Hi Jow Forums
Any helleni friend to tell me a bit more about New Democracy? It seems that this right-wing party is rising since more than a year, despite the current economical state of Greece.
Can someone bother to explain me why?
What do they offer? Tax cuts? Do they have a populist or a kind of serious program?
I'd be joyful to learn more about their stances, but I'm having a hard time to find anything in english (or french)
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Cucked party and corrupt af alongside woth PASOK. One of the two parties that lead us to bankruptcy. They larp as the main conservative party while they parade on pride parades, said yes about gay marriage in 2015 and they voted for the first mosque of Athens while they were saying they wouldn't allow it. The true conservative and patriotic party is Golden Dawn which the corrupt media fight with passion because they fear a Eurosceptic party gaining power like in other European countries.
Why are they polling at 37% in the latest polls then? Do you have any link to their european program/their national stances?
Do they have a regular centre-left globalist policy? If yes, I don't understand how they can be so popular in such a country like Greece
Because politics here after the fall of the military junta in 1974 are just a big joke.
Whole governments were being elected promising jobs to the voters on the public sector in the 1980s-2000s. Nowadays old grandpas and grannies that are usually out of touch with the real world elect the same and the same parties that destroyed Greece and its next generations. They elected SYRIZA as a punish to the previous governments but SYRIZA was proven to be worse than the last governments. They're now going to elect New Democracy pretty much because theyre weak and don't wanna take a big decision for the good of the country. In 2-3 years the people that will vote for New Democracy this year are going to blame them for doing nothing, that's the only thing I'm sure about.
Oh boy
Our elders also tend to vote for centrist party, and they have the highest turnout results. That's how we got McRond.
They're pro European and are considered right wing but they're obivousi somewhere in the middle, they have a few Muslim members of the parliament which makes the claim that they're right wing even funnier.
nd.gr
Obviously*
Anyways there's no hope for us for the next 4 years at least, I'm really curious which party they're going to elect in the elections of 2023.
Got it. Thanks mate
>What do they offer? Tax cuts? Do they have a populist or a kind of serious program?
Tax cuts and reducing state employees. Run of the mill neoliberal economic programme
Bullshit that's what Trump supports and he's neoliberal. You're using the wrong terms.
Is he? A protectionist head of state can be considered as a neoliberal?
And what about his big public investment plan regarding all the US infrastructures? I don't hear his mention that anymore
That's pretty impressive. It means that nearly 40% of greek voters support a classical-liberal program. I don't know how things are going in greece right now, but I remember going to Athens and Thessaloniki a few years ago, before and after the crisis, and they looked like pretty ruined cities.
That's not a bad plan and it's certainly better than the atrocious social democrat/neoliberal golem that is SYRIZA.
Syriza was voted in 2015 to end austerity. They failed miserably but got reelected because the alternatives were the corrupt parties of former decades, golden Dawn and KKE which doesn't really hide that they're somewhat Stalinist. Further austerity has taken a toll on Syriza and they're projected to lose euro and municipal elections and the national ones which will be held later that year.
Many are undecided though.
I think the same. Why not go full neoliberal. Because of some ridiculous gibs once or twice a year? Bullshit.
later this year*
Interesting. Despite living in deep austerity, it seems that many will to go further to end the debt crisis once for all, is that so?
We never really had true neoliberalism anyways, what sprung up in the 70s disappeared completely by the 80s and never returned.
Everybody is projecting ND to win with a margin of 3,5 to 7,5%. Polls have been proven to be off in recent elections but there is anger against Syriza.
The debt isn't much of a hot topic right now since there's a 3,5% budget surplus obligation till 2020 and debt payments are being made as scheduled. Greece has even applied to the IMF for an early full repayment of the loans we got from them. According to the troika's plan the debt will reach low levels somewhere around 2060. It's bleak.
At the time most of Europe was ran by social democratic parties. Neoliberalism started with Reagan and Thatcher in the 80s and over the years spread to rest.
cucks honestly i would either go for golden dawn or KKE
>2060
>I'm glad to be born Greek but I doubt I'll live my life here. It was good knowing you Greece but I'm jumping off this sinking ship
Ignore the second greentext
They are the party that ruled Greece before the current one, nothing new.
That's why we all vote for Golden Dawn.