate

This as well

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Just guess, it's wonderful to watch you people play identity politics, when you on the defensive.

>Just guess

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Different people have different opinions.

>destroying fascism is a good thing

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>there's nothing but defeat in today's reality and recent past
you better be a tourist to say that

For Russia and USA.

Fascism wasn't destroyed, although it's shit and should be destroyed.

based

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no, rapid industrialization forced by a matter of survival and owning half of Europe made them a superpower

yes?

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Typical NPC response.

Hello, proxy.

From the Slavs I know, the USSR is looked at with massive nostalgia.
>strong nation
>relatively low crime/pretty safe
>many national identities working together (Slavs/Balts/Central Asians)
As far as the monarchy times, I think it comes from hearing stories of the Russian Empire holding the line against Ottomans, expanding through the wilds of Siberia, and tearing apart historically powerful nations like Poland-Lithuania and Sweden.

let me guess, butthurt minorities ?

I don't know. You're the one trapped in this cheap dichotomy, so you must have all the answers.

wow russian people are really racist
i am glad my parents moved out of that shithole

>хyдoжники пидapacы
вce вepнo

>You have to pick a side goym
No I don't

Both are part of our history, was it good bad, successful disasterous. Ethnic russians were core of USSR and Russian empire. (However its funny that in the end USSR did more good things to russians as nation than russian empire, somewhat national state for russians).
So from todays perspective, people look at them as great ancestors, not oppressors or enemies. And civil war considered huge tragedy. If you think about it, both sides were ethnic russians that shouldn't have killed each others.

Wherr is that image from

Same, a Russian stabbed me when I was lil

It did you cock sucking Ameriboo

Who praises it?
Never seen it
You are delusional.

>Because there's nothing but defeat in today's reality and recent past.
Including Brazilians fucking and impregnating at least one million of your women?

I didn't watch the WC, so I know nothing about that.

It's about having a father figure watching over the land. They aren't praising communism but stalinism.

Dumb people are nostalgic for any area that isn't now.

*era

Goddamn this is atrocious. This might be trolling or something.

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>many national identities working together (Slavs/Balts/Central Asians)
Lol, we undermined Ussr evey chance we could, and got out first chance we could.
We hated it.
And we were richer than rest of the Ussr anyways.

Communism made Russia a super power while capitalism made it whatever the fuck it is now.

That's only because Russians are subhumans who needs to be slaves to be productive. Always needed dictatorship, always will need, at least until it will balkanize.
Capitalism made Lithuania, Estonia, Poland, Czech republic much richer.

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Fuck off dumb poleshit

>USSR
World-spanning superpower and the only serious contender to the USA
>RF
A larger alcoholic moldova

Depends on which kind of russian. State propaganda imposes patriotism as the main ideology. "Patriotism because of patriotism". And in this line of thinking government tried to play soviet and imperial themes. And the shift towards empirewank becomes more and more obvious, when such historically flawed projects as Trotsky tv series and documentaries by Yelena Chavchavadze make it on federal tv.

I really do wish that you would be occupied by Russians to see how good is to be under them.
And we'll see how your economy will be after that and how you'll be even more of non nation than us after it.

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>Trotsky tv series

Kek

Link?

Anarchy is good

>baaw muh slaves muh subhumans
>t. bufferstate of niggers that has produced literally nothing of significant cultural, scientific or industrial value and is only historically notable for sucking polish cock over 200 years
Kek, assblasted baltshits are possible the only characters more pathetic than pidorashkas.

>Cultural
Mekas, Ciurlionis, Nekrosius
>Scientific
Multi stage rocket, Crispr
>Industrial
Literally fintech center of Northen and Eastern Europe
>only historically notable for sucking polish cock over 200 years
Except had their own country much longer than Germany even exists as an entity, one of the influential dynasties in Europe ( Jaggielons) literally split of the Lithuanian Gedimid dynasty.
And during Commonwealth time most influential nobles were of Lithuanian origin

Fuck off Germshit

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Such dissonance was made by media combining of all that ideas and meaning. Propaganda need to rule so they use all that stuff

This pic is actually weird, none in his sane mind would emigrate in nowadays proebaltic, and those who already in live in there for practically one century already, only a zoomer faggot such as yourself would post and spread something like this.

I'm just waiting for this thread to 404

> none in his sane mind would emigrate in nowadays proebaltic
Lol, contruction work, taxis, truckers and toilet cleaners here are literally mostly immigrants from Belarus, Ukraine and Russia

>an american an irrelevant literally whos
>taking the entirety of credit for minor contributions
>a bunch of worthless local market startups
>and poland let us play the important parts!!1
Jesus, imagine actually posting that instead of some edgy reply thinking it's impressive. There were fucking micro-dukedoms in HRE that accomplished more in a century than your banana republic has in a thousand years.

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We did it with 10x smaller population though.

And Revolut and blockchain companies are used all around the world too.

>Revolut
>a UK company created by 2 Russians
>memechain """"companies""""
You literally couldn't make this shit up if you tried.

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It's easy.
For poorfags - Sovock, USSR, you must work for food or you are traitor.
For elites - RE, noblity, capitalism, funny life in the Europe.

Russian propaganda just reflect this dualism.

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Since when did the Baltic become owned by the Balts? This is German-Russian land.

It's on Netflix

>Netflix
>Promoting a literal father of neomarxism
Color me surprised

Cringe and bluepilled

Actually no one give a damn . Most of people don't even have proper understanding of history apart from some propaganda highlights

If i don't praise neither how come i am not russian by your logic

The Überrussian

>Modern russian media
>In cooperation with western bourgeois company
>Promoting marxism
You clearly have no idea neither about marxism, nor about modern russian media and the way they shape current mass opinion on soviet era

I mean the ideology that promotes degeneracy and "minority" rights.

Trotskysm has nothing to do per se with "muh degeneracy" and modern day idpol. When will you faggots start reading anything besides buzzword memeposts on Jow Forums.