Who will you vote for in our European election, fellow Europeans?

Social democrats, probably. They have some serious people in their list and were the most active ones last time. I just hope we don't vote in the folks that are legally supposed to be banned from politics again.
>white people be like

Greens

Me too, brother!

I am sick of these nationalists. We live in 2019, nation is a social construct.

Also we must do something against American influence. Let's establish United States of Europe instead.

Based

I vote for them. They are so cool. And pink.

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It's from my pen pale Anya.

>Dear Lisa,

>as I write this, I am very sad. Our country has been abolished and...

>...REPLACED BY THE BENEVOLENT EUROPEAN UNION! ALL HAIL EU AND THEIR GLORIOUS NEW ARMY! SINCERELY, LITTLE GIRL!

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I will be voting for pro EU GUE/NGL candidate.

I don't vote
Democracy is cancer

I think the ALDE alliance (mostly classical liberals not not mutt liberals) is most in favour of federalisation. they have pushed for an EU constitution. I think macrons party wanted to join with them this time around.

based. same

No matter if it is shitposting
This thread makes my skin crawl

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An caps and ultracapitalists

Why are you so angry, fellow European?

Come visit Austria and you can make many Austrian-Finnish European babies. And Austro-Finnish-Greek-Nigerian European Grandbabies.

Aaaaaaaaaa!

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PP

is there a vote with less bearing?

This but unironically.

Sumoringer HALT DIE FRESSE DU UNTERMENSCH ICH FINDE DICH, HÄUTE DICH UND WERDE DICH GANZ UND GAR FRESSEN ICH WERDE IN DEINEN AUSGEHÖHLTEN SCHÄDEL SCHEIBEN UND IN DEINE AUGEN WIXXN

I still don't know, who to vote for. I am very much European nationalist, proud of my European heritage. I think I vote for the European Alliance of Conservatives. They preserve my Austrian-Swedish-Italian-Romanian conservative values. Wow that's great.

ALDE!

Based ALDE

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i hate all our parties so i voted greens because accelerationism

Already voted for Socialdemokraterna, who are in S&D. Was close to going for ALDE though

for what passes for the far left at this day and age

This

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Honestly: Are you baiting or serious now?

serious
literally how would that be bait lmao

only good choice in this country

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not him but I am serious too.

>nation is a social construct
It unironically is tho.

state is a social construct, nation isn't

ALDE
>Liberalism[2]
>Conservative liberalism[3]
>Social liberalism[3]
>Pro-Europeanism
>European federalism

Oh such a great party!!! Let's all get one meme nation NOW.

(besides what the fuck? Is this now Conservative Liberalism or Social Liberalism? Actually, what the fuck is Conservative Liberalism in the first place? Another AnCap meme for people who read to much Ayn Rand?)

yes it is you absolute brainlet

Shit is a social construct.

You lost your interest for poop after the Anal stage, because you repressed them in order to socialize.

wrong
lets use south africa as an example, south africa as a state is a social construct but within this state there are multiple nations, Zulu, Khoisan, Boer etc.
each nation needs its own state

those are ethnic groups not nations.

they are one and the same

how does that demonstrate that nations are not social constructs
>each nation needs its own state
why lmao

not at all.

a nation is a group of people linked ethnically, culturally and linguistically
>why lmao
because otherwise you get a failed state like yugoslavia, south africa or brazil

Culture and languages are social constructs too.

or like switzerland, germany and italy
>a nation is a group of people linked ethnically, culturally and linguistically
yeah you just said that, but i was asking you to demonstrate why it isn't a social construct, not what it was

nevermind didnt know about the second meaning of the word. I feel retarded now. but with nation I usually think about a country because thats how its usually used here.

Serious, of course.

>NOO YOU CANT JUST FORGE NATION STATES FROM SMALLER NATION STATES.
>w-wait what do you mean that austria suddenly wanted to forged into a new german state with prussia???!
>WHAT NO IT CANT BE. ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT ITALY USED TO BE MADE UP OF SOVEREIGN NATION STATES THAT WAS THEN FORGED TO BECOME THE MODERN ITALIAN STATE? AND YOU ARE TELLING ME THE SAME IS TRUE FOR GERMANY, THE UK, SPAIN AND FRANCE?!?!
>SH-SHUT UP LIBTARD

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>Culture and languages are social constructs too.
Yeah, a Bulgarian is actually right in saying so.

>each nation needs its own state

wrong its exactly the opposite. a state needs a dominant nation. you either take an existing people one or forcefully mold a new one from several different people. as an example look to the usa, they gave up their identities and formed a new one. the same will be done to europe if it federalizes. mutts already see us as just one country even if its out of ignorance its a start. and the idea of a european identity is not unpopular among zoomers.

>Austria

>switzerland
>germany
massively decentralised
>italy
suffered from cultural and linguistic clashes when it was first formed and even today is rife with separatists

>massively decentralised
so what?

italy and germany have already been mentioned
>the UK
>France
subjugated and pretty much annihilated most of their minority languages and cultures
>SPAIN
just look the basque terror attacks and the catalan independence movement

you are just going around citing petty grievances and make nonsense problems like hurr its decentralized. fact is the major european countries, germany, italy, uk, france and spain where are all stable and rich countries forged out of uniting smaller former sovereign states. germany and italy are the most notable examples which goes to show that nations are formed when it is convenient for it to be formed or if it is annexed. you had austria begging to be absorbed into a prussian state which it rivalled for centuries

>massively decentralised
that's indeed what a FEDERATION is
hence why we want a european FEDERATION

Oh please, stop being so retarded.

Why do you think our politicians call themselves "Europeans" now, instead of their actual race?

European state = Second USA

so going around and saying a european superstate is some crazy idea is intellectually dishonest. its been done many times on the european continent no less. even the UK is a conglomeration of 4(?) countries. those countries even have their own parliaments..

EU? No thanks!

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>he goes around telling people his race, phenotype, and 23andme data instead of just saying hello

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>European state = Second USA
which is indeed a federation
>Why do you think our politicians call themselves "Europeans" now, instead of their actual race?
same reason why someone from hamburg calls themselves a german as well as a hamburger. Because he lives in the German Federation and in the bundesland of Hamburg,

I voted for the green party candidate because she didn't put up any election posters.
I voted for the social democrats in the local election.

>which is indeed a federation
No, it's a melting pot fake-state.

And now you can guess what the "United States of Europe" will be...

Common identity for both Germans and Italians already existed for a long time before Germany or Italy formed you retard

Not gonna vote, it's a waste of time.

Low iq

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>Yeah I vote Podemos, what gave it away?

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I voted for the Brexit Party.

Most other parties on the ballot were a joke. I take the Lib Dems and the Greens more seriously than the two major parties these days, and UKIP is fast becoming the new BNP.

>I voted for the Brexit Party.
>Most other parties on the ballot were a joke

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lega or fdi

Based

I'm going to vote for my local right-wing populists fuck the EU

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>look up candidates
>they are all shit
wtf even if voting mattered this would be a bad crop

No one.

this but unironically

i voted for based timmermans, who will save europe with coordination of SOCIAL and FISCAL policy

Lega. I'll vote Lega.
I'm a Southron immigrant with italian citizenship and nowadays the only party that isn't utterly retarded is Lega. Sad times

The language and ethnicity were unifying factors (and religion obviously). Do you really belive sicilians differ from piedmontese as much as they differ from, say, lithuanians? Retarded canuck

Based ALDE

Ill vote for them greens

>The language and ethnicity were unifying factors
Not really. Modern "Italian" is a fake language based on the Florentine dialect that someone decided should be the language for everyone. All the small pre-unitarian states had their own language

Yeah. They had their own ITALIC language. They were still closer to one another than say German or Greek or whatever

>instead of their actual race?
oh my, the germans are at it again

I'm a French citizen and apparently I can vote in the EU elections.
What's a part that is economically right wing but pro-EU (or at least not actively supporting Frexit)? I'm considering either Les Européennes or Les Républicains

>They had their own ITALIC language.
That's a meme. If you say it that way, then you could call Spanish also an ITALIC language, because they are also pretty similar. I know, what I'm talking about, I learned both languages in school.

Some Passato Remoto spoken in the South is much more distinct than Spanish is for example.

>What's a part that is economically right wing but pro-EU (or at least not actively supporting Frexit)? I'm considering either Les Européennes or Les Républicains
Whatever party is in ALDE I guess.

Well it was called Italic because it was in the geographical location known as Italy. They were Latin languages just like Spanish and French

Based Aldi of course.

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>What's a part that is economically right wing but pro-EU (or at least not actively supporting Frexit)?
ALDE, so in France probably Macron's party

The EPP

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Spanish has its own history and the way its grammar works is different from that of Italian (ci/ne for example), even if the tenses are the same
And say what you want but I think vocab-wise Italian languages are still closer to each other than Spanish, except maybe Sardinian (which isn't even in the same branch)

No Italic language sounds as weird as French to the native Italian speaker. French is literally completely unintelligible if you've never learnt it

Italian was literally created by a Freemason (Garibaldi).

Nuff said.

Nonsense. Try understanding traditional Sardinian or Sicilian if you're from the north, or if you're from the south Venetian/Lumbard