I just love building another Franco-German empire

>I don't want to live under the benevolent rule of my superiors

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>complain about america controlling the market
>cuck self out to russia and china instead of federalizing
what did you guys mean by this?

>real nations
>implying nation-states are not the hot new thing in historical terms

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not based
see for a based opinion

>NOOOOOO! BEING MY OWN COUNTRY IS BAD, I WANT GERMANY TO WRITE ALL OF MY LAWS FOR ME!

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we already do that so it wouldn't be a difference

I guess when you've never advanced from being a loose coalition of city states ruled more by others than yourself, you can have this view

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Proving my point quite well actually

half of that is true, the other half is NPC REEEEing

Entertain me, how?
Which half?

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>mfw the European Union gets reformed into the Austro-Belgian-Bulgarian-Croatian-Cypriot-Czech-Danish-Estonian-Finnish-French-German-Greek-Irish-Italian-Latvian-Lithuanian-Luxembourgish-Maltese-Dutch-Polish-Portuguese-Romanian-Slovak-Slovene-Spanish-Swede-Hungarian Empire under the von Habsburg dynasty
would you support it?

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yes
feels like shit lad, just want GroB Austria-Hungariums back

No, fuck Habsburger, Hohenzollern all the way.
And fuck your meme name, The European Empire

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>Entertain me, how?
If something like the 1000+ years old Most Serene Republic of Venice isn't considered a nation, and something like the less than 200 years old Republic of Italy is it proves that nation-states are far from the monolithic, unchangeable entities you pretend them to be

Imagine the flag

just got a raging boner imagining it, is this normal?

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>the quality of life in my country has drastically improved thanks to being a part of the EU and is projected to keep improving in the following years
>but muh nations, I will complain about it in a Chinese cartoons anonymous image board about it
Seriously don't you get bored of this? The EU is here to stay and to become more united, focus on other thing or your life will be shit.
Also thanks to the EU I'm going in Erasmus to your country and will brown your women

Very cool, but take the UK coat of arms and change it for the Scotland one.
It's also worth considering that Catalans would probably prefer to be directly a part of the USE than to be part of Spain and then part of the USE, so I will add something for them.

>You can't do that EVROPA! You're too strong!

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>be a nation
>share one language
>share culture
>tempered in blood
vs.
>faggy union with wonky criteria

>thanks to being a part of the EU
Thanks to being in the common market. Which is not the same thing and it's something that's detachable from the EU.
>The EU is here to stay and to become more united
Lol. Didn't you hear? Even the new German führer to be btfo Macron with his stupid ideas about further unionization.
>go to my country
I'm just looking forward to seeing you butthurt posting how incredibly backwards and nationalistic Czechs are

>>thanks to being a part of the EU
>Thanks to being in the common market. Which is not the same thing and it's something that's detachable from the EU.
The common market wouldn't exist without the EU.
>>The EU is here to stay and to become more united
>Lol. Didn't you hear? Even the new German führer to be btfo Macron with his stupid ideas about further unionization.
Wtf are you fucking trying to say?
>>go to my country
>I'm just looking forward to seeing you butthurt posting how incredibly backwards and nationalistic Czechs are
I won't be butthurt but probably laughing my ass off the same way I do with you here.
Also, women are nationalistic until they meet a MED BVLL

>giving away your sovereignty to germany and france is based!

>>be a nation
What about >not being a kingdom? Most nation states are extremely new. The concept of nation was born in the XIX century
>share one language
Not a thing in most nation-states at the beginning
>share culture
Extremely broad and undefined term
>tempered in blood
Each others blood in some cases. Not a point

Gott erhalte

melodrama

>The common market wouldn't exist without the EU.
BEEP. Wrong. It was already a part of the EEC.
>Wtf are you fucking trying to say?
That even the ever pro-European Germans are not on board with it
>laughing my ass off
Well, you might score some pink haired femoids with it, Don Čuan

No, most nation states were born in the 19th century but the concept of nations based on language for example is far older. Anyway, even though nations might be new, they are still older and far more established than the union of "We share democratic values we can't really agree about"

>No, most nation states were born in the 19th century but the concept of nations based on language for example is far older
Yes, and are often not respected today, with centralized nation states that erased regional culture and language. There are also nations that a share a language despite having different cultures. A nation is not defined by language
>Anyway, even though nations might be new, they are still older and far more established than the union of "We share democratic values we can't really agree about"
People probably said the same thing about young Italy or Germany. Again, not a point

>No, most nation states were born in the 19th century but the concept of nations based on language for example is far older. Anyway, even though nations might be new, they are still older and far more established than the union of "We share democratic values we can't really agree about"
Stupid logic. Nations are far more recent that any feudal kingdom or empire, why don't you call for Austria-Hungary to be back?

>BEEP. Wrong. It was already a part of the EEC.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Economic_Community
The EEC already has many things you complain about in the EU, like a Parliament, the Council and the Commission, the EEC wasn't what you want, the EU was a simple evolution of it, basically changing the name to reflect the situation of the EEC going beyond economy.
>That even the ever pro-European Germans are not on board with it
They aren't now, you can't just make USE happen overnight, but the EU is the perfect frame to work towards them, and many countries have shown themselves wanting to do the little steps like creating the EU army.
>Well, you might score some pink haired femoids with it, Don Čuan
No women resist the BMC.

>why don't you call for Austria-Hungary to be back?
Because it was a clusterfuck ruled by assholes. Very similar to the EU.
>probably said
It's you who has no point. And those people were right, even big nation states are bad news. But EU is even worse.
>EEC going beyond economy
Exactly what is wrong with the EU
>many countries
Source: my ass

>It's you who has no point. And those people were right, even big nation states are bad news. But EU is even worse.
So the nation-states you love so much were just a mistake? Lol

I'm ready to die for IMPERIVM EVROPA

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>>EEC going beyond economy
>Exactly what is wrong with the EU
But if the EEC weren't beyond economy, the free market couldn't be properly controlled, making many countries shy away from it.
Also, what you want is not something everyone wants except countries like USA who want to sell you chlorinated chicken.
>>many countries
>Source: my ass
Just check the news every now and then and you will see people talking about a united EU army and a minimum salary for all the EU, for example, I don't have time to do it for you.

>who want to sell you chlorinated chicken
How is that different from Poles trying to pass road salt as table salt or selling rotten meat?
>the free market couldn't be properly controlled
Don't want to be in free market? Don't. It's as simple as that. Every country would have to decide how much is it worth to them.
>people talking about a united EU army and a minimum salary
People are now Macron? Lol, why don't you ask the French what they think of that clown.

Schlomo supports this shit of a liberal federalized EU. It's a large step towards globalization and people like Soros support it.

>How is that different from Poles trying to pass road salt as table salt or selling rotten meat?
Because the EU makes it actually illegal and sanction them.
>Don't want to be in free market? Don't. It's as simple as that. Every country would have to decide how much is it worth to them.
You want balkanization basically and it's stupid because then USA, Russia and China would abuse you.
>People are now Macron? Lol, why don't you ask the French what they think of that clown.
It's not only Macron, but of course you don't want to accept reality and facts so whatever.

>Is there a pinoy version of Czechcasting
There is a SE Asian one but I'm at work so I'm not doing the dirty work of looking it up.

daily reminder Europe is one nation

middleeastmonitor.com/20190323-eu-will-not-follow-trumps-recognition-of-israel-sovereignty-in-golan-heights/

>Don't want to be in free market? Don't
How is that working for the UK?

Good luck with that, eurocucks

>sanction them
Lol. The EU is actually prohibiting us from doing proper checks on polish meat.
>USA, Russia and China would abuse you
The go-to scaremongering tactic. All things considered, I'll rather take my chances with the Americans than Franco-German cryptocontrol
>It's not only Macron
maybe a few other EU cronies whose job is dependent on Brussels

If anything, Brexit shows the necessity of dismantling the EU from inside to prevent revenge of eurocrats for leaving

>If anything, Brexit shows the necessity of dismantling the EU from inside to prevent revenge of eurocrats for leaving
Lmao what revenge precisely?

You're confusing Israel with the elite "lizard people" Jews. They have completely different objectives besides talking about the holocaust. The ones in Hollywood/media here usually bitch about Israel. Israel doesn't give a shit about refugees, political correctness and globalization.

Death to the EU

t.

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excluding the Brits from the common market with bs sovereignty reducing conditions

So they should be allowed in and have all the advantages of the EU for free? Not giving them everything for free for no reason would be a "revenge"?
You're living in your own world

>Lol. The EU is actually prohibiting us from doing proper checks on polish meat.
I don't see how that follows that because you are not allowed to shadow-ban all polish meat imports, Poland will not be sanctionned if they don't comply with the EC request.

>Lol. The EU is actually prohibiting us from doing proper checks on polish meat.
In a fully free market situation without an EU like institution you couldn't do any check on Polish meat because that goes against the free market.
The EU can do the proper checks by itself.
>The go-to scaremongering tactic. All things considered, I'll rather take my chances with the Americans than Franco-German cryptocontrol
So you prefer foreign countries to control you instead of being in a democratic institution that "controls" everyone equally, including Germany and France.
>maybe a few other EU cronies whose job is dependent on Brussels
Of course not, but you won't check it so at this point I don't know why I bother.

Notice the quote genuis. I wasn't the one who started talking about schlomo as some monolithic power. From having Jews in my country I know their various groups don't get along.

>The EU can do the proper checks by itself.
But doesn't and prohibits us from checking.> >being in a democratic institution that "controls" everyone equally, including Germany and France
Lol. Someone's been hitting the cool-aid lately. Macron has called the army to help with the protests. If that happened here or in poland or Hungary, it would be the headlines everywhere and strong letters of protest from everyone in the EU. France? Very democratic. Can't do no wrong. Protesters must be populists.
>you won't check it
You won't provide it

>But doesn't and prohibits us from checking
There is an audit currently going on, from March 25th to April 5th.

>Macron has called the army to help with the protests.
No, he didn't.

You mean the same protesters that were looting shops and almost burned down an house with a family inside?

france24.com/en/20190322-france-macron-risky-plan-army-streets-yellow-vests-protests-sentinelle

>were looting shops and almost burned down an house with a family inside?
Well I wonder what got them so rowdy

So since I don't like the government I can go loot random shops?
Cool

The EU is pointless without Russia. Russia needs Europe's minds,logistics,investments and agriculture and Europe needs Russia's military and resources. A EU with Russia would dwarf the US and China combined and that is why the eternal amerilard and the eternal chink are fetching them against each other while stealing their resources. The EU is just an anti-Russian coop and if Europeans want to prosper beyond believe they need to disband it or reform it to include Russia

This just meant that the military guarded public buildings, freeing police and gendarmerie personal so they could deal with the protesters. The army doesn't "help" dealing with the protesters.

>Well I wonder what got them so rowdy
Why don't you tell us

I'm honestly fine with all sorts of dystopian and authoritarian bullshit as long as europe is 100% white.

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based and Europilled

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Well, if the government is deadset on sacrificing your wages to feed its army of bureaucrats...

Frau mekerl ist neue reichprasident

But the gilets jaunes also want more gibs. Yet less taxes. But then you're gonna say they are not populists.

>competing with china and other rising super powers
I like how people take this as the end goal in and of itself without actually explaining why exactly shouldn't "Europe" just accept the patronage of a greater power like China or the US.

>we need to be powerful
Why? This isn't some strategy game.

t.

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We need to be powerful so we don't get forced into things we don't like, Chin Paw my eastern friend. If you like China so much you should go back. I actually like Europe.

Because greater powers always abuse it and the weak always end up with a bad deal. A 10 years old could have told you that

The less taxes part is decidedly not populist. The more gibs part is. But being a populist has been the go to label for anyone who dares to do what people actually want for once.

based

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>we don't get forced into things we don't like
You think China will do that but "Europe" won't? You're not one of the big players in Europe, user. You know very well what your European "brothers" did.

>greater powers always abuse it
Speaking from experience? What's the worse the US can do? It's actually been quite favorable for Western Europe these past decades but Westerners don't seem very grateful.
It seems to me West European don't want to be on the other side of the gun barrel and they still have delusion of being colonial powers.

>the less taxes part is decidedly not populist.
Tell me in your own words how lowering taxes isn't a populist demand
>what people actually want for once.
You mean irrealist crap?

>Speaking from experience?
What is that supposed to mean? Do you think you're talking to France as an immortal moral person and not some random french guy?

>It seems to me West European don't want to be on the other side of the gun barrel
So in your own word you do recognize that the weaks are at the mercy of the strong, but that it doesn't matter and you don't mind being weak because reasons?