Why are they so poor?

>In 1819 Hungary still had serfdom and a huge financial crisis.

In 1888 Brazil still had slavary and couldn´t industrialize since almost nobody knew how to read and majority of people couldn´t go to school

maybe you should have asked your jesuits to build schools like we did.
I smell butthurt

>ended 200 years ago
it lasted for 300, though.

>in 1819 hungary still had serfdom and a huge financial crisis
serfdom isn't a bad thing and financial crises happen every 10 years, literally not an issue

your country has like 10 people, is flat and next to austria, why are you poor?

Concentration of land ownership, feudalism and slavery all hinder the proccess of industrialization, which is the real source of wealth

>In 1888 Brazil still had slavary and couldn´t industrialize since almost nobody knew how to read and majority of people couldn´t go to school

In 1888 Brazil still had slavery and couldn't industrialize since almost nobody knew how to read and majority of people couldn't go to school

And after that our elite didn´t want to know about industrialization since they used to make a lot of money exporting commodities

And when we tried to industrialize, USA financed a coup in the country in 1964

Slavs stole our money in 1918 and then they invaded us in 1944.
we had the same "latifundium system" like you, but we never called it that untill the commies take all the land and replaced the leadership with incomptent retards.

>serfdom isn't a bad thing and financial crises happen every 10 years, literally not an issue
You should found your own economics school. You could just say total bullshit like this with zero evidence and every Neoclassical out there would eat it up.

>And when we tried to industrialize, USA financed a coup in the country in 1964

Why would they do this?

The Jesuits built a great number of colleges in Brazil, but the Marquis of Pombal banished them from Portugal in the late 18th century, effectively leaving the colony with no education

Oye enfermo mental!!! Que weá te masturbai tanto con esa imagen; siempre ponis la misma wea. Brasileño conchetumadre cagao e la caeza

>when we tried to industrialize, USA financed a coup in the country in 1964
yeah and then the new government industrialized this country faster than any other government did in the other 142 years of independence
I don't like the military government but you can't argue that they did wonders for our economy.

Ignore him, it's part of the leftist mythology. The USA had very little involvement and the Military Regime managed to create a burst of economic and industrial growth

>Slavs stole our money in 1918 and then they invaded us in 1944.

makes sense

>In 1888 Brazil still had slavery and couldn't industrialize since almost nobody knew how to read and majority of people couldn't go to school
And after that our elite didn´t want to know about industrialization since they used to make a lot of money exporting commodities
And when we tried to industrialize, USA financed a coup in the country in 1964

And until 1930 only 4% of people knew how to read.
Education only became a thing in Brazil in 1970
While hispanic america had universities since 1560, Brazil only had its first university in 1924 because Portugal had forbidden the country to have universities, press, majority of people were forbidden to study, we were forbidden to have manufactures

In the case of Venezuela you indeed can "muh communism"

>every neoclassical out there would eat it up
the financial crises part they might agree with, but they would definitely disagree with the serfdom thing.

Cuba too. It was one of the best countries in Latam before Fidel Castro's involution

Well we used their wealth to maintain the schools they built.
based Bolsonaro
Slavs were second class citizens here. They owned nothing. They stole our national resources and took the private property of those who lived under their rule after 1920. They are the niggers of the world.

>The USA had very little involvement and the Military Regime

Operation Brother Sam
Operation Brother Sam was the codename given to Kennedy's plan to "prevent Brazil from becoming another China or Cuba". Kennedy believed Goulart was getting too friendly with anti-American radicals in the Brazilian government.[41] Declassified transcripts of communications between Lincoln Gordon and the US government show that predicting an all-out civil war, and with the opportunity to get rid of a left-wing government in Brazil, Johnson authorized logistical materials to be in place and a US Navy task force led by an aircraft carrier to support the coup against Goulart. These included ammunition, motor oil, gasoline, aviation gasoline, and other materials to help in a potential civil war in sending US Navy tankers that were coming from Aruba. About 110 tons of ammunition and CS gas were made ready in New Jersey for a possible airlift to Viracopos Airport in Campinas. Potential support was also made available in the form of an "aircraft carrier (USS Forrestal) and two guided missile destroyers (expected arrive in area by April 10), (and) four destroyers", which sailed to Brazil under the guise of a military exercise.[42]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1964_Brazilian_coup_d'état

Como alguém pode ser tão retardado?
Tem uma caralhada de documentos provando isso
Tem ÁUDIO do Lyndon Jhonson falando sobre isso
É bostonarista??

Lyndon B. Johnson receiving a briefing on events in Brazil on March 31, 1964, on his Texas ranch with Undersecretary of State George Ball and Assistant Secretary for Latin America, Thomas C. Mann. Ball briefs Johnson on the status of military moves in Brazil to overthrow the government of João Goulart

upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3b/LBJ-Brazil.ogg

No history of finance.

That is the main reason why countries are not rich, it has nothing to do with resources or even general intelligence.

>based bolsonaro
fuck that useless retard
the only good thing about him is his meme potential

Nem adianta discutir meu chapa, nem esquenta.

"Yes, let our backyard develop itself, because we are so good and want a lot of competition in the continent!!!

Huehuehue nem vou discutir!!! commie commie commie!!! Eu vi no Brasil Paralelo, seu commie huehuehuehue

Vou fazer arminha agora para ter mais emprego aqui!!! huehuehuehuehue
Bostonaro melior presidente!!

Ele nem é amigo de miliciano e nem contrata laraja!!

E o Moro é um heroi!!!!!

Huehuheuheuehuhee

Eu amo o Capitão América e me eduquei vendo filme de Hollywood!!!

Lincoln Gordon didn't even know when the coup would take place. Not even the civilian opposition knew. The US fleet was only called after the deposition of Goulart and would only reach Brazil more than a week after. It didn't left the Caribbean Sea. Not even the oil supplies were delivered. Fuck you and stop lying

Os áudios só provam que o presidente e o embaixador sabiam que algo estava acontecendo e foram pegos de surpresa, conjeturando apoio aos militares em caso de guerra civil, o que não aconteceu.

Continua com o espantalho. Ele faz você se sentir bem? Vai chupar o cu podre da Marielle

>Ended 200 years ago
(((((((criollos))))))) were a continuation of the colonial system to pretty much present day

As someone who has studied the history of Latin America it can mostly be attributed to burgers, caudillos, criollos and capitalism (see burgers)

>At least we can muh communism
Communist guerrillas funded by the USSR infested the region and led to several military regimes to purge the continent of the cancer, many communists then became politicians after the regime ended in Brazil and employed socialist policies.

>>Ended 200 years ago
>(((((((criollos))))))) were a continuation of the colonial system to pretty much present day

Those retardeds think that just because the colonization ended formaly the whole colonial system created by Portugal and Spain changed in the next day

>Communist guerrillas funded by the USSR
Which ones? As far as I know, they were in some cases funded by Cuba.

So why not chimp out and rebel?

>Those retardeds think that just because the colonization ended formaly the whole colonial system created by Portugal and Spain changed in the next day

These retarded think that just because the colonization formally ended the whole colonial system created by Portugal and Spain changed the next day

>implying we didn't
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rebellions_and_revolutions_in_Brazil

spoilers: the government always wins.

Capitalism and white elites

Because colonialism and forced mixing is irreversible

The USSR was in bed with the Brazilian government at the time and their secret service considered throwing Brazil into civil war, they also falsified documents to blame the US for the 1964 military regime.
brasil.elpais.com/brasil/2018/06/04/politica/1528124118_758636.html

Idiots like to blame the US for South America's problems but the USSR was 10000% more interested in it and the military regimes were necessary to stop the guerillas popping up everywhere.

Feels good to be middle class in this region of the world. Wouldn't change it for anything

>capitalism is bad

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education and IQ.

what's good about being middle class here? middle class here barely survives, our purchasing power is much lower than middle class in rich countries.

Lack of stability means people are less interested in investing. Mercosur doesn't help as it's protectionist. Pacific Alliance is the most based trading bloc around though.

you're slavs

the only answer is leftist economic policies delayed

> muh colonialism
that was a long time ago and it's a stupid answer

The Eternal American is keeping us down. They are to blame for all of our problems.

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Y qué se supone que prueba tu imagen? Chile sigue siendo una basura de país

This would have helped: crwflags.com/fotw/flags/int-bapa.html

It's a pity South American peoples seem to have a chip on their shoulder about the US. Look at what Chavez had to say. You guys should try to be as open as possible to the US and be free to attract their investment,

Yeah but im simple man. I'm content as long as I have a steady income to eat appropietly and can go out and meet interesting people. Don't see the appeal of flaunting that I live in a 1st world country like Colombians who move abroad

its da wypipo

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No Hungarians are fucking Asian-euro rape babies not slav
They used to be a fucking roaming horde of horseman and settled in Europe

>you will never be a descendant of spanish colonialists who is destined to rule latam countries

why even live?

si eso piensas de chile, imaginate como esta el resto

larping

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Why is it always this guy or the Macedonian one who make this kind of threads involving Latam?
I'm gonna make a thread about the Trianon Treaty.

what's wrong with these threads tho?
it's an interesting subject and I get to see what the take on it is from other countries in the region

lmao this retard

Que Francia y Suecia tengan mercados menos libres lo único que me indica es que no sirve como parámetro para medir desarrollo. En cualquier caso, probablemente vives en una casa pareada de ladrillo así que es normal que creas que Chile es mucho mejor que Argentina o Uruguay por ejemplo.

>austria more slavic than hungary
wierd chart

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Oligarchy and corruption
We we're fine in the Virreinato until the fucking borbons came to the power

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I don't have any problems at all, it's just that this is like the 3rd or 4th time in the last couple days that a thread with this topic is made, the answers are always the classic "muh colonialism" and other basic approaches that simply it's not worthy the time spent on reading the answers.

What would I give to live in a house and have a patio, I live in an apartment

>Chilean metrics consistently improving
>Argentinian metrics consistently degrading
>the only reason Argentina might find itself above Chile on some of them is because of all the inertia we gained in our golden era
>if current trends are maintained Chile is set to surpass us on all of them in a few decades

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They are good people

puta el weon flaite, largate de aqui o te denuncio a los carabineros por roto ordinario

dats some next level Chilean

Im not poor though, my lifestyle is basically no different from that of a middle class 1st worlder and I say this having spent 2 years in the states.

Also we've never been governed by a communist government, at least in this country, even though commmie illegal groups have wrecked havoc in rural areas in the past

maybe Chile is a trash but the other shitholes in brown-america are worst, can we just nuke them and have a happy life with Argentina?

That doesn't change that your accent sounds like a nigger accent in Spanish

Too much political populism and poor education.

>Nukes? Sorry pal, I may not be their biggest fan but that doesn't warrant genocide, calm down, we'll all make it together

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Try to imaginate a south America with just Chile, Argentina and Uruguay

I'm not form the Caribbean. My accent is strictly moderate northern Andean like 80% of colombians who live outside the Caribbean region according to the spanish accents classification, so I doubt this claim has any validity

Would you be so kind as to post some vids with the different accents you are talking about? The one I know is the one from tv shows and I'm starting to think that I've been meme'd about the way you guys talk

O sí, ni te caiga la menor duda que Chile es mejor, mucho mejor, que tú pais y uruguay; así lo atestiguan los indicadores SOCIO-ECONOMICOS; ni siquiera tu gratuidad educacional esta a la par de la CALIDAD....de nuevo, de la CALIDAD educacional de Chile; es más, en dos de mos ránking más prestigiosos de CALIDAD UNIVERSITARIA (QS y The Higher) te volamos la raja, INCLUSIVE, a ustedes -los argentinos- fueron EXCLUÍDOS de la evaluación PISA por DEFICIENTES RESULTADOS ACADÉMICOS y con pretensiones dolosas de burlar la prueba, SOLO TOMANDO COMO MUESTRA UN SECTOR DE SU SOCIEDAD, pero no un muestreo general. Todo esto es OBJETIVO y atestiguado, lo que demuestra que eres una caca como pais. Y eso que no te enrostro en tu cara los otros indicadores sociales, para no matarte. Ocúpate de tu Africa que es tú pais; practicamente eres UNICO PAIS DE AMERICA en donde MUEREN NIÑOS POR HAMBRE. Lo siento, no eres nadie.

>Argentina
lol

¿¿Qué te pasa??

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creo que esta copypasteando comentarios de sitios de noticias en internet
buscar en google esos nombres seguramente te lleve a algun perfil de usuario posteando esos comentarios

Extractive institutions.

obsessed

nice pasta

por que siempre los chilenos tratan de cagarse unos a otros demostrando que son mejores y diciendo que no dicen mas para no humilarte? es como penca eso porque asi uno no puede tener un debate tranquilo sobre si el pais es bueno o malo. bueno mejor disfruto mis vacaciones en disneyland

But they can muh capitalism.
Guess which is more effective at sucking the wealth out of a country :^)

youtube.com/watch?v=y8NYwcK7BWo

My accent is basically the same of this man when he is not imitating another region

post trump elections everything here is about bait and yous, and there's a lot of posters obsessed about getting yous, mostly zoomers and seriously mental older people

Damn, thanks a lot friendm the ones from pasto speak like ecuatorians/peruvians/bolivians

>los argentinos son simios
la novedad señoras y señores
foto relacionada, la misma wea

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now THIS is a facebook boomer commenting on politics if I ever seen one