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>HOW DO YOU LIKE COMMUNISM NOW YOU SON OF A BITCH

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Tell us about New Zealand rugby

>Indonesia: Indian Islands
>Phillipines: Islands of King Phillips II
>Singapore: Lion hole
>Brunei: New Place
>Malaysia: Sailors Island
>Thailand: Land of Dai
>Vietnam: Land of Viet
>Cambodia: The city
>Laos: Kingdom of the Three Kings
>Myanmar:Swift and Strong
>Timor Leste:East Island
>Australia: Southern Island
R8

Actually "Timor Leste" is closer to meaning "East East".

People here are obsessed with it to an almost tribal level. Even at a highschool level it is very competitive. We would get of class to watch out top team play a rival school. Also the sibling rivalry of former colonies NZ, Aus and South Africa.
I don't really care about it myself but I have been to a game now and then. I took my family to All Blacks vs Australia game, it must have trolled some rugby meatheads to see someone in a hijab supporting our team.
The muslims here who are on social media know a bit because there is a player who is a convert.

met pagi aku cm tidur 1.2jam

hujan

You'd never be riding in the back willy's jeep, holding Ak's, hunting down commie remnants across Java while blasting Dara puspita's song
youtube.com/watch?v=N0EicyKXHvY

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time to be wagecuck again

>$0 dollars an hour
>I'll take it

Imagine being this much of a cuck

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Australia from Astralaya, land of missiles

*Ahem
*FUCK COMM*ES

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goblok

More Commies :)
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There are still communists in the Philippines?

Look up CPP-NPA-NDF

Ada anak kedokteran gak disini? Premedfag?

When will MK trial salt arrive?

soon

>Khilafah sampah teriak komunis

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Both are plagues, Utopian fags are literal NPCs easily to be played with

khilafah, communism, neoliberalism are all plague
WE PANCASILA

>tfw 5 cm peepee
I have accepted that I won't ever satisfy a woman's bedroom lust

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I would rather have that kind of D rather than lusting over your own sibling

>satisfy a woman
dumb beta

Does bathing with your sibling of one age difference at age 5 counts as one?

>By what standard are you basing this normal from?
Goddammit the fucking point is it's a different timeline. I know this hurts your fragile nationalism, but this is a thought exercise, nothing more. No one is advocating for this, okay?
>So this is the tweak? No important intelectuals like Kartini?
For something like this to reasonably happen, the point of departure might be pre-1900s. Different intellectuals would arise, some would stay. Look man, I'm not trying to predict one hundred percent. Again, thought exercise. It's for fun. It looks like most of you indons can't get this
>And risk there being much more state actor instead of a unified front that can be relatively more easily controlled? I think not
Ever heard of a divide and conquer strategy? You think that couldn't work?
>Alright, gimme a source on this one.
Just read up on what happened to the dozens of monarchs in Indonesia. Some might not be outwardly against the republic, but a lot were really trying to keep as much power as they can from the republic. Sultan Hamid II is an example, he supported the idea of Indonesia, but he wanted to keep the federal government that the dutch instituted.
Sure, maybe, but that's not the point. The point is that this is a thought exercise, just trying to discuss what might've happened. I am not saying in anyway that this is good.
>read more books
Alright, can you point me to a few?
>I legit cringed on these
Why? Because it went against everything they taught you at school?

Goddammit I should've known it was too good to be true. You indons just can't take something like this. You're all too sensitive to anything that just challenges a little bit of our national foundations. Oh well.

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Daily reminder for tittyfag that your sister is genetically engineered to be a perfect mating partner for you.

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>Bahasa Inggris
Yikes
Post yang bahasa Indonesia lah biar keras

BASED

>Goddammit the fucking point is it's a different timeline. I know this hurts your fragile nationalism, but this is a thought exercise, nothing more. No one is advocating for this, okay?
I know but you gotta admit that it's a far left field from the actual reality. The reason why we are so united is because dutch is so bad at managing its colonies
>For something like this to reasonably happen, the point of departure might be pre-1900s. Different intellectuals would arise, some would stay. Look man, I'm not trying to predict one hundred percent. Again, thought exercise. It's for fun. It looks like most of you indons can't get this
I get it, it's just a fanfiction if you will, of alternate universe.
>Ever heard of a divide and conquer strategy? You think that couldn't work?
Divide and conquer? of state puppets? at the end of the day the "conquer" part will result in a unified whole.
>Just read up on what happened to the dozens of monarchs in Indonesia. Some might not be outwardly against the republic, but a lot were really trying to keep as much power as they can from the republic. Sultan Hamid II is an example, he supported the idea of Indonesia, but he wanted to keep the federal government that the dutch instituted.
I need the same book as the one you read, fanfic writer

I guess your fellow indons' militancy stems from the fact that, nowadays, the state is the best bet to ensure citizenship in these days of late capitalism. and nothing is more insulting to the state than to quesiton it's geographic authority. go and ask a Spanish person what do they think of catalan separatism, they usually start to foam with anger.

but you are right the state is not a given. also, i look forward for bigger polities than the nation-state.

i don't doubt there are those that believe in this. but you should ask yourselves, did people lie to me about communism? case in point: point to me ONE communist revolution that wasn't actually a national revolution that, when concluded, improved the standing of such nation in the International System.

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so how the fuck during Japanese occupation there were no strong nationalist movement when Japanese literally released the chain of nationalist movement that suppressed by Dutch colonial goverment? this is the first time they allowed nationalist to hoist national flag and the usage of indonesian language as lingua franca as it was chartered on youth pledge 1928
dan tentang revolusi sumatra timur cek aktor2 intelektualnya bukan cuma di sumatra sja yg terkena dampak revolusi oleh kaum kiri, keraton,kesuhunan dan aristrokrat di Jawa juga terkena dampaknya
>Zaman Bergerak: Radikalisme Rakyat Di Jawa 1912 - 1926 by Takashi Shiraishi
>Sejarah Kecil "Petite Histoire" Indonesia by Rosihan Anwar
>Revolusi Nasional di Tingkat Lokal by Ratna Idraswari Ibrahim
>Satu Abad Kebangkitan Nasional & Kebangkitan Perpustakaan by
>This one also interesting Meraba Indonesia by Ahmad Yunus.
>As you said, 40 years, compared to hundreds of years of regional identity and culture.
are you implying during national awakening we erased regional identities aand local cultures?

It's not even militancy, it's just that people are poking fun at the ridiculous story that he try to base on reality. Kinda like The Axis won WWII type of stuff. Sure, just a bit of fun I guess

have sex

>Satu Abad Kebangkitan Nasional & Kebangkitan Perpustakaan by Dr. Sutarno

Are Indons still butthurt about Timor-Leste ?

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He said the point of departure is 1900 so all bets are off I guess.
Might as well make the Nusantara Kingdom spanning the entire archipelago + Malaya + Philippines because alien tech crash landed in front of The Jogjakartan palace frontyard during tea parties

we already forget them desu

also this one
>Tan Malaka, Gerakan kiri, dan Revolusi Indonesia: Agustus 1945-Maret 1946 by Harry Poeze
judul2 buku yg saya posting hampir semuanya diterbitkan post orba dan reformasi

>Might as well make the Nusantara Kingdom spanning the entire archipelago + Malaya + Philippines because alien tech crash landed in front of The Jogjakartan palace frontyard during tea parties
based. just like my grand strategy games.

The butthurt ones are military veterans, Soeharto new order boomers politicians and generals, we still maintained good economy and political relation with them since the rich ones there owning shares in Indo companies

>all chinks against Khilafah

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Good stuff, might translate this to Indo

Yes. They NTR'd our milf.

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>Yang ga suka khilafah mesti cinak!! kapir!! Jihaaad!!
Bro, khilafah itu sistem gagal, lebih gagal dari komunis, nggak ada negara yang sudi makenya. Lihat seperti apa orang-orang pendukung khilafah, semua manusia gagal madesu.

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Leche!
Walang kakain!

Why is there no such thing as jihad on crime?

Nice damage control chinks.

All the mob beatings doesn't count?
Captured criminals get to spend time tied to a tree filled with weaver ants on their dick and in siamese village they go the extra mile by nailing the culprit's ear to the tree.
Taking down organized crime of course requires guns that the public doesn't have.

because islam is a scam

are you perchance an Indonesian from outside of Jawa? Sumatra? Maybe west java (not including Jakarta)?

Jihad may not necessarily mean violent acts. Jihad roughly means "struggle", and IIRC, based on what I read about the concept, even personal struggles (i.e. trying to overcome sins or issues) counts as a "jihad" in Islam.

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>far left field
Not really. Indonesian nationalism only started in the early 20th century. Before that Indonesia divided into different countries was much more likely. As I said, what if it just never took off? You don't seem to get this premise.
>The reason why we are so united is because dutch is so bad at managing its colonies
Wrong. That is exactly the reason why Indonesia was feasible. The dutch was quite effective at stomping down local rebellions. By the time Japan arrived, there was barely any strong regional separatist movements happening.
>Divide and conquer? of state puppets? at the end of the day the "conquer" part will result in a unified whole.
Heh...why is it so hard for you to understand this? Historically, Japan divided maritime south east Asia into three military administrations, Sumatra and Malaya, java, and then borneo and the eastern islands. Now do you think it's impossible, if an indonesian nationalist movement was never popular in the first place, for Japan to instead support regional nationalists, especially centered around these divisions?
>need the same book as the one you read, fanfic writer
What? You don't know about the anti feudalism policies in the 50s? They didn't teach you that at school? Did they teach you who designed the national emblem?
Read my posts, nigger. I've already said WHAT IF INDONESIAN NATIONALIST MOVEMENTS NEVER TOOK OFF. Pre 1900 this was very possible. So if we follow this, when Japan arrived, there was never any indonesian nationalist movement in the first place. Scary thought, huh?
>are you implying during national awakening we erased regional identities aand local cultures?
No, but the republicans certainly stripped down the local monarchs alright. And what I was trying to say was that the nationalist movement was much, much younger than the regional identities.

Because you're dismissing what I said. I don't know why, maybe because it hurts your fragile sense of nationalism? I don't know.

how expensive is a flat in singapore? asking for a friend

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I have in my mind the filth involved in human trafficking and sexual exploitation.
Better to die purging that filth than some retarded mission to kill shia or Christians.

Kapa wars continue, while duts Scilence on Chink sinking our boats

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Tell your friend to not be a retard and just google it

Not really but I hope they're happy eating tree bark for the rest of their lives though.

no one cares about them.
[spoiler] also please post more Ritsu [/spoiler]

Nop, I'm born and raised Jakartafag.

nice. i was going to yogyakarta, but had a change of plans: going to base my research at jakarta now.

Based
>le chink
Fuck off, I'm 100% javenese christian

Not that scary considering at that times, pra 1900an perlawanan2 yg bersifat lokal seperti pemberontakan petani2, aristrokrat daerah dan pemuka agama di berbagai daerah sering kali terjadi apalgi pemerintah Kolonial Hindia Belanda dengan ironisnya melakukan Pax Nederlandica to unite the archipelago under the banner of Dutch East Indies with the patron of Kingdom of Netherland and subdued local kingdoms who'd still refused Dutch rule, take a look of Dutch invasion of Bali under pretense Sasak muslim oppression by Bali monarchs in Lombok, Jambi uprising or Banjarmasin war and many others, these are also the catalyst of National movement during national awakening in first part of 20th century.
>but the republicans certainly stripped down the local monarchs alright
yeah stripped down only the political power not culturals ones since the local monarchs also acted as symbolism and cultural preservation of local ethnics culture.

Why? Yogya is comfier than Jakarta.

jakarta has a higher living cost

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Get a life, bro. /asean/ is a normie central.

Keep screeching HTI/Muslim brothercuck fags your transnational Islamism wont go further here literally similar tactic with trans national Zionism movement in Europe during 19th to 20th century and Khilafah is unfounded in Al-Quran and Hadist literally projections of inferiority complexes by Muslim who'd been dumbed down by Ottomans monarchs during the last centuries of their rules

based
cringe

Yes that's what I've been trying to say. Imagine if Indonesian Nationalist movement just never came to be, the nationalist movements would instead be regional, don't you think?
>yeah stripped down only the political power
Yeah, well it's enough for a lot of them to resist and end up imprisoned or even killed by the republicans.

>normie central
>normie
You're joking right? Where can I find my fellow indoneets in Jow Forums then?

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Why?

Mantap aloysius

Did your grandparents converted around 1965?

don't brazilbro jakarta full of cunt

Gib me bunda gf plox

and what kind of republicans? karena konflik ideologi pun acapkali terjadi di kalangan Republikan dimana Kaum nasionalis terpecah dgn kaum moderat yg mengedepankan jalur persuasif utk berdiplomasi dgn bangsawan lokal dan kaum radikal kiri yg menginginkan revolusi kekerasan utk menghapus feodalisme bangsawan lokal.

What happened in 65?

talking about east sumatra revolution i just wanna say that i miss this nigga like you wouldn't believe

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65-67 commie purge

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MY

RUBBER

the more time passes the more I forget how to speak Tagalog

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mass conversion of muslim abangan to christianity because of

Nothing happened in '65