What's your opinion on Che Guevara...

What's your opinion on Che Guevara? I don't agree with his idelogy but I do admire him as a man as he lead a movement from scratch and won against all odds. He was also a really good military commander imo.

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He died like a bitch

Also here's a picture of him without a beard and in colour

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Papi

he was ambushed by the bolivian military which also had support from the CIA. Dude was amazing, he went undercover to the Congo to try and start a revolution there too.

Imagine being ambushed by Bolivianos lmao

Only famous for his looks.

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Chad.

Not at all, but they definitely were a plus

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I hope this is not bait boludo
>I do admire him as a man
He abandoned his family
He take big part in the cuban genocide, killing even children.

>He was also a really good military commander
In Bolivia he and this comrades spend time taking pictures, that were latter find in the jungle. leading to his capture. He had also no stock of meds that he needed.

In resume: was a genocidal psychopath who killed without pain, who left his family without ever giving support, who was captured in a ridiculous way by the weakest army in South America.

This is not bait, just my opinion, I really don't care about changing your beliefs

Wasn't he racist against blacks though?

>He abandoned his family
like most soldiers do when they go to war? I don't see how it's a bad thing.

>He take big part in the cuban genocide, killing even children.
He didn't kill any children, post a source if you're gonna make a claim like that.

>In Bolivia he and this comrades spend time taking pictures, that were latter find in the jungle
Also never heard of this, his exact location was discovered because the bolivian army caught one of his soldiers and got that info after they tortured him.

He was until he took a motorcycle trip from argentina to the rest of south america. In that trip he meet a lot of people and saw a lot of poverty and it's supposed to be what made him go to Cuba to start a revolution against Batista.

Yes, before he was involved in any revolutions. He wasn’t racist anymore by the time he was in Cuba and later on he would actually fight alongside Congolese soldiers in Africa.

No I mean when he was in Africa. He said blacks were stupid and lazy or something. I think he even called them "niggers".

Why did he insist on that soy beard?

is his diaries he called the mexican people lazy indians, he was also very homophobic

If you like you must read his diary

All of those quotes are taken from his biography book "the motorcycle diaries"

I've read his biography as well as the transcription of all of his speeches and yeah, he was indeed homophobic, like the whole world at the moment. It was a normal thing to think at the time. Americans, brazilians, argentinians, etc, they all were homophobic back then.

Why is it so hard for conservatards to accept that there are people who disagree with them who are cool?

>he was racist towards blacks
So was everyone at the time (and today)

>he was homophobic
See above.

Not vouching for him or sucking his cock but like people really don't know prevalent this shit is lol. Like why is ita surprise to people now in regards to back then. Hell why is it a surprise now?

I'm a conservative and I think Che was a pretty interesting guy. There are many other anti-colonialists who are more worthy of praise. Che was still a pretty brutal communist at the end result of the day.

He has a cool story, but the guy died like a dog so not very intelligent. There are more interesting stories about people taking power like stalin or mao if you are into that

>guy died like a dog
don't think he had an options to pick from

>Che Guevara
more like gay buttgravya

mao and stalin were sociopaths, stallin didn't even care about his son and they both died like old sacks of shit with no glory.
Guevara was like an action movie hero, he saw injustice and acomplished the impossible agains all odds, went undercover all over the world and died saying "I know you've come to kill me. Shoot, coward, you are only going to kill a man." I hate communism but the dude was rad as fuck.

He was too extreme. Constantly wanting To destabilise countries for his own selfish political beliefs. He was brave though. Pretty shit how the Cubans abandoned him the way they did though.

Pope Francis is the easiest guy ever from Argentina.

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>easiest
*raddest

I do not think psychopaths are cool, they are interesting, but they were horrible people.
I do not believe in heroes or myths, no matter the ideology.
I like the truth, no matter how boring, cruel and harsh it may be.

The only people who don't like him are anti-Stalinist soyboys and butthurt Latin American capitalists.

So all soldiers and military leaders are psychopaths? Also fanaticism is retarded, but I don't think anyone here feels that way about him. Actualy everyone in this thread is acknowledging his flaws

he look handsome
8-9/10 at least

do you have Sopa de Macaco

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che had an important hole in the cuban genocide, in the death thousands civilians, this makes him a psychopath.
this has no relation with soldiers and military leaders.

did you see the comment I was replying?

dog eater monkey, you were brainwashed by porpraganda, I won't waste my time with you.
Hope your kids have a chance to see the world in a diferent way.

Do you even know what a genocide is? which part of the population did he target?
Also the comment you were replying to has nothing to do with the discussion, it was just someone saying that he was cool, regardless of your political identity

He was a selfish psychopath who didn’t care for anyone but himself.

He claimed to be a man of the people, and yet lived like a king. He owned luxury cars, luxury villas, and owned Rolex watches.

He also was also brutal, especially towards blacks and LGBT peoples

>you were brainwashed by porpraganda
ohh so everything i said= this guy get brainwash by gov propaganda, and my idea are great, good and valid and totally not being influence by right-wing propaganda right?

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>He was a selfish psychopath who didn’t care for anyone but himself.
fake he gave his life for his beliefs

>He claimed to be a man of the people, and yet lived like a king. He owned luxury cars, luxury villas, and owned Rolex watches.
he spent most of his adult life in the jungle, and died in one

>He also was also brutal, especially towards blacks and LGBT peoples
he wasn't racist but he did hate gay people, like everyone else in the that time

>I saw this face on a T-shirt
>This guy must be cool

>regardless of your political identity
"Why is it so hard for conservatards"
My response was: I do not think psychopaths are cool

>Do you even know what a genocide is? which part of the population did he target?
The target was the population that disagree with their revolution and didn't had the money to flee the country. They were eliminated, many women, priests, teens. An entire generation of Cubans.

Hey guys What's your opinion on Herman Goring? I don't agree with his idelogy but I do admire him as a man as he lead a movement from scratch alongside hitler and fought against all odds. He was also a really good military commander imo.

This is totally apolitical XD but I absolutely love him and his ideology,so what if he hated Jews literally everybody even Jews hate other Jews lol. I mean he was so handsome,cool I mean just WOW guys don't you wish you lived under national socialism? But of course only kidding haha

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not real, post a source for that claim, never have i seen before someone claiming that Guevara was responsible for a genocide

"wow nazi germany was really ahead of it's time when it comes to their weapons and innovations"
wow you are totally a nazi!11!! you can't take a neutral position and praise an individual/group of people for their accomplishment, regardless of their political beliefs

fuck off

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Different from those who live Communist dictatorships like yours.
I have access to free information from various sources, my government will not arrest me like yours if you criticize communism.
My goverment does not cesor my internet, my books, my life.
I don't even get offended by you, I feel sorry.
Your country is the communist party.
Like I said, I hope your children have access to free information to all sources, to all doctrines.

Sorry, but Che Guevarra was semi-competent guerilla commander whose main selling point is that he was photogenic.
It is literally idol worship

Sorry, but George Washington was a semi-competent military commander whose main selling point is that he liked getting his portrait painted.
It is literally idol worship

Wow I really love che Guevara,he was like the coolest guy ever! What an amazing guy!!!! But I'm totally not that communist argie who posts here all the time guys,trust me I'm not a commie XD But I love defending Che Guevara and deny his crimes lol XD :D

>I have access to free information from various sources, my government will not arrest me like yours if you criticize communism. My goverment does not cesor my internet, my books, my life.
''ohh no, this guy who live in a communist state dont have the acess to infomation around the world because probably his gov censer the info. I know that because right-wing info say it. I know that better than a guy who live actually live in nam and shitting about commie all day long. Hahaha those nigger gonna be arested by the police after posting reactionary joke and communist criticism on Jow Forums.
im right because i read the right info, and not from both of them since everything the left said=liar and jews''

and i used to think that only american will unironically said this

>even though you've clearly displayed utter dislike for communism and listed all of che's flaws I will still call you a communist because I don't have any arguments

George Washington is venerated for his statesmanship and presidency, not his battlefield leadership (which was mediocre), Jorge

Sorry, but it is your country that jails bloggers for life for "anti-state subversive activities"

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_Vietnam

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_Vietnam

It seems to be worse than I said.

>even though you've clearly displayed utter dislike for communism and listed all of che's flaws
>I'm not a communist but I fanboy over a dead Marxist guerrilla fighter!!!!
>Hey guys but he hated the gays,but I dont agree with that!!!
>Thinks the above is pointing out flaws when modern day commies are all pro LGBT and still keeps denying him killing civilians and some even underage

Sorry,I also like Che Guevara for his revolutionary spirit and constant dedication to a ideology (even if shit) but he was a piece of shit criminal. Your clearly a closet communist or a commie sympathyzer pretending you aren't into Marxism.

so there you go, whats wrong with praising someone's accomplishment while also acknowledging their flaws? took some time but at last you understood what I was saying.

I didnt deny he killed civilians, I denied he killed any childreen, there's no proof of that.
All battles and wars have had civilian casualties

Ignore him, this fucking retard is some autistic lunatic that is in every anonymous site possible worshiping and defending his dogshit communist idol. He does this for free all day and he only stops to sleep. He usually replies his own posts many times, sometimes consciously but other times is his personality disorder doing it.
Dont reply to him, dont debate him, dont try to reason with him, for everyone's sake just ignore his threads. thank you

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I will. Sage

He was unironically right with his criticism of capitalism and the US