Why the balkanic countries are so terrible to live in?

Bulgaria will be above Croatia on most charts in a year or two

If it doesn't then it wouldn't be used, and it's used more common than nominal because it actually considers the local currency.

Did Poland really have got so high wages?

Poland doesn't look good there, it's more like Sweden that is always the shithole of Scnandinavia and often worse even than Finland, but you always take the meme nominal number to feel better.

>PPP

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>Belarus
>1558$
Kek. Average salary here is 500$

occupations, wars and ethnic strife (because the populations weren't separated with borders along ethnic lines), mafia (government) with corruption and nepotism, majority low iq population (and brain drain of the few non-brainlets), foreign meddling in politics etc

Most of us don't give a damn about these things where as it seems Poles are really touchy about it

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wew, easy on the butthurt.

>PPP

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Probably he is from a Balkans country - watever that might be. I just asked because he's posting with a Croatian flag.

Why don't you go back to Bulgaria then?

"it shows greece as balkanic shithole, therefore it's not true"

Croatia and Slovenia are the only Balkan countries I've ever been to

based

>there's a bunch of people in the thread already that think it shows the actual salaries
Let¨s look at the actual salaries

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it makes no sense because it gives a false impression to whoever looks at the map
at least mention it's PPP, there's already a bunch of people in the thread that think it shows the actual salaries

Neither of them are "Balkans countries". You might be insane or a troll.

seems more accurate for croatia

what the fuck I only make 600 :-DDDDD

nominal salaries =! standard of living, which I mentioned, which is determined by purchasing power and not some nominal wages.

Seems outdated a bit.

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No it doesn't. PPP doesn't account for quality of living. It account for how cheap shit is and is incredibly misleading and biased toward poorer countries.

still misleading. most companies show salaries low to avoid taxes in turkey. i am supposed to work on minumum wage (350 dollars) but actually make around 2000 dollars. i bet same shit happens in balkanite countries too.

Freaking hell, is Ukraine ever going to recover?
Also Estonia can't be possibly above Czechia and Slovenia

>It account for how cheap shit is and is incredibly misleading and biased toward poorer countries.
No it doesn't. It indicates the local purchasing power meaning how much one can buy in local currency and its worth on the $

That's literally what I said.

>nearly double the average wage and just started to work

Well, on some days my life does not seem that bad.

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Just because your countrys economic is shit that you can't make it competetive enough to be like Germany and therefore make products cheaper doesn't mean that you can mislead people that Swede is richer than German.

This is some really heavy projection, jesus.

Which is directly attributed to the standard of living - means how literally well being you are.

No it doesn't. It doesn't take into account many factors like infrastructure which is incredibly important when talking about living quality. Being able to buy x amount of cheerios y amount cheaper doesn't mean you will have good infrastructure or health care.

Infrastructure in high PPP countries is mostly better than in low PPP countries.

>incredibly misleading and biased toward poorer countries
Do you think that if someone who buys a cake for a cheap price in Germany, then crosses the border into Switzerland, that cake is now magically 10x more valuable?

>how much one can buy in local currency and its worth on the $
Yes it shows how much local food he can buy, everything else cost the same as in the west, your coping with this simple fact is pretty cringe. PPP(Poor People Points) is meme statistic as sven said

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Balkan nations have some of the worst infrastructure of Europe.

And Ukraine has the WORST infrastructure in Europe. And it matches the map.

>iPhone X
buahahahahahahahahaha

Is Croatia really that low? I was there this summer and it was really expensive, even with Norwegian salaries I'm never visiting again because Greece and and Spain are much cheaper.

tf balkan and one of the best roads in europe

It's the same for everything you absolute tool, any other new phone, new car, new pc parts, new everything that isn't local, jesus you are retarded and brainwashed.

No shit, PPP doesn't derivative too far from GDP per capita. The infrastructure quality correlates to GDP per capita, not PPP.

Yes? If you sell it through similar channels in both countries, like a baking shop, you will get relatively a lot more for it in Switzerland than in Germany. The value of the cake is completely relative.

>The value of the cake is completely relative.
...meaning that the same amount of money has different purchasing power in both places, and thus PPP is more accurate.

Not in the context of comparing wages. PPP has its usages but it leaves out way to many factors. It's just too narrow, too many things aren't taken into account.

>Greece and and Spain are much cheaper.

doubt

Bulgaria has best roads in Europe?

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>It's just too narrow, too many things aren't taken into account.
It takes more things into account than nominal values, unless you unironically think you're suddenly 10% poorer/richer if the Swedish Krona changed its value 10% because of some faggot sucking dicks in the central bank.

why are all brazilian posters here like this
no they wont

>Bulgaria has best roads in Europe?

It does serbian nigger

youtube.com/watch?v=tdI2RxHccMM

building this would bancrupt your state

Can you show me anything named "Balkan" on that map?

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In the context of comparing wages between countries nominal values are better, they also have there flaws but at least it's a direct comparison and they also tell you a lot about the countries in question besides just how many oranges you can buy for y amount of local currency.

Just like how they wouldn't fall behind Poland and Romania from their standing 10 years ago right?

EU money well spent.

Same thing happens here, especially in smaller towns. People are officially working for minimum wages, but getting double that, so on paper they're poor.

Everyone ITT

You are all inferior!

You, You and You! Especially YOU!

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>In the context of comparing wages between countries nominal values are better
No they're not, unless you have extremely specific reasons why exchange rates are somehow more important to you than the actual purchasing power your wage has. What's the exact advantage of making 500 Euros more if you can overall buy 20% less stuff, for instance?

Poland and Romania are just rising fast

Meaning stagnant countries will fall to the bottom categories.

Some people are just unwilling to accept and deal with it, I saw some Russian declaring that Russia have the same standard of living as France because they buy similar number of burgers in McDonald per capita.

arent you getting jewd off your social security that way?

Because they are retarded subhumans. They aren't even noble Slavs but some Turko-Gypsy-Mongoloid mutts just like Swedes or Germans.

retirement wage is calculated over last 2 years' wage before retirement.

>Fr*nce
Nonwhite and dirty shithole
>R*ssia
The sama as Fr*nce, but with out Eiffel tower

>It's the same for everything you absolute tool, any other new phone, new car, new pc parts, new everything that isn't local, jesus you are retarded and brainwashed.

You don't buy it daily or even monthly you fool.

Based and redpilled

Sweden has one of the most competitive economies in the world you clueless p*le

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here?

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Well it is hard with our salaries, you are fucking pathetic with your coping and trying to spin everything in your favor just because you are not able to accept we are simply much poorer than wester europe

it accounts imported goods too

And what? Only Croatia is quite smart in Balkans and I have doubts about it reading Croatian posts on this site. I'm completely right about my opinion.

You aren't though, if you base average intellect of a country on shitposts off Jow Forums, I wonder who the smart one is then.
You are in no place to be arrogant.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinaric_Alps

Balkan mountain range is hundreds of km's to the east.

Sounds funny coming from a Pole.

Jesus Christ, if we go by the autistic "The Balkan peninsula is where the Balkan mountain is" only Bulgaria and a little part of Serbia would be Balkan.

yes

It's probably like that in his head

>switzerland

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Hahhahaha

>ppp
kys

>900$
>In this shithole
well, to be honest, its actually believable, yes. When one guy has wage of 89010$ and other 99 have 10, average salary will be 900$

They're not. They're comfy and the homeland of Med men. The most masculine men on the planet.

welcome to Eastern Europe (and Kaukaz)

They're kebabs. They don't want to live with their own muslim brothers so they come to the Germanic man in Germany, the Neteherlands, Austria, the UK, Scandinavia. They are such worthless people that they're at par with niggers. I hope we'll kick them out of our countries one day either dead or alive.

>spin everything in your favor just because you are not able to accept we are simply much poorer than wester europe

We are and this map shows it. Again, what's your problem? Price of foreign good is dictated not by the gdp, but by what people are buying it.