Does your city have trams? Light rail systems seem to be popping up everywhere these days. Here is our new very red tram
Does your city have trams? Light rail systems seem to be popping up everywhere these days. Here is our new very red tram
Hunter Sullivan
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Landon Bell
plenty
Christopher Jenkins
There are trams in the neighbouring city, but none here
>skoda
Pretty based desu
Isaac White
Here's ours
They be so fucking crowded in rush hours and it's impossible to get a seat thanks to the elderly
Eli Brown
btw never seen that model before. Who's the producer?
Austin Gomez
There were two trams in Slovenia (in Ljubljana and Piran) but they both stopped operating in the fifties. I live in a village so there's daily buses.
Gavin Thomas
lol my city doesn't have even funtional busses
Jason Walker
No I live in a 3rd world shithole. They tried a light rail system in my city and it shut down after a year because no one bothered to take it.
Dominic Sanders
no
Brandon Martin
Which is a shame since Maduro is an expert on bus driving
Owen Hughes
Austin Williams
Pretty much the same here. Some faggots decided that poor people should not need to pay to ride the bus, and then a shit load of free loader just started to ride the bus because they have nothing better to do. People started to became disgusted and quit public transportation, now the passage rise astronomically because just a bunch of people ride it and the rest are free loader that take a bus to the other side of the city just to get cheaper booze.
I am not kidding when i say that is far cheaper get a used shitbox and drive it around instead of hook up in our buses filled with negros and their nigglets screaming.
Thank god soon the transport company will bankrupt and smaller companies that does't follow what the gov tell them to do will pick the niche.
Cooper Walker
who needs harvard degrees and shit when you can drive your country to literal mad max world
Sebastian Anderson
Transtech in Funland, they also produce the trams in Helsinki but they look very different. Apparently this is under the same ForCity Smart Artic brand
Jaxson Lopez
Maduro has been prepping
Nicholas Hernandez
For comparison here's a Helsingfors bumper car
Kayden Cooper
>literal mad max world
Which one?
The first is just Australia day to day.
The second and third are faggots wrapped in leather with their butts naked hanging out looking for new sex slaves.
Jaxson Murphy
so its a replacement or a new light rail?
Christopher Morgan
THIS ISNT FAIR WHY DONT WE HAVE NICE PUBLIC TRANSPORT HERE FUCK NGGERS AND OTHER LOWLIFE THAT MAKE EVERYTHING TRASH
Luke Brown
Tampere has trams? I thought only Helsinki had them.
Adam Sanchez
we built the first (modern) light rail system in north america
too bad it's shit
Matthew Flores
Only large cities in continental Croatia have trams that are surprisingly manufactured by a Croatian company.
Noteworthy is Zagreb for being the only city in count with actually West European tier public transport.
Adam Smith
new, tampere doesn't have trams yet
John Perry
here's the train for the new line
Caleb Lopez
We have some lines
Jason James
Zagreb also being the most boring and useless city in your cunt. The best thing about Zagreb is a cheap flight and bus to get to your real coastal cities.
Ryder Johnson
Why is it shit?
Alexander Martinez
Alright. The one in Helsinki remind me of the one in Norrköping. They're from Bombardier, I think.
Levi Morris
It's in a different city, I guess they just want their own look. Helsinki is also getting a new light rail line which will be finished almost simultaneously to this, but again it looks very different
Jordan Hughes
The funny thing is that bus looks nice to the standards we manage here. People often pay to truck drivers to let them go ABOVE the cargo, it's madness and the police doesn't give a flying fuck since there are almost 0 busses and they probably did the same to go to the police station kek
i guess you can combine both of them and add a little of the book of eli (water and fold are getting very difficult to get) and you get fucking Venezuela
Xavier Ramirez
north america is not built for public transport.
we have so many immigrants from trash backgrounds shitting up the place and in turn no one wants to take it or it receives less and less funding because it doesn't generate anything for the city when a majority already have functioning cars. It's also more comfy driving a car than freezing yourself waiting for a tram, or having to adhere to train times. Public transport is unironically for the 3rd world.
Anthony Phillips
What's up with your public transport having different colours?
Henry Hill
urban sprawl + uncaring city council = not nearly extensive enough to cover the city
it's improving though
nobody asked you
Luke Hall
yes we have a few
Joshua Carter
That sounds like mad max to me
Jackson Myers
urban sprawl is perfect for public transport.
William Roberts
How exactly? I don't think that having to spend more money for infrastructure to transport the same amount of people is any good.
Jace Martin
Yes.
Bentley King
Good question, for whatever reason they feel like all of these different transportation forms need to have their own identity, even though they all ultimately do the same thing, i.e. transport people
When the airport line opened, they just kind of decided that these local trains are going to be purple from now on, though they're pretty much the same thing as the subway trains, which are orange. And now the light rail will be cyan, because it's not just a tram, it's a -light rail- so it absolutely needs its own brand identity lol
Joshua Bailey
Many of these lines go every 10-15 minutes. This is a smallish city of just a bit over 200k people.
Nicholas Green
I phrased that in a bad way.
Public transport is perfect for urban sprawl. Do you get what I'm saying now? Urban sprawl shouldn't be built for public transports sake, but public transport is good for a urban sprawl.
Jayden Fisher
Really odd. If all of them are uniform the transport seems more seamless.
Levi Thompson
Nevermind then, I understand what you're getting at now user.
Wyatt Sanders
Yeah we have trams and they're fucking terrible. The fact that people voted for this system makes me lose faith in my city
Cameron Flores
The trams here in Manchester are pretty popular due to terrible traffic problems.
William Gonzalez
Does this count?
It's just one short line and they're "expanding".
Noah Rivera
How do the tram-stops look like?
Hudson Ortiz
what's the advantage of light rail over a bus?
having dedicated bus and emergency responder lanes seems the best option
there's a reason there's firetrucks but no firetrains
Jayden Evans
You don't get stuck in traffic.
Luke Perez
yep
Blake Jones
>Environment
>Can run independently from the roads
>cooler
Juan Rogers
I kinda agree, and there's definitely a clear distinction in people's minds between all of these, most definitely the colors play a major part. Now some of those colors are so "iconic" that nobody would want them to be changed. The trams have been green since the start, then when buses became a thing they were made blue instead. The subway became orange when it was being designed during the 70s. They actually changed the trams to orange in the 80s, but people didn't like it so they were changed back
The trains on the other hand have always had various different colors, I guess they're now trying to make purple trains a thing like the green trams and orange subway trains. I personally wouldn't mind if everything was green, but if they tried taking away the subway orange now, people would dislike it just as much as the orange trams
Ethan Edwards
What's wrong?
Joshua Gray
it takes as much effort to make a track as it does a dedicated bus lane
>Environment
see pic
>Can run independently from the roads
by building a track?
Jordan Green
Look at this tram driver stand haplessly as three dozen passengers seethe because they're headed nowhere until the turbo-Chad Mini driver returns and moves his car out of the way.
Joshua Sullivan
Do you live somewhere where it could actually be practical? Because it would not be practical where I live
Matthew Smith
Interesting. People here got mad over the new subway seat style on the new trains, but no politician ever listens to us so it'll probably go trough anyways.
Eli Reyes
They are building this meme bus-tram thing in my city
Brody Ramirez
That shit is easily cured by 4 digit fines for obstructing the way.
Aaron Miller
What's wrong with them?
From an objective standpoint, they can carry more people than a bus. It's one reason the tram in my first picture is being constructed, there are so many bus lines clogging up the centre that they're replacing some of them with this. Generally if you have a line with high passenger volume, at some point it might become worthwhile to upgrade it to a tram
From a personal standpoint, I just think they're much more comfortable than a bus
Jackson Diaz
>by building a track?
Yes exactly. They build tracks on the side or middle by roads where traffic is a problem and just cruise trough.
Those buses are so ugly, though. You're gonna have to change tires on them as well.
Jack Thomas
That's just the Mini driver being a fucking retard, a good fine would fix that problem.
Bus lanes do help, but on freeways on rush hours is still hellish.
Benjamin Martinez
How is that supposed to work? Two tram lanes and one one-way lane?
Charles Perez
>From an objective standpoint, they can carry more people than a bus
do you mean they don't need as wide a base? so a bus will end up being 8 feet wide and can seat four people across but a tram will be 6 feet wide and 3 people across?
Gabriel Adams
Yes, it's not that helpful for me though because it does not run where I live. (Newark NJ). It's pretty nice though, for us standards anyway
Tyler Price
Both fit 4 people across and trams can be longer that one of those worm buses.
Xavier Miller
Well, they're usually also a lot longer. Though of course there are also articulated buses, but they don't seem to be that common. Which is actually something I wonder about, everyone seems to be building light rails, so do people just really like trams because they're not using these buses instead. I suppose passenger comfort plays into that, you'll get some extra capacity from people standing, and the ride is less wobbly when it's on rails
Jack Johnson
ok, here we don't have them and people say we need light rail but can never say why they're better than a bus
they turned the outside lanes of the busiest street here into a bus and bike lane, so the bus gets stuck between a cyclist going 20km/h and slows down a bus full of 40 people
Grayson Roberts
Downtown one
Luis Green
>bus and bike lane
Very safe...
Brandon Watson
we call them accordion busses, in vancouver they have them run on a few routes really frequently that are mostly straight lines
Jose Davis
Why was it designed with elevated stations?
Jose Miller
you can also go high instead of long
as a bonus you can sit up top and look down women's shirts during summer
Eli Young
They still don't fit as many, though.
Jace Morgan
It's not a tram really, it's a very long bus with an exclusive lane. Also that pic is of just one specific street.
I know it's not a true tram but it basically does the same. The renders looks nice, let's see if once they finish it looks as nice.
Ryder Price
The problem with these is that they're hard to drive. How many times have you rode in a worm where the driver accidentally drives over the sidewalk?
Kayden Allen
how big a reduction though, 10% fewer?
Samuel Reyes
It all depends on the tram and buss. Double decker buses also tend to fit less people than the normal worm ones because of stairs and other structural elements.
Ayden Robinson
Yeah that's true. A lot of our bus drivers are starting to be immigrants, and they drive like they're still in India lol. These would be even worse
I looked up the capacity of London's double deckers, apparently they have 100 seats, plus whoever is standing. A 40-metre tram can carry almost 300 passengers. But then it also becomes a matter of accessibility to a degree, the elderly, people in wheelchairs, baby carriages etc., a tram is more like a train by comparison
Boarding times will also be slightly longer with people climbing up and down. But I wouldn't mind having double deckers honestly, they're pretty neat
Jace Robinson
No idea. Never thought about that desu. Yours aren't elevated?
Jeremiah Kelly
Nope
Jaxson Diaz
I like the trams in Munich.
Blue and White looks really cool.
They were pretty much on time, Always.
Anthony Bailey
Yeah those doors are quite high up now that I look at it
Must have been a preference, I don't know when these were built but I assume low-floor trams weren't a thing yet. Our oldest trams have a similar floor height, but you climb up a couple stairs instead when entering. I suppose they preferred to have better accessibility over there, so they made the platforms higher instead. The old Stadtbahns in Germany are similar
Michael Cook
An example. Newer trams have lower floors so there are no stairs, and the platforms are maybe 20cm tall so that's quite convenient too. Took a hundred years but finally that design paid off
Caleb James
never noticed that
Brody White
It's a full standard railway For Japanese.
Levi Powell
>LRT
it's slow as fuck. should have put railroad tracks here instead. the tram goes all the way to the airport now. that's a 45 minute ride which is way too long considering this is a 250 000 population town. the people living in the nearby suburbs get quicker to the city by taking the bus. if the bus moves faster than the LRT thingy then i feel you've fucked up somewhere
still use it every day though. driving a car is expensive in this country.
Michael Cook
public transport is not built to accomodate a peoples who take up two seats on average
Nicholas Baker
No. Athens has Trams but they're shit and they're always stuck in fucking traffic.
Samuel Robinson
Are trams or LRS fast enough and do they have much capacity to transport people in big cities?
Camden Cook
that's a really cool-looking tram, ours don't look nearly as good
Jeremiah Price
lel how do old people get one these
Isaac Perry
Drones lift them up
Evan Wright
The platforms match the floor height, and they have stairs or a slope
Ian Thomas
nah, it's a comproise for cities who can't afford a real metro.
but having a lrt in your city is a great tool to get investments in parts of the city that were formerly struggling. people really want to live and work next to a lrt stop for some reason
Blake Hill
They have good capacity, but they're quite slow over here. If you look at this video, you can see how they're constantly waiting at traffic lights and stuff youtube.com
They can be pretty fast if they are built well though
Cameron Reed
I got it thanks
Wyatt Sanchez
I'd rather be a driver of metro than LRT. Because I don't want to hit pedestrians. But Helsinki seems to be a good city
Levi Ross
hell fuck yea
Gabriel Jackson
No sunlight, though