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>7% figure for FFG is good
Good if you are opposed to them, sure.

I know that, that wasn't the question.
What is her connection to America? Was she born or raised there?

We need the np to turn to this environmentalist stuff, scoop up some votes

>What is her connection to America? Was she born or raised there?
I didn't know of any connection

>Walsh, who was born in Boston and raised along the Mayo-Galway border in Shrule, was crowned the Rose of Tralee in 2014

Fucking carpet bagger

Get the NP lads to plant native trees in Roscommon while the Greens are busy queuing up for avocado smoothies and luxurious coffees in Dublin.

>Hazel Chu was asked about whether Irish people are ready for their policies, like hikes in carbon tax:
>“I think they are but they need to be brought through to their process,” she said.
J U S T

Yeah, I'm actually thinking of joining the NP just to push an eco angle. God this is two May 25ths in a row where the rest of the population has left me in despair.

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>Hazel chu
Shur she's as irish as anyone

Now if she said that in China Winnie the Pooh would probably sentence her to work in a coal plant for life.
It's not all bad desu. I was expecting worse, I kinda felt that the greens were going to do well based on a few factors, like that people forgot their time in government, having decent grassroots, and are always transfer friendly over environmental issues when under that they're just another Labour party. People are sick of the crap FF, FG, SF and Labour put up and Greens are an easy transfer for people to go to, particularly as there's not really many alternatives running. In a general election I don't think they'll do as well if they start proposing carbon taxes and are more in focus. And it hasn't really been a great election for anyone else.

>they need to be brought through to their process
Don't even know what this is supposed to mean?

>Don't even know what this is supposed to mean?
More propaganda I'm guessing.

I read it as something like the Irish need to have the taxes brought on them slowly, boil the frog.

Low IQ stale pale males need to be enlightened

>/éire/pol/ SEETHING
>Journal.ie SEETHING
>lefties (sort of) SEETHING
Pretty good election desu. The candidates we look set to send to Europe are mostly level-headed and capable. And I don't know why the Greens doing well seems to piss so many people off.

However, of potentially greater interest is the RTÉ exit poll:
rte.ie/news/elections-2019/2019/0525/1051603-rte-tg4-exit-poll/
>60% of the population believe it is important to use, promote and protect the Irish language
>77% are in favour of a United Ireland, with 23% against.
>Almost 90% of voters feel that the Government needs to prioritise climate change more.
>42% of voters trust this Government to manage the economy and public spending well.
>52% of voters agreed with the statement that "people are coming into Ireland illegally, staying here and freeloading off the State".
>70% of voters agree that on the whole immigration has benefited Irish society.
>82% of voters say Ireland should remain a neutral country in all aspects, while a third of voters agree that Ireland should be part of "the proposed European Armed Forces."
>85% of Irish voters are delighted that Ireland has become more liberal in recent years.
>59% of voters have indicated that they believe the country is going in the right direction.
>89% of voters believe there should be more policies to resolve the gap between rich and poor.
>82% of voters agreed that local issues such as homelessness are much more important than European issues.
>76% of voters surveyed agree with the statement that they are tired of listening to so called experts or elites who do not speak for me
A mixed bag really.

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But surely Connolly would have loved to have her as a member of his Lesbian brigade during the 1916 Rising?

>and 14% for Social Democrats
They're unlikely to get a EU seat at least.

>Granted it's not great when you have Ciaran "Shares in 6 oil companies" Cuffe
He inherited those shares and sold them almost immediately.

>FFG
Stop getting your news from the Journal.ie comments section

% of voters agreed with the statement that "people are coming into Ireland illegally, staying here and freeloading off the State".
Isn't that an objective fact? Are 48% afraid of being called racist for not ignoring the truth? Absolute clown world desu

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how did irish manage to go from hillbilly fundamentalists to ultra liberal rich people in a few decades?

>I don't know why the Greens doing well seems to piss so many people off
Because they are just short of commies on the lefty scale?

>hillbilly fundamentalists
Stop believing anglo propaganda, we were never that.
>rich people
top kek

>I don't think they'll do as well if they start proposing carbon taxes and are more in focus
I imagine the Greens are going to be very careful on the subject of carbon taxes. They can't be deaf to the hostility towards them on the ground, and the last thing they want is another Water Charges debacle on their hands.

They're really not. They're definitely socially "progressive", true (although how much they actually care about non-environment issues is up for debate). But they believe in regulated capitalism as a vehicle for their green policies.

>They're definitely socially "progressive"
arent ALL your parties socially progressive?

All the mainstream ones are basically yeah, though some try and hide it a bit to keep some voters on their side, while some push it even more.

with 85% of voters saying they love the country is getting more liberal im not sure which voters are they exactly trying to attract

>They're really not. They're definitely socially "progressive"
That's my point. Economic policy isn't what worries me about them, it's their support for ALL leftist social policies.

I'd tell you to kill yourself but that's probably already on your mind because you're such a pathetic weeb piece of shit

The 35% that voted against abortion.

Decline in prestige of the Catholic Church

On paper, yes (the main ones at least). But when you drill down into the grassroots, it gets more complicated. FF in particular have a very conservative grassroots electorate. The problem is, after the role they played in the recession, they have found that their party base has shrunk. Hence they have had to pander to lefties on issues like abortion to try and boost their popularity. However, not only do lefties see through this ploy, but it has caused a disconnect between the party leadership and the party members.

FG have a similar issue but on a much smaller scale. They benefit from being slightly less socially centre right than FF and have a stronger following in urban areas.

What's the issue?

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so old village people like all right wing parties

Is there anything else to do here except drinking???? t. spurdo

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Sure.

in my country everyone supports abortion except extreme right and always have, its never been an issue
but this disconnect between party and members is the same with our main cetre right party

>from being slightly less socially centre right
They aren't socially centre right. Socially centre at the very best. Leaning towards the left.

>82% of voters say Ireland should remain a neutral country in all aspects, while a third of voters agree that Ireland should be part of "the proposed European Armed Forces."
Those numbers don't match up.

Being such a traitor to the nation

FFG works because
>FF and FG are nigh indistinguishable on policy
>They're propping each other up in government
>They have dominated Irish politics for nearly a century

casey SURGE when?

He needs all the FF transfers he can get as well as ones from some of the other independents and small parties to have any chance. No idea how he's doing on tallies though.

When the transfers start coming in. It's the only hope for the D*blin right wingers to get any notice too when they start transferring to each other.

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That is a concern, I agree. But you have to remember that those policies are only of secondary concern to the Greens. If abortions were depleting the ozone layer, then you can be sure the Greens wouldn't be supporting abortion legalisation. And sending Green MEPs to Europe is a safe bet. They will spend most their time on environmental issues and will have little effect on social policy at home. After all, few expect the Greens repeat their success on the same scale in a general election.

>but this disconnect between party and members is the same with our main cetre right party
It's becoming a huge issue right across Europe. As traditionally centre right parties move closer to the centre in an attempt to boost their popularity, they find themselves alienating their grass roots and pushing their former supporters towards more radically right wing parties.

FG are socially centrist because they will only commit to social change once they are 100% certain that a majority of the public supports it. Socially progressive policies do not generally form the core of their party ideology. They are dragged right as a whole by their economic policies.

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>build up my YouTube recommended to contain lots of intellectually stimulating videos.
>watch a few football, and competitive eating videos
>All my good work is undone
>Start watching videos about obese Taiwanese children, and monkeys riding bicycles, as they start to appear in my recommended.
>problem worsens

Why does YouTube want me to be an idiot?

% of the population believe it is important to use, promote and protect the Irish language
But won't do anything about it
% are in favour of a United Ireland, with 23% against.
Can't even remember what this figure was before but it doesn't matter really, there'll always be a safe majority here that'd vote for a united Ireland, and no party would dare oppose it. It's the North that matters
>>Almost 90% of voters feel that the Government needs to prioritise climate change more.
*yawn*
% of voters trust this Government to manage the economy and public spending well.
42%?! After the Children's Hospital fiasco?
% of voters agreed with the statement that "people are coming into Ireland illegally, staying here and freeloading off the State".
Well you'd have to be a retard to not agree with 'people' being such a vaguely defined number. Tens? Hundreds? Thousands? I'd also find it more interesting if they were specific with race in that question
% of voters agree that on the whole immigration has benefited Irish society.
Food
% of voters say Ireland should remain a neutral country in all aspects, while a third of voters agree that Ireland should be part of "the proposed European Armed Forces."
Our "neutrality" has always been a sham, so I don't think they understand "in all aspects"
>% of Irish voters are delighted that Ireland has become more liberal in recent years.
>delighted
gonna puke
% of voters have indicated that they believe the country is going in the right direction.
urghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
% of voters believe there should be more policies to resolve the gap between rich and poor.
Mmmhm, good ould policies providing the answer to everything
% of voters agreed that local issues such as homelessness are much more important than European issues.
'European issues' is also fairly vague, does that mean what's happening in Europe as a whole, or the EU, what?
(1/2)

oof

>It's becoming a huge issue right across Europe. As traditionally centre right parties move closer to the centre in an attempt to boost their popularity, they find themselves alienating their grass roots and pushing their former supporters towards more radically right wing parties.
well, i can see where they are coming from if we are to be realistic
being conservative is toxic these days, especially among the youth, pretty much everyone is socially liberal while those that arent are more libertarian or nationalist than conservative
so they are just trying to adapt to todays conditions

>this quoting
Please stop

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my súil

All the Dublin right-wingers are meme-tier though.

greens are just leftists dissatisfied with mainstream leftist politics
and this is not america, being "economically right" means nothing, being free market is not right wing

>Why does YouTube want me to be an idiot?
It's easier for them to shill to idiots.

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Fuck that's an eyesore
>76% of voters surveyed agree with the statement that they are tired of listening to so called experts or elites who do not speak for me
Surprised, whenever I watch the news there doesn't seem to be too many "experts" coming in, and it's definitely even rarer in local news, so I'm wondering where they're getting this from
Her shiny head could indeed be used to reflect sunlight into British soldiers' eyes
No, so make the best of it. For the first time in ages I shall be having Guinness from outside a pub. Not manky cans though, but bottles of it that said something along the lines of the brew being that which was used in pubs between 1820 and 1970 or something, so it'll be interesting

>being "economically right" means nothing
It means not being a commie or commie sympathist.

as i said, this is not america and economy doesnt mean jack shit, half of right wing parties are left wing on economics

I think they were two separate questions.

What did I say that was traitorous?

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I know but that's still a significant amount of cognitive dissonance.
>The African candidate for Dublin City Central
Oh great, that chancer looks to have been elected.

>half of right wing parties are left wing on economics
It's possible to be socially left but economically right (and vice versa). Where you fall on the political spectrum depends on how those values/policies balance out. For example, I'm socially conservative but I'm a borderline social democrat economically. I usually fall just left of centre on political spectrum tests.

>Oh great, that chancer looks to have been elected.
Which one is he/she?

One that lied about being an asylum seeker or whatever probably.

irishtimes.com/news/politics/social-democrats-say-it-would-not-be-fair-to-comment-on-ellie-kisyombe-asylum-claim-1.3797217

Despite the referendum, abortion remains a contentious issue in Ireland. But no major party has the balls to commit to a third of the electorate that voted against it.

yea im socially conservative and left wing economics too, its very rare to see that these days

perhaps because theres no real electorate to begin with, even the minority who are against it, half of them are merely moderate liberals who think its going too far and half are old people from offaly

For fuck sake. The SDs are a fucking joke. I have no issue at all with immigrants running for office, but the controversy about her immigration status really highlighted that the SDs care far more about virtue signalling and pandering than anything else.

Very rare. And political parties with such values are even rarer.

It just strikes me as an untapped resource.

You made fun of éire/pol/

Yes, and it was an extremely patriotic thing to do. /éire/pol/ is full of West Brits.

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>Expecting anything good from Labour with a purple coat of paint

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>Very rare. And political parties with such values are even rarer.
true, all the "right wingers" these days seem to be those nationalistic "real liberal" types i cant stand

>It just strikes me as an untapped resource.
in order to do that you need to have them as a voting block and in this case you cant cause these are the groups which are in decline, have no morale and generally dont care about politics + instinctively reject radicalism

>Irish nationalists are west brits
Based retard

I never did expect anything good from them. They are living up to my expectations and more.

t. /éire/pol/.

When will you be attending your next Nigel Farage speech?

What is the best irish place in the countryside ?

>Farage is bad
Found the europhile west kraut

The thing about the Irish countryside is that the best places are the ones you never see advertised. Driving along a narrow country road in the summer with an archway of trees overhead. Hiking up a mountain via a path only known by locals. Having lunch in an isolated rural village that has somehow still retained its own local businesses.

Chances are that if you see something from Ireland advertised abroad, it's a tourist trap.

it would be nice if you stopped putting everyone who doesnt think the same as you into preconceived boogeyman categories

>Farage is bad
Yes. You'd have to be seriously mentally deficient to think otherwise. His politics preys on idiots.

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Go to the ex-yu thread and leave us be, ustase

The best thing about these elections is Dobson doing the coverage.

im sorry, i usually go to ex-yu but these days its full with weirdos and high school kids

Where I live. It's all for me though so no visitors allowed.

Decent post. I think you have to have some degree of democracy though. Just not too much.

I'd forgotten how a pro can handle slippery politicians.

t. r/Ireland

Another Healy-Rae elected lads.

Peadar Toibín looks an awful lot like Simon Coveney.

No, they're just as retarded as /éire/pol/. You both occupy different ends of the spectrum.

Have you ever seen them in the same room?

No worries bro