Are other Asians embarrassed about the Philippines...

What makes Indonesia worst than Malaysia?

Nah
SEA is just a discount version of India with colonialism and autism thrown into the mix

We asked for it first.
It might've actually worked had it arrived before American indoctrination.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katipunan#Attempt_to_solicit_Japan's_aid

I blame WW2
Dutch didn't finish their job properly

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>similar with India
speak for youself, poo-man. people here actually have culture. enjoy what happens when your only redeemable quality (ease to do business) fails to hold your weight. crash back into the stinky sea.

My mistake
SEA is just a discount version of China (Vietnam) and India (everybody else) mixed with Colonialism and Autism

a latrine in fucking uttar pradesh has more culture than the entirety of SEA fucking austronigger

hard to hear you over sound of my toilet flushing. really enjoying to eat my lunch, beef soup. really love beef high in protein and iron. i would share but i dont want blue elephant man 12 arms to fuck your pooey ass.

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indians brought civilisation to your kind you fucking barbarian
learn to be grateful

Ok discount china

Vietnam is part of the Sinosphere

>durka we was da kangs in viet nam

your civilisation consist of
>put all belongings even dead body in polluted gages river.
>poo in the street like a dog
>eat greasy food to make poo liquid, its less stress
>never learn grooming of hair and beard
>shower in dead body river once a month
>and rape

i will enjoy meet a cute white skin viet girl at the bar on weekend, enjoy a steak. i dont have to rape her. hope you understand.

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But Malaysia is more Islamic and intolerant than we are, though granted more richer, but even us are richer than you
You gotta go back rajaponam

This was before ""American Indoctrination"" it was actually tahnks to them our relations increased.

>The Katipunan sent a delegate to the Emperor of Japan to solicit funds and military arms in May 1896.

Although the Meiji government of Japan was unwilling and unable to provide any official support,

>Japanese supporters of Philippine independence in the Pan-Asian movement raised funds and sent weapons on the privately charted Nunobiki Maru,

which sank before reaching its destination.

>However, under the terms of the Taft–Katsura Agreement of 1905, the Japanese government officially acquiesced to American colonial rule over the Philippines.

>During the American period, Japanese economic ties to the Philippines expanded tremendously and by 1929 Japan was the largest trading partner to the Philippines after the United States. Economic investment was accompanied by large-scale immigration of Japanese to the Philippines.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan–Philippines_relations

fff

Did the Philippines ever had any movement to go back to its pre-Hispanic culture?

Muslims and the Mountain tribes kept thier cultures
but those Mountain tribes did convert to protestants but still retain thier identity

The rest were destroyed.

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SEA's culture was literally influenced by India ROFL. Many royal families of South East Asia claimed descendent from Hindu lords. Thai literally uses an Indic derived script and they build temples dedicated to the Indian Lord Ram. Let's not forget Buddhism either. Buddha was a Indo-Aryan pajeet.

Talking about Vietnam, the Champa kingdom's capital was literally Indrapura (City of Indra), you don't get more Indian than that.

Kek

Not say the South East Asians didn't have their own culture, we did influence them but they made their own identity much later, but if you are going to insult us saying we don't have a culture I'm going to respond.

Indonesia would probably get even more Islamic under Japanese rule

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Champa has no cultural influence on Vietnam other than ruins acting as tourist sites

>talk about the champa kingdom
oh you mean those monkey people we conquered and slaughtered. thats right! nice history lesson to see whose the winner whose the loser.

you didnt counter any of my points and talked about Thailand. you really love thailand huh now you was kangz of thailand too.

My country is cucked as well, no reasons being embarrassed by other countries.

>SEA thread
>blablabla India
Imagine if in every Europe related threads an obnoxious Greek comes in and keep wewuzing

not really

and as far as I'm aware, Islam is much less "fundamentalist" and "radical" east of Indian Bengal, unlike moslems in Africa and the rest of Asia

>Europe relevant

I miss that dude.

Why

Why reply to a question not directed at you? Unless you're Asian, which I doubt

Implying that a grateful and independent First Republic wouldn't have sought closer ties to Japan than mere trade deals.

You got to be a delusional cuck to thank the Americans for stabbing us in the back and dictating our foreign policy.

Give indonesia back to us.
Problem fixed

I respect SE Asia for the Khmer Empire, which was one of the most glorious civilizations known the mankind alongside Egypt, Maurya, Persia, Inca, Maya, Aztec, Rome, Paris, London, etc.

The problem is that it's so wholly underrated. It had a hydro system far more advanced than any other civilization at the time, but by the time the Portuguese/Spanish arrived, it was far too crumbled to record.

I wish I could visit Angkor Wat some day.

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>Bonifacio tried to purchase arms and ammunition from Japan, but failed due to lack of funds and the uncovering of the Katipunan, José Dizon was part of the committee that the Katipunan formed to secure arms from Japan with the connivance of the Japanese ship captain

You realize we gave arms to the British and Soviets, who we hated, during WW2?

"Lack of funds" really means no friends, no offense here. If you don't believe me, research American-British history from 1776-1815 and then look up American-Russian history from 1917-X. Selling arms requires a certain amount of trust, but I don't think that level is friendship. After all, the USA armed the Muhajideen which eventually became Al-Qaeda

>Vietnam
>culture

I can't think of another Asian country with less culture than Vietnam. Even the Philippines has 20x more culture than Vietnam. What is Vietnamese culture? Rice hats? Rice noodles? There is literally zero unique things about Vietnam. You guys seem to be incapable of creating.

Also what is Vietnamese history?

>be ooga boogas
>enslaved by China for 1000 years
>FINALLY gain independence while China is fractured and unstable
>next 1000 years as a vassal of China
>ruled by ethnic Chinese emperors because not smart enough to rule themselves
>enslaved by China again. Get slaughtered.
>colonized by France

Literally 100% of Vietnamese military wins are thanks to the fucking jungles and diseases and shit.

singapoor is right,
Indochina was called Indochina in the West for a reason. Vietnam, Cambodia, etc. rolled over for Hinduism and Buddhism

That being said I do not think this is a negative. Singapore is merely a lucky artificial traffic port, whereas Indochina has much more culture, temples, and history.

>Implying that a grateful and independent First Republic wouldn't have sought closer ties to Japan than mere trade deals.

>However, under the terms of the Taft–Katsura Agreement of 1905, the Japanese government officially acquiesced to American colonial rule over the Philippines.

LoL it pretty much already answered it before the butthurt rant

Fuck off, they defeated both us and China. They are neither Amerisphere or Sinosphere

1000% chance of being a boomer, chink, or khmer

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_domination_of_Vietnam
a third of vietnamese lexis is sinic in origin, and up to 60% in formal documents
historically it is a part of the sinosphere, today it is probably more towards america

are other south americans embarrassed about the mexican for being completely cucked by the USA and narcotic cartel, respectively?

the way you framed the questions didn't make it explicitly appear that it was directed at SEAs

Right, there was a lot of cases of imperialism there. However, if we apply the same perceptions of European history, does it hold up? I don't think so, because there are various times that France has owned half of Europe and Germany has owned half of Europe, but we don't consider northern Italy to be essentially Germany today, for example.

I think that cultures are more defined by language, which is why the development of Vietnamese/Thai/etc. is more interesting to me. It went from Chinese script to latin letters (due to colonization) and has transformed so much over the years. I wish I had more to time to learn Vietnamese but right now I'm barely keeping up learning programming skills for my work.

Old Vietnamese really weak to be honest.
It get stronger after keep getting defeated.
Vietnam would not annex Champa if Champa never successfully raid Vietnam 2 times and start another Chinese domination.

and anyways, I reply to whatever thread I want posted at 4channel, this is not your blog, so fuck off!

Masumi-chan propaganda everywhere

t. Nguyen

>Literally 100% of Vietnamese military wins are thanks to the fucking jungles and diseases and shit

Everywhere Vietnam has involved militarily in has guess fucking what? Jungles. What your point?

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LEAVE US ALONE

Mexico is has been cucking the USA since 1910 tb.h. Since the Mexican Revolution, Mexico has been offloading its lower class laborers onto us to work on farms. This was fine when the USA was an agricultural nation but now that we aren't, Mexico is still dumping lower class laborers on us. We would like to deport them all but it would look like Nazi Germany, no joke.

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i want to learn vietnamese as well desu

It's your fucking fault that Suharto got to play his wet fantasy of a national muslim LARP in the first place. Don't tell me you'd convert them because you cannot.

I'm so proud of Burma. So, so proud of that nation. While there's actually some fatass out there in places like Greenland, Faroe Islands, and all the Nordic countries, who out of all things to do in the world, in their limited time on the Earth, have saved a fucking Facebook frog or some shitty retarded reddit feels man face on their computer like a complete newfag idiot and posted it on Jow Forums, saying a lot about their countries just by the statistical reality of it, Burma has managed to rein in its population so that if by any chance one of its sixty million people who do not post here did happen to visit nu4chan, it would at least raise their eyebrows as it should for any mentally competent human being, and make them wonder, "wait, why are these people posting the same two pictures every single day here since long before I knew how to type when there's billions of other pictures with no less visible relation to the topic than those two have?". Maybe, just maybe the smarter ones will say "something's not right here, it's almost as if the indigenous people of this community have all been driven out and the new users have implemented a prison-like posting strategy to make sure they never come back. Why are they so keen on conformity when the relics of web design alone, once you get past the stop signs and traffic lights, still bear witness to an original intent that was anything but conformist? And why, even though I can figure this out so clearly and straightforwardly having just gotten on the Internet and having just learned English, do they still manage to dupe other new users equally as ignorant of the website's history as I am, from the unknown frozen northwest and such like postindustrial Starbucks societies as theirs, into falling in line and copycatting their blatantly dull, unentertaining, unintelligent hiveminded behavior? Am I in some kind of Twilight Zone, or are these people just in severe denial?"

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Japan supported islamist movements in indonesia because they tend to be anti-west
>suharto
>muslim
barely

Mexico has*
sorry bit drunk

Hopefully I can find the time. I wouldn't want to travel to Thailand since people will just assume I'm a white pedophile. But at least maybe one country in SE Asia won't discriminate against me

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>the south china sea? that belongs to the phillipines, vietnam and malaysia, china has no right to it

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Why did they kill lad. I mean first lad going around the world by ship and he got speared.

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Serves you right, gringo

forebears.io/surnames/brand

Go on, find where I'm from, because I don't even fuckin know

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Any opinions on united Maphilindo by Malays, Filipinos, or Indonesians?

You mean the East Vietnamese Sea

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>Comanches cuck you out of land
>accept slaving Texans and expect them to follow the anti-slavery laws
I'm sorry friend but you brought it on yourself

The relationship we've had since 1910 was conciliatory but you've done nothing but abuse us since then. God save you when the tides shift.

nightmare

It's a based concept.

Sadly, it's even less likely to occur in our lifetime than the Arab Union.

>suharto
>muslim larp
What ?
Dunno ive a reintegration would make indonesians convert but at least it might stop islamist movements and the papuan war.

How is the weather there in October-November? I am planning a trip to Cebu to do some diving and swim with the whale sharks.

>imperialism
I think that by "Sinosphere" they were referring to the fact that Viet Nam (i,e, the Vietnamese) is traditionally a "Confucian" society as in being Taoist/Mahayannan Buddhists, using Classical Chinese, and therefore closer to Japan and Korea and Overseas Chinese rather than Indonesians or Filipinos

it's just a label like Latin-America vis a vis North America or Mediterranean vis a vis the barbarians up north and the barbarians further south or Christendom vs Land of Islam, etc,

Sure but Theravada buddhism became more dominant for a larger stretch of history. This is the more "traditional" type of buddhism

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We are irrelevant, stop making thread about us, please.

>still
WRONG!

Net migration from Mexico to the United States has been NEGATIVE for the last fucking twenty years! TWENTY YEARS!

I think it's time to update your priors son!

Would only be useful for military sea patrol purposes to try and get chink out but chinks will just sabotage it

Accept naked garuda

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Based chad

Note that the population center of vietnam is still covered, even though the rural isn't

Yes it's been negative but that doesn't remove the 15 million illegal immigrants you have dumped on us (although not all are Mexican in origin, all have come from Mexico)

You do realize that Mexican migration to the US slowed to almost nothing under obozo because of the loss of jobs and shitty economy he created.

no, it has to do with shit that happened in Mexico, not in America

Sinosphere is just a cultural sphere stupido, which Vietnam is obviously still in now. Japan and Korea too, it doesn't necessarily mean being dominated by China.

How's AMLO doing btw?

Don't be daft, economic conditions rarely show their head during a presidency unless that president is in his 6th-8th year of a 2nd term

The economic downturn of 2008 was a combination of natural capitalism plus an irresponsible speculation environment for banks. That's it. Both Bush Jr. and Obama were blameworthy.

It really did not affect Mexicans coming here because even with our shit economy, it was better than Mexico. The problem with Mexico is that we don't enforce our border enough and/or we aren't racist enough.

Not op
I was a sophomore in college when the 2008 crap went down. That economic mess was a perfect storm of Jr. and O.
>The problem with Mexico is that we don't enforce our border enough and/or we aren't racist enough.
Very good statement!

>which Vietnam is obviously still in now.
lol

USA napalmed Vietnam 78% approval rate
USA nuked Japan twice, 68% approval rate

This is far higher than many of our European allies. Despite our mistakes, our ideology reigns strong compared to Chinese authoritarianism.

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What does that have to do with literally anything I said. Korea and Japan are also very anti-China. Korea and Japan are also still sinosphere, as is Vietnam. I suppose it's hard for you to grasp cultural spheres, being an American.

Not how it works
Yup

>be opposed to China
>be part of a sinosphere

I suppose it's hard for you to understand American culture but we kinda separated ourselves from Europe in 1776. Not that you would know.

Pls come home, daddy.

Dissapointing, which I think is what most people were expecting (either by people that supported him or not)

AMLO and Morena are weird, even though they are Latin-American left-wing and kind of posmo, they aren't really that much into economic reform or social justice but just trying to be VERY EDGY towards the rest of the Mexican parties (PRI, PVEM, NA, PAN and PRD and even MC)

Because we are round eyed people only follow other round eyed value and custom.

Van Mook tried to part peacefully decolonize by creating a Commonwealth with Dutch monarch as Indonesian head of state, but Dutch right wing don't want to let go, they still think colonialism still relevant after WWII. On Indonesian side Sneevliet's commie legacy was still strong even among Islamists so they want nothing less than full independence.

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I feel like at this point it's just a personal smug vendetta against the parties you've listed. I guess the disappointment comes from how overhyped he was in his campaign.

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