Should Switzerland be partitioned, it's just an ugly pimple stuck in the middle of Western Europe

>giving romansch land to g*rmany

You're all free to try again, faggots. Enjoy the gorilla warfare.

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If anything Italy should be partitioned between France, Switzerland and Austria. Everything south of Tuskany can stay shitalian

I used to have a swiss girlfriend.

I'm about a 16 cm around and 21 cm long and it has definitely caused problems.

My ex loved it at first but over time it wore her down to the point our sex life was in shambles and the relationship followed suit.

She referred to it as a "vacation cock", nice once in a while because its an awesome experience but having it all the time is too much.

these are the natural borders God gave to Italy

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Thank you for sharing this. Can we lock the thread now? There is nothing more to be said.

You

You sure can try faggots

French it is, then

switzerland is perfect as it is

French speaking Swiss by far

They're just misguided libtards

It's true. Switzerland has hidden forts, vast amounts of bunkers, highly armed civilians, a topography that makes ambushes easy and generally makes being familiar with the area a huge advantage.

There was more than one reason why Hitler didn't annex Switzerland, but he was definitly aware thar the losses would have been huge.

stfu [[[israeli]]], i know that you are really a swiss

>not including nice
cuck

Are there any Swiss stereotypes based in the language you speak?

For the italian part yes, for the remaining part lol who cares

My grandpa and his mates at the border shat their pants at a possible German invasion, they didn't harbor any illusions despite propaganda. And if would have been inevitable given Hitlers disdain for direct democracy and multilingual countries. At least the "Alpenrheinland" - Basel, Zürich etc. would have been annexed for sure

There was also an incident where the German Luftwaffe tried to asses the strength of ours which resulted in an aerial battle and us taking German POW's. Another hilarious thing: There is a town called Moskau here and Germans actually "invaded" it
>Das Restaurant zur Moskau gab durch seinen merkwürdigen Namen und die Lage unmittelbar an der Landesgrenze Anlass zu mancherlei Spekulationen. So wurde während der 1930er-Jahre ungefragt kommunistische Propaganda zugeschickt, da einige Genossen dort Gesinnungsfreunde vermuteten. Im Deutschen Reich war man ebenfalls dieser Ansicht und befürchtete, im Moskau werde ein bolschewistischer Angriff auf Deutschland geplant.
>Tatsächlich ging es jedoch lediglich um Schmugglerei. Der Wirt des Gasthofs zur Moskau hatte dem 24-jährigen Schmuggler Hermann Weber, einem arbeitslosen, aus der Tschechoslowakei stammenden Kaufmann, einen Verschlag für seine Waren und zur Übernachtung zur Verfügung gestellt. Am 27. August 1933 wurde Hermann Weber mit einem Begleiter von deutschen Zöllnern angehalten. Auf beiden Seiten fielen Schüsse, Weber kann fliehen, der Begleiter und die mitgeführte Schmuggelware bleibt zurück: ungefähr 50 Pfund Zucker sowie 150 Pfund antifaschistische Druckschriften der Kommunistischen Partei. Stundenlang suchten daraufhin Zöllner, Polizisten, SA- und SS-Leute aus der nahen Stadt Singen das Grenzgebiet ab, doch Weber lag bereits im Schweizer Unterschlupf.

Shit, misquote
>ier Männer der Sturmabteilung überquerten die Grenze, brachen in den Verschlag im Moskau ein, verprügelten Weber und schleppten ihn zurück ins Deutsche Reich, wo er eingesperrt wurde. Nach Protest des Gesandten des Bundesrates in Berlin gegen die Grenzverletzung und der Drohung, nicht am Nürnberger Reichsparteitag teilzunehmen, wurde der Schmuggler Hermann Weber bei Konstanz an die Schweizer Behörden überstellt. Aufgrund der Sicherheitsgefahr für das Land wurde der Schmuggler Weber darauf nach Frankreich abgeschoben.[2] 1934 hielten es die Wirtsleute Anna und Ernst Züllig[7] schliesslich für angebracht, ihrem Restaurant den unverfänglicheren Namen Hegau zu geben.[8]

Anglos see everyone thats not their puppet as their enemies.

Because Switzerland is the closest you can get from perfection in this century.
Right, lets pick a side and increase the number of deaths.

He's a paki or something, UK has been a protector of our autonomy for centuries (because it pissed of frogs and huns probably)

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Only if they want to, and they don't want to. They've left the HRE in 1648 after starting to ignore them in like 1490. Since then, they started to think of themselves as Swiss instead of Germans (and French and Italians).

If there is a country that deserves getting split up, it's Belgium. But I could see the benefits of a Pan-Germany with Austria, Switzerland, South Tyrol, East Belgium and Luxemburg (and Liechtenstein of course).

However, Switzerland is neither ugly nor stupid or anything. They are and will always be our brothers.

>There is a town called Moskau here and Germans actually "invaded" it

I imagine Hitler giving a order to capture Moscow at what ever cost, a few days latter their generals get to the door and announce, Heil Fuhrer, we diverted a division from the eastern front and capture Moskau without any problem. What should be our next goal? Maybe Russia?

I'd rather not balkanize the low countries any further.

No, the only way to make this work would be:
Flanders to Netherlands
Wallonia to France
The German-speaking community to Germany
Brussels probably to France since it's mainly French-speaking. Also a small corridor that links Brussels with Wallonia.

Gaddafi suggested it and look what happened to him. I would be careful if I were you

Just give us everything and we will help you to take Netherland

Just doesn't work. No way Walloons and even Bruxellois would like to be annexed by France. Belgium is their best option. It's true German speaking Belgium is more centered on Aachen than the rest of Belgium though.

Yes, I know it wouldn't work. By "the only way" I meant: The only thing that could possibly work if we had to dissolve Belgium.

And yeah, as an Aachener, Eupen and surroundings feels just like Germany. They're very close to Germany and apparently don't really feel connected to Brussels. Are you from Limburg?

Hm... Sounds good. But are you okay with having Flanders? They all speak Dutch. Is there anything we can do in order to make you give Elsass-Lothringen back?

Realistically, a United States of Europe is the one thing that comes closest.

keep on dreaming kraut

The federal states of Belgium are gaining more and more powers by the day. Belgium will hardly fall apart, but it will consist of almost de facto sovereign countries in future. (which might be a good thing for both Flanders & Wallonia)

Tell that to anything eastwards from us.
I don't see how it would work. The EU may dream of pulling it off, but I think there would be severe resistance. Even if it works, we would need subordinate states that are mostly independent in order to preserve their culture.

A benefit of a superstate would be that we could possibly throw some countries together, for example Germany and Austria. But alltogether, I'm against it. Economic cooperation is great and very much needed, but total a single political entity is a bit too much for me. They would have to force us into this. That said, we should obviously have the same laws as a foundation. But certain things are only to be decided by their own and sovereign governments, the EU already controls too much instead of mediating.

Nah sorry Charlemagne-bro, we need the natural borders of France, which means the Rhine...but we can help you for recovering Prussland and Pommerania ?

And this is how Italy managed to fuck up his god given borders.

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>a small corridor
Never. I rather would see it become an enclave where we can jew them on imports and visas for EU politicians.

Oooof poor german speaking parts have to join the g*Rmoids

The UK should be partitioned by Brussels.

>Brussels probably to France since it's mainly French-speaking. Also a small corridor that links Brussels with Wallonia.

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>Flanders
>Not rightful French clay

It's not about the languages, country boys vs. city boys, cathocucks vs. prots, mountain vs flat and in some cases valley vs. valley.

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The United States of Europe would not necessarily have to include every single one of the countries that are currently part of the EU.

>USA
>not rightfull British clay

Hm... Silesia, Posen and everything to Memelland... Yeah, you're right. That's fair, you may keep Elsass-Lothringen/Alsace-Lorraine. However, I hope you don't want everything westwards of the Rhine, because having to cede Aachen and Köln would be pretty uncool.

We would go for a friendly reunification with Austria (including South Tyrol) next, if you're okay with that. And the Netherlands would be great, too. Is there anything you would like to take, apart from Belgium?

>tfw winefag in beer country

Not before you're in there, too. I could live with taking Switzerland, but not being unified with Austria unironically makes me mad.

>makes me mad
Then you're gonna stay mad, cause we're no germans and will never unite with your cuck country that no one here likes anyways

Yeah, but that's not the sense of it, isn't it?
Europe should stand united, no exceptions, without having to form a political entity that spits on individual identity. The Eastern Europeans can be annoying, but they're right about this one (in my opinion) and they don't deserve getting left behind.

mostly is relative, all Z*rich countryside is wine country and so is Grisons. Also beer Switzerland does not discriminate against wine, so you're fine. Imagine being a beer fag in lower Valais, that's what real discrimination feels like.

You're delusional.
Austrians are Germans just like Bavarians are. You ran the show until Bismarck kicked you out. It was necessary in order to establish a German nation state back then, but now that Habsburger and Hohenzollern are gone, we can and should unite. Keep believing you're different from "us", but you're not. Hating us only means you hate yourself.

Good luck with that.

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Where you from, lad? And why do the Swiss hate Zürich? I mean, the French hate Paris and Germans hate Berlin. I can understand them both. Is Zürich this bad?

desu lad if this ever actually did happen it's not like wealthy comfy Swiss people would run to the hills and shoot the invaders. as long as living standards remained the same there wouldn't be any armed resistance

>they don't deserve getting left behind.
I'm sure they would be invited. We just need to proof them it's worth it!

I like my Austria how it is - Catholic and separate from Prussia's legacy.

yes

We also ran Slovenia and the Czech Republic. We have a lot more in common with them, than we do with Germany. The only thing that seperates is is language. But your ignorant little brain doesn't see that. We used to be Germans, but we're not anymore, just like how we used to be nazis, but aren't anymore. We know full well what we are, and that is Austrian, not German

No, Z*rich is so great and superior in every which way that the ski Cantons are just envious.
Half the country has to earn their pay in and around Z*rich, the suburbs are rich as fuck with very snobby people, and the actual city is full of lefty vegans on bicycles, whores and foreigners.

didn't Napoleon give Ticino to you?

It's expensive and full of foreigners

Such wisdom explains your track record with country building.

Implying all of Germany is Protestant and Prussian. Look at Bavaria, Baden-Württemberg and Saxony. Even NRW is mostly catholic.

I know, but the country is still more like Prussia than Austria. Also, Bavarians are a step removed from Austrians. Still we get along.

>We also ran Slovenia and the Czech Republic.
Well, they're invited to join us, too.
>We have a lot more in common with them, than we do with Germany.
For example? I think Bavarians and Austrians are very similar.
>We used to be Germans, but we're not anymore
I'm afraid that's impossible
>We know full well what we are, and that is Austrian, not German
You're both. Austrians are Germans, but there is not "the" German. Look at how different Hamburg and Bavaria are.

Na, Leventinese rioted against their Milanese overlords, they made a lot of money from the Gotthard and wanted to keep their share. So they allied with the Uri boys and killed the knights in a brutal mountain ambush. Very Swiss of them.

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Which German general was it that said Bavarians are the link between humans and Austrians?

right lets sell weapons to both sides to increase the death count instead

Bismarck allegedly

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What's wrong with Prussia? It doesn't exist anymore. Prussia rose to power long after Österreich became the leading power of Germany. They've been the most important state for centuries. (Federal) Germany is too diverse to call it "Prussian", ever been to North Germany? Austria is a part of that spectrum.

The prussian mindset still lingers about and has infected the non prussian parts like Bavaria.

When talking about Germany, if the state was unified under a Catholic government, it would look completely differently than the one unified by Prussians.

As for Prussia itself, everyone around here that knows it loathes Prussia for many things and especially their innovations in war, blaming the world war on their insane policies and ways of pissing off every neighbor. imo it's the place where southern Europeans start feeling really alienated and repulsed by the northerner culture

What is the prussian mindset in your opinion? I'm genuiely interested in how you percieve it.

Straightforward and rude

So basically like the Vienesse?

Well, people from the Ruhrgebiet and Berlin are like this. But people from Hamburg and Schleswig-Holstein aren't. Are all Austrians friendly and indirect? I don't think so. It's not that easy. But I admit that Prussia has had larger influence on us than it had on you, that's pretty obvious.

Is this what makes Austrians repel their brethren?

Prussian virtues

They were inherently lutheran-calvinist but became part of the greater German identity after the country was united under Prussia even in Catholic states

I work in Tourism and i don't know where exactly every german tourist is from, since i can't guess from their language as they all speak perfect standard german. But nearly all of them are pretty much like that unlike, for example, the swiss who are much more friendly

The Swiss are armed, badass and free.

reminder that Prussia did nothing wrong and was punished for the crimes of A*strians like H*tler.

Germans are loud and blunt, yes

Piefke, you will never ever reach the subtle and suave charme of Austrians, not even close.
To best describe the power gap, imagine this, Austria is perfectly shaped 8 inch cock with a nice juicy bellend dripping with precum and a fat line of best bolivian flake on top and a 50 Euro note is taped to the ballsack, whilst Germany is a 3 feet cactus dipped in glass shards, battery acid and dogshit.

Okay, interesting.
Are we this unfriendly? Perfect standard German would mean that they can't be from Berlin and the North or South. Real Hochdeutsch is only spoken in and around Hannover. But actually distinguishing an NRWler (except for the typical Ruhrgebiet boomer) from an Hannoveraner for example would still be very difficult, certain words give it away but noticing them is hard.

>people from the Ruhrgebiet and Berlin are like this.

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Actually laughed out loud.
If that's your opinion, I respect it. Very nice example.

Triggered B*rliner, I suppose.
I know it's a stereotype, but people from Berlin really are more blunt. And the old people from the Ruhrgebiet can be very direct, too.

Eigentlich können wir mittlerweile deutsch schreiben, hier ist eh keiner außer uns.

My father had a nice offer from a company in Zürich a few months before I was born. Sometimes I wonder how my life would have turned out if he had accepted it.

ich habe in allen ecken von deutschland gewohnt und die von dir genannten sind die am wenigsten autistischen

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