What do people in your country think of Jordan B. Peterson?

I'm a Jow Forumstard but I can't imagine how autistic and cringe open alt-right people are, especially based on what you've said
Peterson is part of the problem

I feel bad for people who listen to perterson and zizek and somehow get enlightened by it.they just say shit that should come naturally and obvious to you as a child. Modern "philosophers" are trash

The debate format kinda sucked, it wasn't focused enough on the topic and they had little time to interact. Both, but especially JP was unfocused in addressing the prompt.

>I thought Zizek might be on to something when he talked about how China's basically on the path to total economic world domination by embracing capitalist free market principles while relying on a totalitarian government to prevent things like labor unions or social benefits from cropping up that could hinder productivity.

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In a country where everyone is either:

1. an immigrant from pakistan
or
2. a brainwashed millenial
or
3. a millionaire baby boomer

...he's a voice of reason and intellect. The immigrants all support the leftist socialist welfare lgpqrst+ state while the baby boomers
just want to see their real estate prices propped up until they're ready to downsize and retire. The millenials buy into it all as they spend most of their time being indoctrinated in our "universities"..

Everything looks like 'le nazi conservative' when you live Lenin's wet dream.

>I'm a Jow Forumstard
yikes

His voice is really nice to listen to, even if he sounds like kermit the frog. It's pretty weird.

Dude, you really should leave your home and make actual friends. Most millennials and gen z are only pretending they're cool with everything but once you become friends and hear unfiltered opinions it's basically all anger and sense of injustice. If anything, universities actually make young people become even more right wing.

To the thread- I don't care much about his politics, but I've seen a few of his lectures and he makes a lot of sense, very informative, and clear. A smart individual who has something to say is always appreciated in my book

A good psychologist and personal trainer with proven and field tested methods
A mediocre theorist that is worshiped for his clear cut ideas, despite them being often falsely dichotomous

>99.99% have no clue of Jow Forums.
>99.98% have no clue of reddit.
>they only watch music and cooking shit on youtube
Well that's about it.

Zizek is funnier and more insightful than beterson can ever hope to be

Normies don't see how he is controlled by jews thats for sure.

>yikes
cringe

>universities actually make young people become even more right wing
lol

They're the different buzzwords with the same meaning

I don't think that being funny is a plus when you're trying to be serious and intellectual, debate or generate knowledge as these two intend

How do you define 'normie'?

Universities don't make people lean to the right per se. Finding out that some degrees are as useless as used toilet paper when it comes to attaining a decent paying job or at least some useful real-world skills does

Both guys are okay. Polite and well informed. Peterson more than Zizek, though, particularly because he's more pragmatic and less idealistic. Let's hope he stays that way as he grows older, unlike Jean Jacques Rousseau

expected as much from a dumb fucking Jow Forumstard

who is he? I keep hearing about him but I have no clue. Would he fit in with the Jow Forums crowd or reddit crowd?

Wit and humour is how zizek constructs a case, beterson is nothing but seethe and sadness

Jow Forums seems to think he's controlled by da joos. Blue checkmarks think he's a nazi. He's Reddit's man through and through.

He's a clinical psychology and a professor, all he does is kinda just say how some modern "progressive" movements have gone too far as to cause negative impacts like restricting free speech, getting people arrested/sued for no reason and how that impacts general society and the people living in it.

A lot of people who go to his shows don't even entirely agree with all his points, but for the most part, he has clear, valid points and doesn't reeee people down in the street with a crowd of chanting protesters, which is enough for most to tolerate him.

>universities actually make young people become even more right wing.

sorry newfag you got a long way to go

looks like he's in a rap battle

He's a lousy psychology professor/self help guy who got famous by misconstruing (perhaps on purpose) what some canadian law meant and has overstayed his welcome. He has no idea what he's talking about when it comes to anything but psychoanalysis and hides this under meaningless word salad. 20 year old boomers eat it up like cake.

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>Peterson more than Zizek, though
cringe

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A fucking hack and national embarrassment after yesterday. He has some cultist though, as you can see.

>Macedonia
Cringe

The french media depicts him as a radical right wing brain washing guru and since people never heard of him here they believe the media.

That's a pretty good sum up

Among most Canadians, stupid pseudointellectual who talks about shit he doesn't understand (he got btfo by actual law professors on the bill nonsense), talks down about other professors despite actual scientists and psychologists with actual knowledge in neuroscience calling his work pseudoscience garbage. his fanbase is almost entirely because he started appealing to the niche alt right audience on subjects they know almost nothing on.

by the way i knew half the people in the background; i was in his undergrad and now a first year lawyer lmao.

He's only popular among insecure dudes who overreact to everything.

He seems to be a good psychologist and teacher. He's hardcore Jungian tho, which I think has no scientific merit whatsoever. Also he says a lot of dumb/incorrect shit when not talking outside his field of study.

By the way the fucking moron is the reason why we have all these hyperventilating poltards thinking Canada is a dystopian PC country where kids are rounded up and sent to gender reassignment camp.

Dude somehow thinks our political and legal system behaves in this way.

he is a fucking white helping another whites. so his white advice doesnt apply to me.

He's a dude who identified a market, that market being lonely young adults with no father figure.

I have a brother who has an interest in the clown and sometimes brings up Jow Forumsshit over email, etc. To be honest, it makes me think less of him as a person but I can see how Peterson, et al., find a natural acceptance with his extremely self centred and generally empathy lacking outlook on life.
It is hard to accept that your own flesh and blood are still just normalfags at the end of the day. (´・ω・｀)

I'm not sure of his recent comments but he had a big brown following because of things he would say like "marginalization and so-on of minority males leads them to react" or whatever against society and basically said what leftist sociologists said about black crime; where a system that suppresses them economically leads them to take up crime and counter-societal habits because they won't be accepted into society.

He changes his views like every ten minutes though and for all I know could just be repeating alt-right stuff. Don't really care to look.

>Would he fit in with the Jow Forums crowd or reddit crowd?
Is there a difference?

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By Brown I mean lots of South Asian dudes. Half his backers are brown in that pic.

he waddles between some weird fucking line of philosophical boomer nonsense. Last I check he had a mail-order Russian bride (yes, Literally) and is a secret orthodox.

In my country, he is hero against feminazi

Piss off gaijin cunt.

I know Zizek but hadn't really heard about this Peterson fella before the debate. Seems like a nice dude but didn't really prepare for the discussion so Zizek was allowed run rambling laps around him.

I believe whatever a white does only benefits other whites.
nothing was ever made by whites to benefit non-whites.

He says he's classical liberal, he's more conservative though, nothing wrong with it but it's pretty obvious

idk but i heard that nigga got dunked on hard by that nigga zizek

literally who

Self-help guy that anglos worship

Nobody ever heard of him until the debate and now he'll be known as some hack who was in a debate with our national treasure

They don’t.

He's definitely smart, but to be quite honest I just can't be assed to look into his stuff because I don't need a Canadian surrogate dad to tell me to wear matching socks every day.

Imagine unironically paying 1 000$ to go see a JP debate

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>Non-economists debating capitalism
>philosophers and psychologists discussing economics

Yikes from me

is he even known Jow Forumsernationally

YYYYYYYYYYYYIKES!

So I guess the kind of mentally ill attitudes that Peterson rails against actually do exist in the wild. Sp00py.

>classical liberal
can this meme finally end? this is just a snakey way for ringht wing conservatives to not have to come out of the closet.

He’s ignored luckily

Why is he surrounded by non-whites?

The "wash your penis" guy? I guess that penis-washing is decent advice.

He has no clue about psychoanalyst just psychology

cringe

jew puppet

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>peterson
>alt-right
Your brother is a mainstream center-right conservative.

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>centre-right
No.

Some of the normies I've talked to about him irl think he's just saying common sense stuff and think he makes a lot of sense, most of what he says is not even that controversial.

Yes.

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He is not an anti-semite. He doesn't give a shit.

And Jews are objectively better masters than low iq flat earth ancient alien nazis.

A meme.

So this is the newest tactic of the far right is it? Appeal to the inherent reactionary nature of many of Peterson's young, impressionable followers at this time of him being "btfo" and try to radicalize them more while also trying to legitimize other far-right movements.

Literally the same tactics as islamic terrorists. I don't know if you think of yourself as such, but you are an extremist. You do your thing, keyboard warrior, I hope you're enjoying spending your life in this fruitless culture war while the rich sap all the wealth and influence from us all.

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I thought it wasn't released yet. Shill much?

You're looking too deep into it. It's just jobless Jow Forumstards shitposting.

Peterson has been exposed as someone who has no real education in political theory. I am actually amazed there are people who watched this debate and think Peterson managed even the bare minimum of understanding of both Marxist theory and the historical realities of capitalist dynamics.
1) Anyone who has a basic understanding of Marx could have given as good or better of a rundown and critique of the Communist Manifesto that Peterson gave.
2) No serious Marxist reads the meme pamphlet Marx wrote for uneducated workers, it's not an academic source, it's a propaganda piece.
3) Peterson, although claiming to have read and understood at least a modicum of Zizek's works, was not able to produce a single meaningful critique of his theory, even going so far as to be impressed with Zizek's take on Christianity
3a) Peterson is in many ways a scholar of religion, in particular Judeo-Christianity; he also critiques Marxism for being an athiest doctrine which rejects these principles. So if Peterson had done so much as read Zizek's wiki article, let alone read one of his books on Christianity, he would have known this position and not been impressed by it. Incredible lack of research.
4) Peterson did not stick to his position that Marxism was bad, instead retreating to a simple repetition of individualism
5) Peterson hasn't read Critique of the Gotha program which is shorter than the Manifesto and much more important (reminder this intellectual has been arguing against the evils of Marx for decades and hasn't even read him in any meaningful sense since he was 18).
6) By the end, Peterson wasn't even able to formulate an argument against the form of Marxism which Zizek promotes. His only point to the debate which had any relevance was to point out Capitalism's productive force, a fact that he also admits Marx agrees with and discusses at length in the Manifesto.
7) Peterson being pressed on and subsequently not able to name a single postmodern neomarxist needs no explication.

He's a university professor using free speech as a shield to protect his sexist beliefs. Also he goes full retard when it comes to religion; he redefines everything until all of his religious claims are tautology.

he almost literally said that he didn't do his homework and he didn't have time to read das kapital so he read the manifesto instead

peterson has always been hated by the far right. you're just gnawing at the window trying to push it even further left.

Peterson is a normalfag conservative trying to peddle his mediocre books. I don't think he's ever said something extreme, it's just the purple hair brigade who get upset by his common sense christcuck self help bullshit.

>You're looking too deep into it. It's just jobless Jow Forumstards shitposting.
No. There are very clever people who make these kinds of images and spread them at opportune times. And then jobless Jow Forumstards spread this stuff without realising they've bought into the newest form of far-right propaganda and are also now spreading it. It's not an organised effort, it's a bunch of people being manipulated into catching as many people as possible into being radicalized.

This article (yes, I know, huffington post but read it) talks about the handbook which gives tactics some people from the daily stormer use when trying to spread their message online.
huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/daily-stormer-nazi-style-guide_n_5a2ece19e4b0ce3b344492f2

Ok well even if he has always been hated by the far right, then they're just taking this opportunity to do exactly as I said and radicalize some of his followers.

>collectivism is bad except when the blacks, asians, gays, hispanics, Inidians(sic), females, and jews do it
When has he EVER said or just implied anything even REMOTELY resembling this?

Are you mad that he called your ilk “pathetic weasels”? Is that at the root behind these lies?

How is that an excuse? This faggot has been critiquing Marxism for years, maybe even decades, and he hasn't even made an effort to read the Critique of the Gotha Program, let alone some of Marx' longer works. He's been maundering about le Cultural Marxism for God knows how long but couldn't name a single C. Marxist. Also, you can't read the Manifesto INSTEAD of Das Kapital. Manifesto Is literally a propaganda pamphlet, not a theoretical work.

The absolute state of contemporary intellectuals.

KRINSCH, Sören, KRINSCH.

didn't mean that as an excuse I meant it as a criticism

These kinds of memes have been on all the Jow Forumss ever since peterson became famous. He is seen as a pressure valve, somebody being deliberately pushed to prevent young white males from getting overly radicalized by addressing some of their grievances without letting ideas like jews or racial identity take root.

35 year old boomers hate him
I personally am a huge fan of his youtube series on psychology and genesis, however his self-help stuff gets boring pretty fast

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>Argentinian flag
>Hi ex Marxist here

That's fine. I'm willing to believe the far right has always hated him and always hated these memes. It still doesn't change what I've said, and I've never seen these right wing anti-Peterson memes on Jow Forums ever before. So they are currently taking this opportunity to try and get some new converts.

what's up with che and really obvious sarcasm?

>and always hated these memes
always had**

But yes I can totally see how you are correct. But I still believe I'm correct too.

Chad Žižek vs virgin peterson

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I've tried to read a good chunk of Das Kapital and it's mind-numbingly boring. Just pages and pages of theorising about clothes factories and bitching about mild-mannered political economists, "Herr Ricardo believes that use-value is prima facie independent of exchange-value; how in err he is!" etc