What've we gained from the almost 600 billion dollars we put into our military yearly? Wouldn't that money be better spent helping ourselves instead of this whole world peace faggotry? We have enough resources to basically be self sufficient.
Why do we bother being world police?
Other urls found in this thread:
youtube.com
twitter.com
the world would inevitably break into another world war if we left
It's our duty to protect Israel you stupid goyim
1. Prove it
2. Explain why this would be a bad thing
Who fucking cares? Pretty sure MAD would prevent it, even if it didn't, would it hurt us enough to even make a dent?
1. The entire western world is built around the US being an overwhelming force everywhere, our carrier groups have a few euro ships in them at all times. We have literally thousands of arbams tanks sitting in warehouses in Poland and thousands of fighters in the UK. We have nuclear weapons stashed all over Europe and Israel. The power vacuum from us leaving would be like living in Gaul or Hispanola when the Western Roman empire fell
2. I don't want nuclear halocaust
yes Russia alone has enough nukes to destroy the world multiple times over and they have a deadhand system where if the Kremlin is obliterated then their entire arsenal is shot to every corner of the world.
Do you know what the petrodollar is? With how you squander your prosperity you'd live hand to mouth if you weren't taxing the rest of the world.
We'd just go back to taxing virtually nothing and having a tiny military
Are you retarded? Before the US was a global power (and even for awhile after we became one) we had some of the highest standards of living in the world, hence you why you slavniggers fled here in droves.
Shut up retard.
There are people making billions selling retarded stuff to your government. Do you want to ruin their lives?
How do you think that american military industry will survive without your money?
Shhhh~
Let them be, mate.
Empty people need that delirium to fill their hollow lifes with meaning.
>The power vacuum from us leaving would be like living in Gaul or Hispanola when the Western Roman empire fell
Gaul and Hispania were both provinces, the west is not a american province. It's just a bunch of independent countries that americans keep some soldiers in case the Soviet Union decided to attack.
You should have voted for Ron Paul, retard.
Times have changed. American economy is heavily globalised.
I bet you can go back to that with your massive debt that you started racking up before you became a global power...
You live by forcing the planet to buy dollars as you print them and invade whoever doesn't trade oil in dollars. Some skellington in a loincloth down in Africa has to pay for your dinner, lard-o. But keep telling yourself thats irrelevant and you could just go on having a massive trade deficit and keep your lifestyle without that.
kek
Nice cope, Texas has a higher GDP than you
>m-muh debt
Japan has a higher debt-per-capita than us
And how much time ago was that? Does it matter right now?
The US has benifitted immensely by using its military to prop up the USD as the global reserve currency. US companies have an unfair advantage in international commerce and investors from all over the world park their assets in US issued bonds.
we protect Europe as if they were provinces. European countries would have to pay a lot more than we do for a military in similar size due to economic differences
This
The last time Europeans were left to their own devices they started the two most destructive and catastrophic wars in history.
lmao the ruskies would wipe the rest of europe in a couple weeks if they felt like it, nukes and troops stationed in foreign countries is the only thing stopping might-makes-right from becoming the status quo again.
>y-yeah well time has changed
we export more of almost every valuable product on earth than we import.
Whoa, so the US government does serve the American people?
because peace is good for the economy
well at least it serves corporations engaged in international trade and its own institutions capable of issuing bonds
More they Europeans would pay the same amount as they are now because there are no military threats against them.
The US government is the greatest threat to world peace and harmony.
It also has a functional economy. Unlike you. Now buy another Toyota. lel
At this point the US is a pipe that goes from oil to banks, thats how you keep from crashing. You'd shit yourself within a single presidential term if you didn't militarily control oil suppliers.
Only way to end this would be to increase oil extraction to ridiculous rates and become Russia for a while but I'm not even sure you could do that.
Yeah, we just dream of a battle with half a billion people and their largest in the world combined economy with no profits for us whatsoever
The military industrial complex is just a right wing redistribution program to the executives of Lockheed Martin, etc. at the tax payer's dollars. Except unlike other programs the Republicans never have to justify increasing spending while threatening further austerity.
say what? do the Europeans have tens of thousands of tanks that I don't know about? Because the Russians do have ~25,000 tanks and tons of other equipment ready to steamroll Europe at any moment of weakness
>What've we gained from the almost 600 billion dollars we put into our military yearly?
Besides all the technology we develop and engineers employed because of it, it's also a right wing trickle up economics program.
Instead of giving people a paycheck and free healthcare to sit around getting high, you pay them to go around ensuring our global interests are maintained.
Which is irrelevant because Russia has no interest in invading Europe. Not to mention Russia has a smaller population and a much smaller GDP.
*welfare program
Fixed it for you.
>technology
People really understate this. Literally everything you use today was created by the military. GPS, the internet, duct tape, microwaves, digital cameras, computers, etc.
>a country so reliant on the US it agreed to something so obviously one sided as the Plaza accords
>"more stable"
Yeah, nah. The US has a fuckload of natural ports, the largest river systems in the world, and is the single richest country in terms of natural resources. In terms of geography, America is basically unparalleled in wealth.
Hasn't stopped you before.
>our global interests are maintained.
>our
No but they want to Invade Belarus, Ukraine, and the Baltics. I don't see western euros protecting those
Oh shit I get it now. The reason Americans call themselves a world police is because their police actually works like that - they just shoot everyone.
>he thinks Germany would go to war over Russia for Estonia
It wouldn't be the first time lmao. Frankly I say let them, the more dead slavs the better.
>EU's GDP: 19.1 trillion
>EU's population: 512.6 million
>Russia's GDP: 1.578 trillion
>Russia's population: 144.5 million
*with Russia over Estonia
fuck
>what is communism
Estonia is a member of the EU, retard.
so what
>a country so reliant on the US it agreed to something so obviously one sided as the Plaza accords
>"more stable"
Yes? You disarmed them, remember?
>The US has a fuckload of natural ports, the largest river systems in the world, and is the single richest country in terms of natural resources.
Matters little when the populace is a bunch of chucklefucks that keep throwing it away via debt. And don't even mention the river thing, you hardly take advantage of it. You could drop any real nation in that location and they'd be twice as rich as you.
>In terms of geography America is basically unparalleled in wealth.
There's plenty of fantastic locations out there that are 3rd world and failing. As you finally rot through the constitutional foundation of your state and become another Now World shithole you'll be like that too.
alliances didn't stop the Germans from taking Czechoslovakia
>you don't use it
we seem to use what we have better than you
We're not in the 60s, grandpa.
Russia depends on european prosperity
> we don't take advantage of the Mississippi river basin
nigger what
>Hasn't stopped you before
There was never a before.
What you were implying is something that no one in Russia would actually take seriously, because it's just really fucking stupid
>russia has never taken chunks out of europe before
>we seem to use what we have better than you
>derr polan has worse infrastrukchur dan muh forever warless, petroinflated cunt
>i iz a winrar
Is this a real reply or a troll. Holy shit. xD You must be mad as fuck, huh?
Map doesn't show the actual geographical distribution, just that you have a lot of shit in aggregate, not that you have it applied smartly or efficiently. When it comes to Mississippi being underused ts enough to mention shitholes like Detroit. That river is like Japan's coastline turned inside out and embedded in nice real estate you can export from at minimal costs but you still can't even remotely match the fucking Rhine.
You're a waste.
Yeah, and begging the EU and IMF for gibs is so much more stable
EU dependence is toxic. However we did actually function within this century w/o the gibs and grew. Your economic situation isn't remotely comparable. You exist in a bizarro reality where people are forced to do business with you to obtain dollars. You'd get shuddered on every level if that suddenly wasn't the case, so its actually worse than just having extra money injected into the budget because the shift disrupts the whole economy.
Also you wanna compare yourself to some other countries next? Like Ukraine or Vietnam? Just mere moments after boasting how well located the USA is no less, geez.
>REEEE YOU MADE US DO BUSSINESS WITH YOU
then make your own corn
Never with such balance of power
America is trying way too hard to keep up its international image/power. But it's an uphill battle. Hopefully, America realises that it's a waste of time, and starts looking inward once again.
America also needs to be less dogmatic, and pass laws that address systemic issues like Health Care and Education. Debt is already too much of an issue.
If only America invested the amount of money, that it sends to afghanistan, in an american city, or region. It would see an actual return on that investment. Not just wasted money. Thrown into the black hole that is the middle east.
America is spending trillions for:
youtube.com
That isn't a good argument.
1. America has expanded it' commitments rather than decreasing them. The whole middle east issues, came up until recently.
2. America could at least make efforts to reducing the world's dependency on American hard power.
Who gives a fuck lmao.
If those retarded arrogant euroshits want to blow themselves to bits I say we let them.
I agree with this too.
>Matters little when the populace is a bunch of chucklefucks that keep throwing it away via debt
do not blame the people for the faults of the government.