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Well since we're this dead might as well ask something I had in mind. What determines when a kanji is used in things like ~やすい、~にくい、~すぎる ? I used to think they were almost always kana given their supplementary nature but I've seen them with kanji many times before, also applies to anything like という、たまえ、etc.
Can anyone tell me what a "ビジュアルクロス" is? Obviously it says "Visual Cross", but I have no idea what they is.
The context is, there's some contest and they prize is a 等身大ビジュアルクロス of some anime character.
Adam Brooks
you mean 易い、難い、過ぎる?they are used in prudish novels and such 過ぎる is kinda common, though
Carter Diaz
How do you respond to people who who mutter about 白人 to their friends? I'm not too bothered about it in country towns or cities like Nagoya where foreigners are less common but I can't help but feel offended in Seoul (Japanese tourists) or Tokyo where foreigners are much more common.
My angry response when they're clearly hateful is "なるほど、お前(たち)は中国人だね" since I know that'll annoy them.
But if it's just an observation and they think I won't understand what can I say to ask them to be more polite?
Currently I just say "失礼ですが、分かりました" but I'm not sure if that's clear enough.
Any creative retorts to the extremely rude people would be nice to share too, but overall I try to be considerate, I can understand xenophobia as I've experienced it myself as a young kid years ago.
Christian Flores
ちのちゃああああああん! There is nothing you can do against racism.
Ethan Garcia
So it's more of a style thing then? I see, thanks!
It's not "Visual cross" but "Visual cloth" and you use it to cover a desk or a table or just decorate your wall so might as well think of it as tablecloth with a printed character on it.
Ryder Moore
I guess that's like “table-cloth” so basically like an big anime poster but made of cloth
Jonathan King
>Visual cloth Oooh, I see. The nips are so bad with their Engrish words.
Either way, thank you for clearing that up for me. I appreciate it.
Jace Watson
put a bullet to your head stupid butthurt gaijin
Jace Phillips
yeah, kind of. when we try to write in an outdated way, we can use more kanjis.
Nolan Jackson
So you just accept racism lying down?
Julian Robinson
yeah it's very “Engrish” lmao
they don't think about how english speakers would feel about it they only think about how it sounds cool to japanese
Camden Watson
i'm racist so i can't be a hypocrite. i also don't look to get offended in other people's countries and start planning my epic retorts for the next time i invade
Juan Rivera
have you tried not being a リア充
Grayson Jackson
I'm not sure what you exactly meant. you felt offended by japs muttering “hakujin”?
Chase Rogers
I'm half Japanese so I don't consider myself to be an invader. Not planning it ahead of time either, I'm in Japan just roaming on my home plan.
So I don't mean just the word itself, it's when they mutter things like "let's move somewhere else, a white person is here" that sort of thing.
Jaxon Martin
>「だめよ……やめたら、また寝ちゃうでしょ。昔からあなたの行動は進化ないものっ」 I asked about もの here before, but I have another uncertainty regarding it after going back through a part of the story. Is the もの here just a dummy noun or something else?
Colton Wilson
I don't think there are many japs who mutter like "let's move somewhere else, a white person is here" only because they see a white person but if you really hate to hear they whispering about you guys in a silly way, it's better ask them like “どうかしたの?俺らのこと話してたけど?” or somesing like that. that would be enough to embarrass them because they definitely thought you couldn't understand what they were saying
Carson Stewart
Okay thank you for the serious reply, I'll use that one. Also I've definitely heard them say that, that's why I came here as it has just happened. It's very rare but it happens from time to time. Honestly I don't expect to have to say it any time soon but every few weeks you hear something like this and it makes me fume for the next hour.
Jaxson Brown
Would you recommend trying to learn Kanji while also learning the basics of the language?
Every time I try to learn Japanese I get part way into baby-level stuff and get completely overwhelmed when I add Kanji study on top of that. I'm wondering if I should just ignore it until I have a better grasp of the language?
Colton Lee
word and grammar are a language, not whatever they use to write it down
Jeremiah Wright
You'll have to start learning at some point but I wouldn't bother if it's causing you to give up.
What I would give some attention to is the pronunciation rules, and depending on how serious you are I'd give some consideration to pitch accent. The more you learn upfront the less unlearning you'll have to do later on.
John Ramirez
I think my issue is that I would end up learning new words via Kanji study (I used an Anki deck with common kanjis to start). Since I didn't already know the word, I was trying to memorize both the word and the Kanji so I would get overwhelmed. I know I'll have to learn it eventually but I think I'm beginning to understand why the Japanese classes my high-school had years ago had Kanji in its own class.
Nolan Walker
you need rtk (remembering the kanji by james heisig) in your life
Joseph Cox
it's like “because” but used at the end of a sentence
it emphasizes that she tells the reason (昔からあなたの行動は進化ない) why she said「だめよ……やめたら、また寝ちゃうでしょ」in this case
Cameron Robinson
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Zachary James
You're vastly overestimating the importance of kanji.
Liam Cook
hey nigger
Elijah Murphy
As I said, you'll have to learn it eventually but ignore it for now! It's useless to a beginner. Focus on your speaking and comprehension, definitely use the kana instead of romaji, but besides that don't worry about it.
“you should die because you're garbage!” 「お前は死ぬべきだ。お前はゴミだもの!」
it often needs to be ~だもの ~から is similar ~だもの is mainly used by females or kids
Alexander Ward
this
you can play most pokemon games without seeing any kanji
Cameron Allen
what if you want to do anything other than play old children's games
Isaiah Russell
What's the connection to "because" here? "I won't stop doing this because you'll fall asleep.. You have changed since you were a kid, after all (you'll continue to try sleeping in)" or something?
Luke Perry
I meant you can understand basic japanese conversations without kanji
trying to learn kanji before you could be able to fully understand japanese in children's games is not a very good idea
Jeremiah Morgan
so, what did you do today? not much, same old want to watch a movie together? eh, maybe later. got some homework to do first まあ、何したんだけど なんでもない、いつも通り 一緒に映画を見たいかい いや、今回なんていくかも、やっぱりたくさん宿題があるを終わってるに im not sure if the last sentence is right. i meant to say for the last sentence at the beginning, next time maybe to go. i also have a habit of using を near the end of a sentence, not sure how to try writing something different.
>「だめよ……やめたら、また寝ちゃうでしょ。昔からあなたの行動は進化ないものっ」 I'm not sure about the context but it's basically like “No…you'll fall asleep if you stop doing it, because you haven't changed since you were a kid”
Juan Rodriguez
Why else would you learn jap?
Jackson Roberts
doujins have kanjis
Dylan Parker
>eh, maybe later. got some homework to do first >いや、今回なんていくかも、やっぱりたくさん宿題があるを終わってるに いや、今回""いくかも、""たくさん宿題がある"の"を終わらせてから more simply たぶん後で(いくかも)、最初に宿題を終わらせなくちゃいけない and >so, what did you do today? >まあ、何したんだけど それで、今日何したの?
>using を near the end of a sentence totally OK, as verbs are very likely to be put in the ends of sentences, placing the objects right bofore them is a clear way to speech. >how to try writing something different You can put some adverbial phrase between them, like >宿題を"最初に"終わらせなくちゃいけない and so on.
William Gray
>doujins Not an incel.
Aaron Nguyen
>“No…you'll fall asleep if you stop doing it, because you haven't changed since you were a kid” *you'll fall asleep if you(or I) stop doing it, because you haven't changed since you were a kid
Ryder Lewis
but being a manchild gamer is better in your mind
Andrew Barnes
Then why are you on Jow Forums(nel)
Thomas Wood
I can play pokémon with my son. Sure can't read doujins to him
Just Jow Forums. Like to know things of the other countries
Xavier Wright
You come to a place filled with incels expecting to learn about other countries?
Luis Lewis
I unironically discovered some things here.
Julian Allen
yea but we're talking about learning japanese no one cares about your son
Adrian King
Thank you for the help. I think I understand now
Nicholas Lee
But you said i'm a manchild for learning kanji to play some video games and I said that I can play pokémon without being a manchild. But you can't read doujin without being incel