Facts of Language Learning

Why is English so efficient? It's more efficient than both German and French despite basically just being their bastard offspring. Is it our simplified grammar?

>Facts of Language Learning
learning basic vocabulary is one of the most underrated aspects when learning a new language, most people don't realize it because they either learn a language already linguistically related to their mother tongue or because they are learning a language they already had classes at school

What's informations?
Also informations is not a word. It's information only.

I think it is because our language is so dependant on the pronunciation. That might be completely wrong. I know people hate learning English because of that

>The list is about the spoken language, not the written language.
Still, a fluent speaker of mandarin has already memorized most if not all meanings of the syllable, not to mention the language is designed where all single syllables form also form a complete word (with multiple readings).

I didn't really have Japanese in mind with that post actually but I agree with your reasoning.

I think its mainly the huge vocabulary and speaking pretty fast

I think you're thinking of symbols lad

Saying you are learning a language because it is "useful" shows that you have no friends to learn a language for.

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Trips of truth

More info on the study
They took pieces of text in English and translated them into various languages. They counted the syllables for all of them and timed native speakers reading their respective texts to get an average. I believe the length of the text in syllables is related to the Information Density. The syllables and information rates are simple calculations.

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Pls, it's because 8 out of 10 japanese words are honorifics and shit

So if you spoke Vietnamese very quickly, it would have a very high information rate

no, generally the languages with more "information rate" are spoken at a slower pace and therefore it would be more difficult for a language with a low information rate to be spoken quickly (following the authors logic)

anyways don't pay too much attention to it, there were too many methodological flaws in that study and it was the first of its kind so maybe it wouldn't even replicate

What do you mean? Any language can be said to have Morae. It's just a concept applied onto it. Syllable is a Latin-derived thing, Morae is how South/East Asians traditionally approach it.

1 mora = 1 short syllable
2 morae = 2 short syllables = 1 long syllable (a syllable in everyday speech)

a syllable is not a Latin thing (by the way the etymology is Greek and actually Latin as well as Ancient Greek are mora-timed languages), and mora is not a "oriental" thing, Japanese has morae but Chinese syllables, Czeck and Slovak are also other languages with morae instead of syllables

What if they translated text from a different language?

I don't understand this concept, could you elaborate further?

from a scientific perspective, most fact books are written in German, not in English

different but related concepts to measure the prosodic structure of words
see www.sljfaq.org/afaq/mora.html for an easy non-technical introduction

So it's like syllables but every vowel (+ some consonants for some reason) counts as its own unit, even if two vowels are written together?

>So it's like syllables
basically yes
>but every vowel (+ some consonants for some reason) counts as its own unit
depends on the language

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everyone should read this article before being allowed to post their uneducated understanding of linguistics

Hell is a fact book?

>michlan is a fucking flip
Yikes!