How Poland was able to manage better than Russia?
How Poland was able to manage better than Russia?
Colton Nelson
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Landon Bell
It couldn't get any worse.
Colton Fisher
Thanks to the European Union
Jace Brooks
Manage in what? If Poland had thousands nukes and army strong enough to kick out American influence from Syria and Venezuela, then we could say that we can compare ourselves to Russia.
Dominic Fisher
Because poland is further from russia than russia itself.
The closer you get to russia, the worse it gets.
Owen Sanchez
EU money
Cooper Rogers
Russia's gold reserves are already bigger than Poland's GDP. We will see how much these euro-bucks will be worth when eurozone falls apart, which is inevitable and only a matter of time, kek.
Jacob Kelly
Look closer. It's a Ukraine who is the center of suffering
Mason Sanders
Modern countries don't need nukes or tanks or whatever army
Josiah Howard
>Modern countries don't need nukes or tanks or whatever army
Only when big boy USA sets the rules and these rules are respected by all players in the world because they are afraid of the USA's strenght. Problems begin when the big boy loses his strenght in function of time, and rules he set become worthless and players begin to respect them only in such aspects that serve their interests. If this happens, all of a sudden such things like army and nukes become crucial for survival. And we just entered such period of time.
Dylan Flores
>gold reserves
You mean that thing which dissapears into elite's safes on day one when shit goes down? Completely irrelevant with our fiat currencies. Doesnt matter if its ruble, zloty, koruna, euro or dollar. They are all only as valuable as the citizens believe it.
Oh you mean the ukraine did all the horrors of wars to itself during ww2? And then the communism, that was also their doing? And that their "democratically voted president" actually won the elections?
There is a reason why ukraine never entered NATO nor EU. You wont let them. Its russias buffer state.
Brayden Rodriguez
>And then the communism, that was also their doing?
Yes. Google Troskiy, Khrushev, Brezhnev. Once real Russian became president (Gorbachov) everything goes in the right direction. Democracy, freedom of speech, freedom to the satellites (gdr, you cunt, poland, hungary etc)
Ryder Hernandez
Fiat currencies have one thing in common: all of them were historically going through periods of hyperinflation, and literally nothing suggests that such things can't happen in the future again. Maybe this time central banks manage to change hyperinflation into crawling hyperinflation using syndrome of boiled frog: instead of turning system upside down, you just somalize it slowly: in result people have more papers on their bank accounts but can buy less for them, so nominally they become "richer" but in real life categories they become poorer. That's what is becoming to fiat currencies nowadays. I personally invested my savings into gold (physical one, not exchange-gold-papers) and cryptocurrencies. First one gives me safety, second one works for me.
Matthew Russell
less centralism
centralism is what kills Russia, marble sidewalks in Moscow, while people are starving in Podmoskove
Adam Perez
If you want peace, prepare for war
Kevin White
Will you also say that ukraine lost krimea because of ukraians?
Good for you i guess. I dont plan getting rich anytime soon so i am not troubled by possibilities of losing capital. If i would invest, i would buy property to rent it.
Blake Russell
Ukrainians did nothing to stop it. Why? Because they are evil and care only about themselves
Oliver Davis
>i would buy property to rent it.
The biggest problem about property is that it is immobile. It means that its value is completely dependent on external factors that surround it such as government's regulations, property laws, such loan-pumped crisises like 2007/2008, political circumstances, wars and so on and so forth. Despite a common belief, they are a very risky asset to invest your money into, especially when you live in such region like Central-Eastern Europe being placed exactly in the center of imperial crash-zones.
Hudson Hughes
They live next to Germany.
Michael Miller
>The biggest problem about property is that it is immobile. It means that its value is completely dependent on external factors that surround it such as government's regulations, property laws, such loan-pumped crisises like 2007/2008, political circumstances, wars and so on and so forth. Despite a common belief, they are a very risky asset to invest your money into, especially when you live in such region like Central-Eastern Europe being placed exactly in the center of imperial crash-zones.
Moreover, i think that current period is a price-bubble on property, which must burst painfully at least here in Poland due to demographics. Supply of houses/flats is going to surpass number of people willing to buy them in a decade or two, hence i think that buying a flat/house today is an imbecilism, and buying it with using a bank loan is a megaimbecilism, because interest rates can go to heaven anytime in result of some crisis, which becomes more and more probable, and you find yourself unable to pay installments.
Leo Gonzalez
>external factors that surround it
Funny. You can say same thing about gold or bitcoin. Its all dependent if there will be another war where USA nukes everybody to oblivion or not.
Jace Foster
>le gibs meme
Wyatt Howard
Gold and bitcoin are mobile. I can always escape with these assets to any country i want and i will be able to support myself from them.
Nicholas Wright
>Moreover, i think that current period is a price-bubble on property,
Yeah, I keep hearing it for years but the prices only grow.
Cooper Baker
Who is responsible for Poland's economical miracle? 20 years ago it was a regular eastern block commie shithole, now it looks like a wealthy western european country in addition it is 100% white and doesn't allow monkey niggers.
Jonathan Richardson
Well, it is partially true. Praise to us is for using the money for what we said we will spend it on and on proving it.
Julian Martin
yeah, I'm genuinely proud of our suburbs and the bunch of seething haters can't do anything.
Robert Thompson
it still is communist shithole
earnings in Poland are five times smaller than in Germany. Poland has no economy as all state factories and infrastructure was sold to german or french investors. In the long term we're fucked.
Josiah Sullivan
poland opened itself to the west and its money while russia closed itself
they didnt have to maintain the imagine of a world power either
Carter Parker
Poland is a peripheral, client and subcontracting mini-economy of Germany. Just like mini-economies of such countries like Czech Republic, Hungary, Slovakia. We just live from producing things for German economy for low prices. Just wait for the day when German economy stops working properly, there will be nothing left from this "miracle", which is just an artificial pump. Poland's and Russia's economies are similarily low-tech and irrelevant on the global stage, but at least Russia has a huge military industry and can push its foreign policies with using brutal power, while Poland is deprived of such ability to care about its interests so it is going to be drained even more in the future by stronger players, including even Russia, probably
Adrian Wilson
I am genuinely proud of having the best American Football League in Europe, thank you EU.
Isaiah Powell
>Yeah, I keep hearing it for years but the prices only grow.
I already said that the bubble is going to burst after a decade or two due to demographic processes.
Parker Brown
Big players play the game, we only want peace
Joseph Anderson
That's why i think that if you want to buy a house, you should wait 10-20 years with this decision and if you want to sell a house, you should do it now
Joseph Thomas
> korzinochkas
actually believe that
Blake Miller
it's amazing what terrorizing the terrorists can get you, huh Ivan?
Isaac Taylor
proximity to better countries;
by virtue of being an EU member:
tariffs free trade with the same;
access to development funds;
being able to offload unemployment due to the freedom of movement;
ethnically homogeneous country so no significant political instability to scare investors off;
a medium sized market;
If it wasn't for typical eastern european corruption they would have been even better.
Asher Foster
>That's why i think that if you want to buy a house, you should wait 10-20 years with this decision
yeah, and keep paying rent for 20 years (so basically lose this money forever) because maybe in 20 years the prices will drop by 30%, great idea
Matthew Martinez
>Fyromboi talking about corruption
Hudson Cooper
More Germanic admixture obviously.
Jacob Morris
>yeah, and keep paying rent for 20 years
I bought a tiny flat with 1 room from a guy who was a member of TBS program, and i spent 120k zł on it. If i wanted to buy a standard flat, i would need to pay 3x more. I can afford it but i didn't want to lose my money. If i ever will be forced to sell my flat for lower money, i won't lose much and since i don't have kids and wife and plan to live alone, such plan is perfect for me
Logan Kelly
Have you heard about economist joke about turkey(animal)? One economist said it, i can't find it, so i will try to recollect.
Turkey gets fed and visited every time by it's owner, therefore the turkey thinks that its owner will love it forever. But then, one day, owner comes into turkey's barn, pick it by the neck and drags it into slaighterhouse.
Is Poland really depent on EU gibs? Like, what % of your GDP is gibs by Merkel?
The problem is the Kapital has merged with the state. That is why people should vote for libertrianism/minarchism. Individual freedoms are shrinking every year all around the globe. (cato.org
Mason Johnson
I can see you are making same mistake as usa: you dont put commercial zones into your suburbs.
Levi Cooper
>*slaughterhouse
>*Is Poland really DEPENDANT FROM
Daniel Russell
its not dependent on the funds its dependent on german exports
germany exports more, entire central europe can produce more german shit that they can export
thats why we fell really hard in 2008
Jonathan Gomez
>I bought a tiny flat with 1 room from a guy who was a member of TBS program, and i spent 120k zł on it. If i wanted to buy a standard flat, i would need to pay 3x more. I can afford it but i didn't want to lose my money. If i ever will be forced to sell my flat for lower money, i won't lose much and since i don't have kids and wife and plan to live alone, such plan is perfect for me
So you will live for 20 years in a shitty, small flat because you want to save 30% in 2037? You have only one life, what's the point of saving money this way, that lowers your quality of life?
>I can afford it but i didn't want to lose my money.
So what do you do with this money?
Sebastian Peterson
>Big players play the game, we only want peace
Yeah, but the problem is that empires don't want the same. When the USA realized that Soviet Union already has so many nukes that nuclear war can't be won, it changed the military doctrine. McNamara created doctrine of "flexible response". If you remove all technical and ideological burden, this doctrine can be summarized in few words. In sum, the USA and Russia agree in light of this doctrine that they rule out direct war between each other and instead they switch to "flexible response" which is just a code-word for proxy wars, using territories and populations of other countries as cannon fodder in geopolitical competition. Vietnam was actually a major victim of this doctrine.
When Russian diplomatic stuff tweeted that the USA is ready to fight Russia to the last Pole, it wasn't only a joke, as a matter of fact. And our traitorous and dumb "elite" of foreign agents only make this perspective closer instead of putting money into our own military industry, our own nuclear weapon and instead of developing wise and flexible foreign policy that could make better use of our geostrategic location
Tyler Reed
Gibs and willingness to reform/
Jack Harris
>So you will live for 20 years in a shitty, small flat because you want to save 30% in 2037?
You can be very surprised how many things can happen in few years, not to mention 20, especially now when the post-war and post-cold-war global order is being resetted.
Juan Phillips
and? if something like WW3 happens your savings won't be worth anything either, you'll get nuked before you even realize the war has started
Austin Lewis
Global armageddon won't happen, because big players lose on it. Bad things, and probably in a limited edition, can happen only in such countries like Poland: with a joke of an army, without nukes and sold elites serving as a tool of imperial policy of fading empire placed thousands killometers from here
Aiden Brown
And we're talking about Poland, no one in the world will care if it gets nuked, so I ask again - what's the point of living in dire conditions and saving money for decades you won't be even able to spend? Just enjoy your life as long as you can.
William Edwards
Why do you even bother arguing with subhuman russhits? Do you argue with your dog after he eats your sandwich too? Appreciate your effort but seriously save your energy and time for actual human beings
Jonathan Baker
I like Poland that's why i live here. Reducing possible risks doesn't need to mean living badly. I am actually happy about having small flat because i spend less money on cleaning it and making it warm during winter periods, and i can spend saved money on entertainments
Brandon King
>I am actually happy about having small flat because i spend less money on cleaning it and making it war during winter periods, and i can spend saved money on entertainments
Ok, but arguments like 'wait 20 years the prices will go down for sure' are kinda stupid for most of people since most of people want to live in normal conditions now, they don't want to wait for decades to start living like actual human beings. Especially if we're talking about people who have to rent (most of young Poles).
Christian Russell
If you need a new flat, you should buy it. But if you don't need a flat now and can wait, you should wait, because the price of property is a bubble, despite all these things you hear on TV and financial advisors. They are paid to say otherwise. It is last period for developers to earn fortune before demographic crisis which is going to make them bankrupt
Landon Phillips
They got germanized to some extent over the centuries, thus they are racially superior to other Slavs.
Evan Robinson
fpbp
checked
Benjamin Garcia
It is easier to manage small countries rather than large ones. Look for instance at Estonia or Slovenia, their level of life is better than other post communist countries only because their population is very small. Also, bordering Germany helps a lot.
Sebastian Carter
no, it was thanks to nato and america which provided us with stability which is one the key prerequisites for economic growth
stop flattering yourselves, you nigger-importing kikes
you are literally the jannies of the eu, and i say fuck you, and fuck your shit
Parker Walker
Well i am part of the
>weak men create hard times
So i dont see russians as dogs, rather as people with altered history books in schools and different view of happenings from their local media.
You on other hand are still probably stucked in the generation
>strong men create comfy times
so your AK is probably ready to go at any sight of russian soldier tourists...
Also if you ever decide it isnt worth it anymore, feel free to come here. We have massive shortage of workers, we will employ even dudes without a single paper to their name. Majority of your people are already here.
Cameron Phillips
>bydlo rage
you aint better than russian orcs
Jacob Nguyen
EU investments
Julian King
The USA didn't do this out of "good will" but only to protect itself. Western Europe was weakened by WW2, so it was unable to protect itself from Soviet Union at the time, and if the Soviet Union managed to dominate Europe, it would directly endanger existence of the USA. That's why they put their weight into defending Europe. They did this out of well-calculated particular interest to save themselves from opponent who would dominate whole Eurasia and its human and natural resources as well as trade routes. Today such danger doesn't exist for the USA, Russia can dominate maybe Poland or Czech Republic, but surely not whole Western Europe, that's why i think that current political elite of Poland deserves a rope. Our only way to survive as a country and nation is to develop nuclear weapon and show the world that we are ready to use it if somebody dares to fuck with us. It is not a magic knowledge, it is an old technology that doesn't develop significantly for decades. I was shocked myself when i realized that you can create a small nuclear device in your basement with equipment for less than 10k $. So producing such thing on incomparably bigger scale for a country with 40 mln citizens and 15 bln dollar military budget wouldn't be even paiful. Nuclear technologies and all kinds of weapon of mass destruction should be open sourced and easily accesible for everyone - just like we set new currencies like bitcoin when we stop beliving in major fiat currencies, the same way we should create and trade with nuclear technologies when we stop beliving in system of alliances. Only countries that already own nuclear weapon are interested in keeping non-proliferation treaty alive and they do it to secure their interests which is terrorizing and robbing other countries and nations.
Isaac Barnes
Brandon Lopez
When the USA and EU's central banks have unlimited possibility to print their fiat currencies and we freewilingly agree to accept them as payment-means, we also agree on being robbed by printers of this currency. If we collected all dollars that are in global circulation, their nominal value would be tens times bigger than whole wealth of the USA. That's a robbery in white gloves. People around the world from all countries should have full freedom to create and circulate any currencies they want, independently from any central banks, and countries they live in should have full freedom of obtaining means of mass destruction in any quantities they can afford to.
It is the best way to maintain global peace and prosperity
Aaron James