What the fuck britain?

>life starts at birth
proofs?

tell me what life was like in the womb?

What's barbaric is bringing a child into this world for their own shot at conscious existence trapped in a cage of retardation.

Yes, and let the child suffer for his whole life for his genetic disabilities from his mother.

I don't quite remember. Probably a lot of floating around in amniotic fluid.
What's your point?

>I don't quite remember.
It is not a matter of remembering. A foetus can't remember anything, it isn't even self aware.

When does a fetus turn into a human?

when it is born. the burden of proof is on you if you say otherwise.

otherwise you're forcing rape victims and unhealthy people to have kids that nobody wants and nobody will take proper care of or are a drain on society.

What was your first birthday like, may I ask?

don't remember.

i had a birth certificate, a name and rights though. which is a big step up from the day before when I was nothing more than a plant.

I don't care whether babies or fetuses or whatever die or not but isn't destroying something that is going to become a human tantamount to killing a human?

I'm not talking about sperm or eggs by themselves but fertilized embryos.

Based Huguenot bringing the heat

>that is going to become a human

this is the key part. it's not human yet, and if action is taken quickly enough it never needs to go through the ordeal of being one. if your parents are considering abortion, chances are the world and you are much better off if they get one.

life isn't that sacred. you're a warmongering american, you should know this.

>i had a birth certificate, a name and rights though
>abortion apologists think a piece of paper with some ink on it confers life to babies
lmao

Babies can't even differentiate between themselves and their mother, they think they're a single being. Kids don't properly develop all their mental faculties before age 6, there's no reason not to allow post birth abortion.

I am a gnostic

so you have no problems with state sanctioned abortion?

if she's completely nuts and the fetus hasn't even started to form then who would benefit from her having a child? the kid would be taken away immediately anyway and probably be disabled. she's not going to be a parent, she's an actual retard.

>then who would benefit from her having a child?
the child, by virtue of not being murdered :)

no

i wish i was aborted desu

I mean, I know Americans are used to have retarded moms, but that shouldn't be the norm.

>if she's completely nuts
her level of disability was not mentioned
>the kid would be taken away immediately anyway and probably be disabled
not necessarily the family could help (not arguing that that wouldn't have its own complications), also what is the probability of the child being born with a disability?

>her level of disability was not mentioned
Not him, but it says in the second paragraph of the article:
>According to the Catholic News Agency, the pregnant mother has developmental disabilities and is “believed to have the mental capacity of a grade school-age child.” Consequently, U.K. judges and doctors have decided she should not have a child, and that an abortion would be less emotionally traumatic.

Depends on the circumstances. I'd rather make getting pregnant require means testing and the potential parents harshly punished for failing this and still getting pregnant. It would involve an abortion, unless it was dangerously late term. This would of course exclude cases of rape, in which the parent should be supported by the state to ensure the child does not have a fucked up life.
There are far too many scummy cunts breeding and this isn't coming from some rich prick. I shouldn't have been born and my parents irresponsibly brought children into this world they not only could not care for and ultimately did not want to sacrifice their selfish destructive lifestyles in order to provide a positive household. Women also use pregnancy as a means of entrapment to ensnare a partner. Given the steady increase in divorce rates, clearly this isn't helpful.
There is nothing to be gained from allowing generations of poverty to continue. The only people who benefit from people like that are parasitic corporations who benefit from easily manipulated, ignorant consumers.

yes but the specific medical condition was not mentioned, I'm more curious about what her specific disability is, a trisomal disorder or something else?

>the Catholic News Agency

fucking hell disregarded

>Consequently, U.K. judges and doctors have decided she should not have a child, and that an abortion would be less emotionally traumatic.

Yeah, that isn't something a judge should be deciding in any civilised society.

>bongs are so inbred that the government aborts its citizens retarded babies

October 5: Today my life began. My parents don’t know it yet, but I am here. I’m a girl; I’ll have blond hair and blue eyes. All my genetic imprints are present, also that I will have a weakness for flowers.

October 19: Some say I am not even a real person yet, and only my mother exists. But I am a real person, just like a crumb of bread is bread. My mother exists, and I do, too.

October 23: Now my mouth opens. In about a year I will be able to laugh and speak. I know what my first word will be: Mommy.

October 25: Today my heart began to beat. From now on it will beat for the rest of my life without ever stopping to take a break. Only after many years will it stop beating and I will die.

November 2: Every day I grow more. My arms and legs are forming, but it will be a long time until I can stand on those tiny legs and run into the arms of my mother, until I can pick flowers with those tiny arms and hug my father.

November 12: Tiny fingers are starting to grow on my hands. How small they still are! One day I will be able to stroke my mother’s hair.

November 20: Just today the doctor told my mother that I live beneath her heart. Oh, how happy she must be. Are you happy, Mommy?

November 25: Mommy and Daddy are probably trying to come up with a name for me. But they don’t know that I am a little girl. I would love to be called Susie. My, I have already grown so much!

December 10: My hair is starting to grow. It is soft and with a beautiful shine. Wonder what kind of hair Mommy has.

December 13: Soon I will be able to see. It is dark around me. When Mommy gives birth to me I will see sunshine and flowers. But the best will be to see my Mommy. I wonder what you look like.

December 24: I wonder if Mommy hears the whispers of my heart. Some children are born ill. But my heart is strong and healthy. It beats evenly: bum-bum, bum-bum. Mommy, you will have a healthy little daughter!

December 28: Today my mother killed me. She just killed me

This, unironically.

:(

yank anti-abortionists making articles about us? nobody here cares about abortion lol

it's not mentioned to make you click on the url to give ad revenue to washington examiner you bloody oaf

That's not how generics work. If that Was the case genetically "normal" people wouldn't have disabled kids.

So like, when it's halfway out it still isn't human yet, or is just the half that is out human?

nice

this but unironically, we should be allowed to kill people when they're asleep too

You're definitely a retard. What the actual fuck is that logic?

More concerned with the forced part than the abortion part.

I can understand abortion being legal for purely pragmatic reasons involving it being better than underground abortions, but what I cannot fucking understand for the life of me is this weird almost psychotic attitude abortionists adopt whereby it is completely and utterly inconceivable to have ethical qualms about killing a human, especially since I doubt any of them would defend post-birth abortions despite there being little to no difference between 3rd-trimester fetuses and babies. What's more, some go even further and start talking about "just clumps of cell" (literally applicable to any and all organisms) or even "parasites", as if they're trying to make the fucking zygote/fetus responsible for their fucktarded inability to properly use contraception.

But perhaps what most annoys me is how most of these people would likely freak out if one were to kill a pet (e.g. a dog) just because "it's inconvenient", and then proceed to call said pet a "parasite which was just a clump of cells", claim that there cannot under any circumstances be any ethical stance against killing dogs out of personal convenience, and chant dumb slogans like "my house my rules". But somehow this anti-humanist insanity has gotten so far that we appear to value dog lives above human lives.

> but what I cannot fucking understand for the life of me is this weird almost psychotic attitude abortionists adopt whereby it is completely and utterly inconceivable to have ethical qualms about killing a human, especially since I doubt any of them would defend post-birth abortions despite there being little to no difference between 3rd-trimester fetuses and babies.

I'll defend infantcide because most niggers would do it anyway.

By this logic you should be okay with killing any baby younger than 5 because that's when you start collecting long term memories

Why not? Should someone else get to decide in this situation, or do you simply not think bringing a retarded child into the world is cruel?

Do you take issue with a judge being able to sentence someone to life in prison? that's far crueler than aborting a cluster of cells with potential for life.

This. Also how they tend to be the big opposition to the death penalty to murderers lmao

The only coherent position is to be anti-abortion and anti-death penalty.

based mommy

>State sanctioned

The state and courts are separate you dingus.

Based judge