In UK leaves EU, shall it give its spot to Germany ?

Who aside from Germany would this benefit?
Why would America agree to this?
What is the point of making such a significant switch?
Should we also take away Russia's seat? They have a much weaker economy than us.
Or maybe we ought to give the seat to India? They will have a larger economy than France with half a decade.

Belgium should lead the UN, we're already doing a very good job with the EU and i'm sure we could do even better with the entire world in our hands.

Maybe give it to India rather.

absolutely. Currently only evil nations have a spot

>Should we also take away Russia's seat? They have a much weaker economy than us.
Russias military power justifies the seat.
>Why would America agree to this?
America obviously will agree since Germany is just a different lapdog with same function.
>Who aside from Germany would this benefit?
Germans will not benefit since it's not our wars and problems the coucil deals with.
>Or maybe we ought to give the seat to India?
Exactly, they simply are more relevant for at least their region.

How is France still in there? Ouiaboos?

>America obviously will agree since Germany is just a different lapdog with same function.
Right, so, what's the point? Who benefits?

>Who benefits?
USA.
There needs to be a real power there actually representing a relevant place insteed of just the USA.
India is the only right choice.

Africa is already represented through France.

What the fuck kind of logic is that?

Oh perhaps, but I thought we were talking about replacing the UK with germany?

As for India, PRC would veto that immediately.

Fuck PRC India deserves the Spot.

I agree, but there's not really much anyone can do about it at this point/

>America obviously will agree since Germany is just a different lapdog with same function
No, the US would not
Germany has proven to be extremely difficult with the US, much like France, in regards to foreign policy and international peacekeeping
The UK however has proven to be an extremely reliable ally and by all means the only nation with global influence that genuinely has a semi-similar agenda to the US
>Germans will not benefit since it's not our wars and problems the coucil deals with
This shit right here is why Germany will never get a permanent seat on the UNSC
Approaching anything dealing with international safety and the mitigation of wars with apathy or saying "It isn't our problem" fundamentally undermines the entire purpose of the permanent members serving as a bedrock for continued operations for the Blue Helmets and UN resolutions to prevent crimes against humanity

Glad to see the complete and total selfishness of the whole of the German populace is still there

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Give it to the new rising super power. Nigeria

>bedrock for continued operations for the Blue Helmets and UN resolutions to prevent crimes against humanity

Meh only France cares about blue helmets in Africa. All USA cares is about blocking shi against Israel.
>Muh selfishness, Muh crimes against Humanity
That all still happen daily and the SC doesn't do a single shit.
Also no Nation has as many blue helmets abroad as India.
>muh UK supports all our decision in favour Isael entirely selfless just for us
That's what Germany would do to that's why having a seat for us is just an extension of American institution abuse.

>Meh only France cares about blue helmets in Africa
The US has been doing shit in Africa for quite some time with and without France
Look at pretty much any past or present UN Peacekeeping missions and you'll see the US either directly participating or bankrolling the peacekeeping operation
>That all still happen daily and the SC doesn't do a single shit
Because its constantly been tied up by the PRC, France, and Russia who veto pretty much all intervention on the basis that "The US is a warmonger and shouldn't be allowed to continue leading peacekeeping operations"
>Also no Nation has as many blue helmets abroad as India
Proportionally it's Pakistan
>That's what Germany would do to that's why having a seat for us is just an extension of American institution abuse
No they would not
There is no evidence whatsoever that Germany would support the US on anything that was not outside of their immediate interest seeing as they have routinely not done so and the fact that Germany has constantly been pushing for the federalization of the EU, the establishing of a Euro-centric military to displace NATO, and has constantly been smearing the reputation of the US both within and outside of the EU
It is blatantly obvious that the German government is only working with the US so long as it benefits them and will immediately burn any bridges, commitments, or agreements when it becomes convenient to do so
Germany has insofar failed to show that it is genuinely committed to anything other than the expansion and perpetuation of German influence, of which solely benefits Germany and Germany alone

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>The US is a warmonger and shouldn't be allowed to continue leading peacekeeping operations"
well it's true that so far US interventions caused much more horid shit than the natural cause had done.
It's simply true that the US "peacekeeping" rathr creates long lasting and very difficult situations.

brexit's not happening guys

At no point didnt you ever satisfactorily address the selfishness of the Germans. The countries currently on the SC have been, or will be, world hegemons or superpowers. They know global responsibility and think of geopolitics beyond their own benefit. Germans only think of numbers, efficiency and their own improvement. Every country there is far more suited to this role.
>Inb4 you swerve the question of Germany's ability to think unselfishly by attacking my flag

>Germans only think of numbers, efficiency and their own improvement
I wish. kek

My point is rather that USA mainly contributes chaos and murder to world under le good will "propganda".

>well it's true that so far US interventions caused much more horid shit than the natural cause had done
So you're saying that if the US and France didn't intervene in Rwanda it would've worked out for the best?

Based fellow superpower. Fuck selfish Krauts

It may be so, but they are at least globally minded. They try to stick their nose in around the world and help their allies and make things better or worse, but at least they have interest. Germany has never tried to help or assist anyone other than themselves, unless I massively misunderstood all of history?

>France
that's the main factor

US should rather fuck off from the world.

Fuck off Kraut, can't wait to set many Krauts on fire like my Grandpa did

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Was this really needed?
Now I prefer UK keeps seat but Germany takes American.

>that's the main factor
They intervened because they wanted to expand their influence into central Africa
The French evacuated westerners and brought Tutsi to Hutu government checkpoints where they (The Tutsi) were killed on the spot

And what do you mean that the US should "fuck off from the world?"
It was that exact line of thinking following Mogadishu that lead to American apathy and a large part of the Rwandan and Yugoslavic genocides to take place, and it was that same apathy post-Vietnam (As well as the PRC) that prevented the US from intervening in the Cambodian genocide

It's pretty goddamn obvious that no other country on Earth is actually dedicated to seeing the UN succeed in any of its missions besides the US
Were it not for the US being in the UN it most certainly would've dissolved into petty squabbles and become utterly redundant like the League of Nations had

So regardless if the US fucks up during its operations, any help is better than no help at all

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We care about Europe, moreso than any other nation currently holding a seat. The seats of Russia and the US are extremely questionable when you look at global involvement

Brexit was never going to happen lol.

If voting changed anything, it would be made illegal.

They should give their spot to NZ

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Will it*- shall should only be used in a question format with first person pronouns

this but ironically

I agree. You'd literally do the exact same as we do but without everyone complaining about you and wanting to remove you