Arkhand Bharata

What would benefit India would be to go to war with Pakistan or China. If they lost a couple 10 million or so, the world and their country would be better.

Almost every era was great with the exception of British raj.

Oh great now there are Isis version of Hindhu
You Tamil are behaving like Arab in this few years

>>Hinduism was never a conquering force; it has always operated in treacherous ways since Gupta period.
>Whenever Hindus stretched themselves, their neighbors disliked them and resisted their ways of governance, so basically Hinduism and Hindus have brainwashed other castes that:
>“Crossing a river is a deadly sin as per the Upanishads” which means moving to other lands is a sin, and every religious Hindu and every caste must not cross the river and explore the world.
>So basically most Indians were in a cocoon for almost 2,500 years.
>None of them explored other nations, trade was minimal, and mostly India was colonized repeatedly by other conquering forces since ancient Hellenic times.
>Even after independence, for 40 years India was a backwards agrarian society, mostly following a culture of “honor.”
>But in early 1990’s, something remarkable happened to India, for the first time, average Indians moved out of their filthy nation and have seen the glory of other civilizations
>But Indians are living in a paradox; they can’t understand why they are being taught that their culture is supreme since childhood, and having seen other great civilizations and their societies, most if not all of them have realized one fundamental thing that they are the most degenerate people of all.
>Now even the state and religious classes have realized the reality that other cultures.

>Now even the state and religious classes have realized the reality that other cultures and civilizations have created more productive societies than they have.
>The ruling class is aware that they have destroyed the nation; they are fully aware that they have fiddled for the past 50 years for some frivolous pride.
>But they have even realized that it’s easy to keep all these different tribes under their control as long as they remain in poverty and remain ignorant.
>Few may make their way out, but for our caste based society which have lived for past 1500 years feeding on others like parasites, it’s hard to swallow the new liberation that young Indians are experiencing.
>So it’s essential to create a sense of pride again, pride that must not be oriented towards social ethics, but instead must be channeled into useless things which have no logical or rational nature.
>Like most Indians are Proud to be Indians – but no one can even answer in few words what exactly they take “pride” in.
>Most of proud to be Hindus – they created one shallow story after another to rationalize their pride.
>Most Schools are distributing Mein Kampf for college kids to create pride
>There is a reason for all these things and the hideous nature of most Hindutvas who spout their nonsense across Internet forums.
>The reasons are inherent insecurity, lack of creative ability among Indians and most importantly fear.
>Exactly, fear of colonization – it has happened repeatedly for past 1500 years.
>That’s the reason why India is the largest importer of weapons.
>It will not even hesitate to use weapons on its own people – “Tribal adivasis” for mining their lands.
>India now wants to show to this world that they are not insecure, at least outwardly.
>There must be a bandwagon of pride and chest thumping among Indians.

>For many centuries we have preached and practiced duplicity in life, family, relations, business and love.
>And the result is before your eyes a hypocritical duplicitous society which prides itself on morality, virtue, spirituality, sympathy and whatnot.
>But underneath the rug, we all know that we stink, and we are duplicitous, treacherous and sometimes the best at stabbing each other in the back
>We have practiced this culture for so long that it has become the blood of our society.
>As a Brahmin I accept that we are corrupted, crooked, morally and spiritually degenerate.
FYI–I am a Vedic brahmin, not rich but come from a lower middle-class background
>I also belong to an ultra-orthodox priesthood family and I know deep inside me that we as a country have become degenerate, but I can do nothing about it.
>I hope you publish this as your main article so others will read about the reality of East Indians or for most South Asians as we have followed the same beliefs for most part of our history.
>That’s why you will more violence, corruption, poverty, malnourishment, and lack of empathy towards others humans, backstabbing among most south Asian people.

What? India empires traded with almost every major civilisations in their time.

>>Whenever Hindus stretched themselves, their neighbors disliked them and resisted their ways of governance.
Give one example
>>Most Schools are distributing Mein Kampf for college kids to create pride
Not true

Actually the Tamil chola empire lead by rajendra chola conquered Indonesia. He also colonised north sentinels and used them in his conquests of Indonesia
t. Knower of things

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chola_invasion_of_Srivijaya
Lmao, Southern India was always involved in international trade. Indo-Roman Trade and the SEA as shown above.

Northern Indians isolated themselves. The south defended itself valiantly throughout centuries

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COPE

SEETHING BUTTHURT SINGH

fair enough but I wouldn't say this was a significant contributor to the influence of Hindu art and architecture as the user was talking about. the south Indians exported Buddhism and Hinduism (originally as one) through trade more than conquest. even this invasion you've linked was short-lived
>south defended itself valiantly throughout centuries
actually a very underrated bit about Indian history. the south had superior naval forces and they BTFO'd invaders time and time again even though they were outnumbered a lot of the times

>one brief invasion against an already indianized empire
>doesn't even hold any land
>somehow this proves that Hindu temples in SEA was because of Indian conquest
lmao is this the Indian education I've been hearing so much about?

>>doesn't even hold any land
*only occupied briefly

not really an invasion.
several kings had relation with sea.
Kalinga had colonised thailand.
tamils had malaysia
its not really bloody invasion but more of cultural.

This is what happen when Indian history textbooks don’t teach anything beyond Delhi, Mughals and British.

Our entire academia is full of left-wing retards like you. Romila Thappar, Nehru, Gandhi, nearly every Indian documenting Indian history since independence has been a left wing retard. And this bias is shown in what is actually taught in our history textbooks. How the Muslims were peaceful, why diversity is cool, glorifying the Russian Socialist Revolution, etc.

Mein Kampf in schools? You aren’t even Indian or you’re a NRI cuck. We don’t have that shit here. Might’ve read some news headline of some isolated school. Hitler’s depiction in Indian history textbooks is of the worst tyrant imaginable. The suffering of the Jews, pictures from concentration camps, etc. are all present in our history textbooks.

This is what we are taught,

“After the exposè of the Nazi regime’s brutal atrocities against the Jewish people and other ethnic minorities, a realisation swooped across the world. Europe had lost all moral authority it had, for the Germans, the heart of Europe, had descended to the level of savages. Engineers, Doctors, Scientists, and professionals, who were once highly regarded, were now being put in court for horrific crimes from stictching young twins, rape of Jewish women and children, mass murder and attempted genocide. No greater blow to German and European pride had ever been struck since the defeat at Constantinople. The White Man’s Burden was no longer applicable, for the White Man had fallen far far below the primitive tribes of Africa he once mocked for being savages.”

Cultural exchange between SEA and india had happened for centuries but it was never an "invasion" by any means. Simply culture exchanged along the trade routes.

>One brief invasion

I might not like T*mils or dravidian ooga boogas but they did conquer places like sri lanka and Lakshsdweep islands and they are probably the first to reach Andaman and Nicobar island's

Greek and roman records even says that indians were common traders and mercenaries in African kingdoms such as Axhum

Only after fall of Axhum indian kingdoms started pushing into south east Asia

>Cultural exchange
there were no exchange.sea was culturally hindu.
even china/japan/korea were hindu,
and our nationalism is not ethnic, we are not racist. our nationalism is of cultural. so SEA is part of it.

my point is that the chola invasion contributed barely anything to the spread of Indian culture in SEA, when Indian culture was already spread by traders hundreds of years before that.
Here's one of the few influence of the chola invasion that I can think of:
Culas in indonesian/malay means deceitful, cheeky, lazy, slow.
I don't even know what you're talking about. sea is not culturally Hindu, at least not originally. Even during the height of the Hindu empires in nusantara, only the elites were actually Hindu, while most people still adhered to traditional beliefs like animism.

Nah unite but every group gets a province

>sea is not culturally Hindu
because you are muslim , its obviously hard for you to cope
you are not indonesian you are java or bali, and part of our civilization.
>traditional beliefs like animism
even new guinea is part of your country though.

>because you are muslim
No i'm not
> its obviously hard for you to cope
you are not indonesian you are java or bali, and part of our civilization.
Don't know what you mean by this
>even new guinea is part of your country though.
so? Not because of Indians of course.

no, indians weren't militarily mighty, they were great traders and sailors. south asian became hindu via india-china trade

>Indian empires didn't conquer SEA.
>implying
Nigga, Rajendra Chola made Malaysia his bitch. Malaysia was TAMIZH NADU because of the Chola dynasty. In Indonesia they didn't establish direct control but they were the major traders of the region.
>chola invasion contributed barely anything
Wrong. See above.
>only the elites were actually Hindu,
True. Sanskrit was spoken by the upper class of the society. Kings and royalty adopted the Hindu religion. The Cholas gave the TAMIZH script to the Malaysians.
Trade was a major part and they were a significant force in the market despite not directly ruling the regions. This also eventually led to China and India trading (which is what actually spurred the invasion of SEA). The Cholas were a formidable force in the SEA, especially under Rajendra Chola.

Fake news. Thank god it's not true or we would be shitting in the streets too.

My people look down at Indians. Indians are dirty and smelly apes.

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Civilization didn't arise independently in south asia. yours is a land of jungles and mountains not kind to farming. Civilization arrived to south asia as chinese and indian/bangladesh traders explored the coast and used south asian villages as stopping points to trade and buy goods. As these villages grew in populations and wealth and became city states, the vast majority of them borrowed their bureacracy and writing systems from indian kingdoms, with the exception of dai viet which was mostly chinese in administration.

your country were hindus before you became disgusting trannies.

Why does your king have a Indian name?

it's no surprise that funnan arose from a city located in the exact middle spot between mainland china and india's sea trade route..

Thailand is the most non-Hindu Hindu nation of them all lol. The Republic of India is not the same as the great empires of ancient India.

Thailand is hindu. Buddhism is a monk religion. All civic affairs are hindu in thailand. The coronation is carried out by brahmins for example

Barely anything. Cholas should've installed direct administration if they want lasting influence. Biggest result of the invasion was the destruction of srivijaya, which was then replaced by other kingdoms in a few years.
>yours is a land of jungles and mountains not kind to farming
wrong. Look at java.

I'm sorry, but you are considered mud people to us. Thailand is not your territory and we will never belong to such dirty people. We are so much higher than Indians. We are the Chosen Sires of the Chakri Dynasty and the Ayutthaya Kingdom and the Sukhothai Empire.

You are a slave race, nothing more. Again, sorry.

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>Thailand
>Emperor King Rama X, Vajiralongkorn
Lol, dude. You guys literally built the largest Ram Temple dedicated to Lord Ram and once had your capital as Ayutthaya (inspired from the Hindu city of Ayodhya).

There’s nothing wrong with it, but it’s history.

I fucked a Thai whore on my last trip to Thailand. She was great. Thank you Thailand.

>Thailand is not your territory
>We are the Chosen of the Ayutthaya Kingdom
kek do you even know what from where the name came?
hahahahaha

We are descended from the Great Naga Race, at no point was India involved.

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Not the entirety of the region, of course. but the vast majority of it is jungle, and it was so that civilization reached the jungle first to the khmers via sea trade and from funnan to the islands.

Also take into account that early ships couldn't go much further than the coast and there was no point in exploring beyond the mainland because there was no mayor trade points. It's why the first indonesian kingdom came from sumatra and not java. Bah, i don't know if it can be called indonesian.

It is Thai. My only regret is that when we ruled over India, we forgot to teach you how to use toilets.

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>Naga Race,
>no point was India involved.
dude(?) just stop

Hinduism and Buddhism weren't distinct in the beginning.
>barely anything
How ar eyou quantifying that? The Cholas passed down motherfucking written script to the Malays, man. It doesn't get more COLONIAL™ than that.
>lasting
None of it lasted. Almost none of the natives are Hindus now. The art, architecture and culture, even in a country like Malaysia, is pretty fucking dated. But Malaysia still has the TAMIZH imprint all these years after the invasion.
I'm trying to come up with a catchy BLACK'D meme but for TAMIZH BVLLS.

I think it’s a Westerner trolling

>posts same map
retard, leave int and earn some money by fucking tourist.

didn't ashoka give you buddhism

Our civilization dates back eons before even the the Great Cradles of Civilization.

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Our ancient race is far older than you could ever imagine.

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yeah i think the same. probably a porn producer.

seething Indochinese mutt

>T.Zhang
So should China and it's colonies.

(you)

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low class cunts like you get the rope
Vedic Brahmin my ass

Siam is eternal. Thailand is eternal.

India should be balkanized.

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Indian retards are so easy to bait, holy shit.

>written script
Everyone takes other's written scripts all the time. Japanese used chinese script, does that mean they're conquered by the chinese? Even before the chola invasion other Indian scripts was already used in the region.
just face it, Indians never conquered much beyond their subcontinent, even during the one time they managed to launch an invasion they failed to established direct control.

>does that mean they're conquered by the chinese
No, being conquered by the Chinese means they were conquered by the Chinese.
I don't understand your point. Are you actually contesting that Tamil Malaysia was a thing?

>Hinduism and Buddhism weren't distinct in the beginning.

They were

>tp
>tf
holy fucking shit this literal god knows what mongrel.
dude your whole country is a genetic abomination.

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Buddha was a Hindu, mate.

I'm just saying that a writing script being used in a certain region barely proves anything. So no, it doesn't get very COLONIAL™.

>Buddhism
actually there is no such thing as buddhism and their literature is hindu mixed with jain.

look at this sea monkey seethe lmao
my line can be traced from the old zamindars of Bengal to the monarchy
now your savage lizard eating ancestors were probably raped by the south Indians toproduce even an horrific mutt race

nigga just look at your face in the mirror
you are just another sea monkey

>this level of we wuzzing
lmao

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hello fellow bro

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like I said
seething Indochinese mutt

>d-d-dude, based on my fantasy my countrymen raped yours
meanwhile they're making kalergi plan MTV propaganada looks like a fucking joke in india

I remember you
ki khobor bal

t. jewish wetdream abominacion

valoi bara lel

Stop being rude to our sea frens bros.

No he wasnt. He was a buddhist.
Not true. Buddhism has unique beliefs from both jains and from brahminism

>fantasy
do you honestly think your almighty allah shat your dirty sea monkey kind all over those islands one fine day
lmao this much delusion
literal tamil-chink rapebabies defending their miserable existence
>kalergi plan
muh displacement
redaing pdfs about kalergi plan doesn't make you smart boy go back to your minimum wage muzzie job

beautiful Indian culture...
Eating from the ground... Just like man's best friend...

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>No he wasnt. He was a buddhist.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
> Buddhism has unique beliefs from both jains and from brahminism
you dont know about buddhism except some buddha meditation. budhhism is mixed form of hinduism and jainism. and buddha never teach any religion.

whats this I hear about a Bengali autist in the /sag/generals
was that you?

as opposed to random wacky hindu god magically teleported SEA ancestor """mutt""" to taiwan?

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i have some problem with a tamil autist who is rude to other bros. i am not sure who are you talking about but i was called by that person autist once.

Wtf Bros stop fighting sea and Indians are frens.

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Buddhism teaches anatman
Sanatana dharma and jaina teaches atman

Buddha relinquished vedic rituals. Buddha does not afirm brahman or atman.

lol
must have been someone else then
but I don't think there are many regular Bengalis in here desu

also yeah that tamil guy is retarded

They are debating whether or not SEA and its kingdoms are part of Indian civilization

What do you think?

>Buddha was a buddhist
And I suppose Christ was Christian?

Hindu is a mediecal persian appelation for people living east of the sindhu river.

Buddha was not an adherent of sanantan dharma. He was ethnically an Arya.

buddha was a laarping jaina mahabir wanabee who mixed mimamsa and carvak section of hinduism to oppose jains then later buddhist kings massacred millions of jains.

there are atleast 4 bengalis. regular or not , dont know
>tamil guy is retarded
i dont know whats wrong with him , he mocks other but the truth is many Indian meme are infact show tamils , like this strange guy though.

SEA kingdoms were obviously part of an indian sphere of influence.

But its like saying the uk is part of italy because rome was in charge here for a bit, to go any further than that.

>carvak
Not hinduism
If you reject the vedas and atman and brahman you arent a sanatan dharmik

>If you reject the vedas
he did not reject it, he said its not necessary,, he stole our scripture , gods etc etc.

Buddha rejected vedic yajnas and did not affirm atma or brahm.

He is not a sanatani. Simple as.
He was an arya but that aspect of buddha has long since been burn and decomposed.