publish the parliament of your country.
> senate
purple: center-left (formerly left pro-Castro)
gray: center.
blue: center right-right
red: right (formerly military civic)
Publish the parliament of your country
Thomas Gray
Julian Baker
> representants
the other parties do not have ideology. defined and only join with others so that their members get benefits
Mason Jackson
House of Representatives - 235 Democrats, 197 Republicans, 3 Vacant
Senate - 53 Republicans, 45 Democrats, and 2 Independents that vote with the Democrats
And for my state (New York):
Assembly - 106 Democrats, 43 Republicans, and 1 member of the Independence Party
Senate - 39 Democrats, 23 Republicans and one Democrat that votes with the Republicans
Thomas James
This is what the knesset will look like later this month after the elections
>Labor getting absolutely btfo
Lucas Anderson
Our current house of commons
Red are Liberals under Justin Trudeau
Blue are Tories under Andrew Scheer
Orange are New Democratic Party under Jagmert Singh
Light blue is Bloc Québécois undrr Yves Perron
Green are Green Party under Elizabeth May
Beige are Cooperative Commonwealth Federation under nobody
Purple are People's Party under Maxime Bernier
Grey are independents
White are vacant seats
Landon Mitchell
From left to right:
>Red: Partito Democratico, your average center-left liberal party
>Grey: mixed group
>Yellow: Five Stars, not even they know what side they are. Currently allied with Lega. Their main policy is increased welfare and lowered corruption
>Azure: Forza Italia, the Berlusconi boys. Center-right
>Blue: Fratelli d'Italia. Far right and traditionalists mostly. Critical of the current government
>Green: Lega, right. Currently in a coalition government with Five Stars despite their vast differences. Their many policies are a stop on immigration, lower taxes for businesses and entrepreneurs and a pro-guns approach to self-defense
It's important to note that if elections were to be held now Lega and Five Stars would probably be inverted, as the latter suffered something like a 10% loss in the polls to the benefit of the former, who's now the major party
Jason Nguyen
And our current upper house
58 from the Independent Senator's Group
31 Tories
9 Liberals
7 independents
The Right Honourable Justin Pierre James Trudeau, PC, MP, is Prime Minister
The Honourable George J. Furey, QC, is speaker of the senate
The Honorable Geoffrey Paul Regan, PC, MP, is speaker of the house of commons
Her Excellencythe Right Honourable Julie Payette, CC,CMM,COM,CQ, CD, is Governor General
Her MajestyElizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom, Canada and Her other Realms and Territories Queen, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith is Monarch and therefore head of state
Hudson Ward
Can someone explain to me why some countries have upper and 'lower' houses?
What purposes do they serve in relation to each other? why not just use the one parliament?
Thomas Jones
No reason really
We adopted the double houses system after fascism when everyone was concerned about a return of dictatorships. It basically means that every law must be adopted by both the houses so in theory it would be harder to push laws through. In practice it means every law takes ages to be adopted
Noah Roberts
My province currently
22 seats for the Progressive Conservative Party under Premier Blain Higgs supported for at least 18 months by 3 seats from the People's Alliance Party (they did not have enough sears on their own to form a government).
In opposition are 21 Liberal seats under nobody but will likely be Kevin Vickers since the only other person running was a French national and not yet a Canadian citizen and 3 Green Party seats under David Coon.
Kevin Vickers was the sergeant-at-arms who used an automatic handgun to kill a parliament terrorist Hollywood style a few years back.
Her Honourthe Honourable Jocelyne Roy-Vienneau, ONB is Lieutenant Governor
Alexander Murphy
But if a fascist party gets enough votes to have enough sits to be a big party wouldn't it also mean they'd be in the upper house?
Making the double houses system a huge waste of resources, time and money with basically no benefit?
Owen Hernandez
In the US, it was part of a compromise.
>bigger states wanted representation based on population (the Virginia Plan)
>smaller states equal representation (the Massachusetts Plan)
So now the US Senate has 2 Senators for each state, and the House of Representatives is population-based (the New Jersey Compromise).
Burgerstan is a big country, and being a democratic republic (NOT a democracy), we try to ensure there isn't tyranny of the majority. It's so you don't get fucked over for being outnumbered.
Josiah Baker
For British systems it started when the nobility and powerful clergy wanted a say in the running of their country, so they formed a house of lords. Later the common people also wanted a say and so a house of commons was started.
In Canada we have too few hereditary lords to form a house so our upper house is a Senate, the senators are appointed originally for life but now until age 75 I think since no one wants elderly people that can't be removed making decisions. In Australia and the USA they elect senators for a relatively short term.
House of commons are of course elected, usually for something around 4 years barring any special circumstances.
Samuel Edwards
Point is a fascist party (which is banned, anyway) could probably sway one chamber but not both
Idk, it's retarded
Christian Smith
>conservatives
Neoliberal cunts, can't agree on brexit
>DUP
Represents NIs protestant community, retards think they are based but they only really care about getting gibs for NI
>Labour
Mixture of Neolibs and as actual socialists , can't agree on brexit., Corbyn is for it but most of the parliamentary party are against it
>SNP
Left wing """Scottish"""" """""nationalists"""""", rabidly anti brexit
>Lib Dems
Total meme nowdays , same socially of labor but want lower taxes than them and rabidly anti brexit
>TIG
anti brexit allince of former labour and Tory MPs
>Plaid Crymu
Welsh party, fuck knows what they actually stand for
>Seinn Grimm
Irish Republicans, do not take seats in the commons as they do not view it as a legitimate institution
>Green party
Homosexual refugee huggers
Brandon Butler
United Russia: Putin, conservatism, statism.
***Liberal*** ***Democratic*** party: nationalism, conservatism, fascism, Pan-Slavism, monarchism, etc.
Communist party: marxism-leninis, Soviet nostalgia.
A Just Russia: social democracy.
Civic Platform: liberalism
Rodina: nationalism
Nolan Young
So a relic of ancient politics that no longer applies? sure sounds british, and I believe it.
Well, you don't sway chambers or even individuals in chambers, you sway parties, and I assume all party members vote the same unless that individual wants to commit political suicide.
So by that logic if a fascist party gets party A on their side in the common house there's no reason party A won't extend that support to the upper house.
Unless of course as part of a deal party A will promise to promote a policy only in the lower house, which party A won't promote in the upper house but still leaves the hypothetical fascist party some hope that they might still sway enough people in their favor in the upper house.
Which, now that I think about it, is probably exactly why it's still around, so parties have an option to say "maybe" instead of just a "yes" or a "no".
>and being a democratic republic (NOT a democracy)
I've heard this meme from Americans when I was in Japan and I honestly thought they were just retards, holy shit.
Out of morbid curiosity, why on earth would you think the USA isn't a democracy? the status of "republic" doesn't change how democratic a country is.
Austin Ramirez
there isnt a clear outcome yet.
but its mostly christian democratics but now with some new-right movement and more representation for the green party
Aiden Wright
>Out of morbid curiosity, why on earth would you think the USA isn't a democracy? the status of "republic" doesn't change how democratic a country is.
We don't have a strictly majoritarian system. The idea is to give people from every part of the country a fair shake. It's so a stockbroker in San Francisco can't dictate how a farmer in Kansas should live his life, and vice-versa. Each state and voting bloc has things that affect them that other's don't give a shit about.
James Long
We're having elections this month though
Gavin Lopez
I guarantee if the election went the other way with Hillary winning but trump having the popular vote you would all be demanding a popular voting system
Luis Perez
>a relic of ancient politics that no longer applies
It does still apply and is quite effective. In any democracy you want politicians that are elected and represent the voice of the people in their constituency. The problem with this is that it is subject to populism and votes from idiots or misinformed persons. America, Australia, et al., might disagree but to overcome these problems another house that is appointed for life can be very effective. Their power does not rely on populism or trendy politics
Isaiah Ross
Well I know that, but 'democracy' doesn't refer exclusively to proportional representation democracy, it's democracy even if it's a system where a person from a lower population state has more "voting power" that one from a higher population state.
The same way it's still a democracy if it's a system where people from higher castes have more "voting power" than people in lower castes.
Democracy means that the house(s), government and head of state are determined by the populations vote, regardless of how specifically those votes behave, you get to vote, a party's power is determined by how many people voted for it (even if it goes through a labyrinth of gerrymandering and state representatives), it's a democracy.
Neither the democrats nor the republicans would ever push to change the system, because with the system as it is now the worst than can happen to any of the big two is that they're in second place, if the system changes to, say, proportional representation, they only stand to lose power.
so who nominates people to an upper house?
Elijah Cox
Nur-Otan(aka Nazarbaev party) - the one and only ruling party. Ideology-wise thy are centrists with a very slight lean on the right, and apparently Wikipedia gives them “secularism” as on of the main policies.
Ak zhol - all the democrats who hadn’t been killed or fled the country. Nowadays just a sidekick to Nur Otan.
Communists - nostalgia party, sometimes promote welfare and shit.
Joseph Hill
The Prime Minister nominates them, it's up to the Governor General (viceroyal on behalf of the Queen) to decide whether or not they are appointed. Since they are unelected and can't be sacked or dismissed from the caucus they are not beholden to the PM or party after apppointment and all votes are conscience votes.
Since 2016 a bipartisan agreement was reached that says in order to be appointed a senator needs to agree to be bipartisan and independent. Hence the 58 Independent Senator's Group seats mentioned here
James Scott
>Religious parties got 16 seats
It's only going to get worse
Nicholas Fisher
Quick rundown please, what's so bad about them? Do they want to install Jewish shariah law ?
Gavin Anderson
I'm retarded, it's actually 21
Pretty much
They're also the reason netanyahu keeps winning
He's willing to negotiate with them, and the left+arab bloc is too small for a coalition
Robert Diaz
Fidesz (Alliance of young democrats) - King Orbán's party
KDNP - Christian Democratic People's party (not a real party desu, it's fidesz' little bro)
Germany minority- DAS REICH
Jobbik - ex-neonazi, nobody knows what are they now
MSZP - Hungarian Socialsit Party. Literal retards
Dialouge - Literal retards who are not the MSZP, but still
DK - Personal party of the infamous previous PM. They are Atlantist bootlickers.
LMP - Politics can be different. Bunch of green retards and feminists, still the most intellegint among the opposition
MLP - Hugnarian Liberal Party. Literal retards again
Jeremiah Wright
up
David Peterson
>Do they want to install Jewish shariah law ?
sort of? they reject any policy which violates Jewish religious law and protect the interests of the ultra religious community.
For example, they're fiercely opposed to road and rail maintenance work being done on Saturday as well as any form of public transport whatsoever (including private) on Saturday, they support mandatory closing of all non crucial establishments on Saturday, GRAVELY opposed to conscription for yeshiva students (pro tip; all of them are yeshiva students), often drawing comparisons between conscription to the holocaust as befitting the stereotype and generally support Jewish customs and rules to be official policy.
They're kind of dicks and the head of shas is back in the knesset after literally being in jail for corruption while he was in the knesset.
Aaron Long
Wasn't Orban a liberal back in the times?
Gabriel Gomez
Yeah 40 years ago. Then he switched like 35 years ago