Will Japan and Russia ever sign a peace treaty?

Will Japan and Russia ever sign a peace treaty?

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but MUHH kurril irrandu i lost fair and square in a fucking war

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>Will Japan and Russia ever sign a peace treaty?

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>i lost fair and square in a fucking war
not really. Japan and the Soviet union had a non-aggression pact which was still in effect when the Soviets attacked

Maybe "NO"
Japanese prime minister Abe tried to please Russian and Putin.
Economic supports and technologies supports etc.
But it seems to be very difficult to compromise about territiory issue for Russian.
Moreover many Japanese are getting annoy against present Russian attitude, so Abe won't able to support to Russia anymore.

Name 1 reason I should care/read all this bullshit

what's the point of concluding a peace treaty with ruskies when it's practically useless as the history proved anyway?

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If Japan hands over Hokkaido.

non-aggression pacts and peace treaties mean nothing, especially with Russia. Which is the reason why Japan doesn't really want it

>But it seems to be very difficult to compromise about territiory issue for Russian.
From what I've seen, Russians are very butthurt about land. constantly recalling the "good old days" when the Soviet union was a mighty superpower spanning from Germany/Poland to the Pacific. and the "ancestral" claim of the old Tsarist Russian Empire.

but you could concede the land, I mean you have been kicked out of it and its de facto not yours for decades now. and if it will help normalize relations why not? its not like you have a population boom and you must expand your living space.

I find it funny coming from a German, considering the whole Molotov-Ribbentrop non-aggression pact. I'm no history expert but given how historic Hitlers "betrayal" is in the cultural psyche this might be the reason.

You don't need care about this
You'll never change and we found it and we recognized that we'll never friend forever.
That's all.
No problem.

good point. it still meant nothing in the end

oh oh relax take some shower

It's russian land. End of story.

>tf
>tp

It is very essential that trying to recover the lands where were stolen.
because what we leave (forgive, ignore) those lands where enemies stole is same as that we arrow our lands give to enemies.
We should never do such stupid things.

de facto, it is Russian land right now. de jure? depends on what treaty you are looking at.

Kurils was ours from the begining, japtard

Kurils belonged to the Ainus since the beginning
You filthy imperialist animals can both fuck off

Ainu live in Russia right now, cocksucker

>Economic supports and technologies supports etc.
Literally when? Srsly, post some article or some other shit

And my cock lives in your mum's pussy now, russkie subhuman

Russia is way overextended in the East; but, the reverse is true in the West. Japan should trade tacit support for Russian claims up until the Carpathians/Poland in exchange for the Kurils and Karafuto. Russia and Japan should increase ties in general.
iirc Dugin (yes I realize he's not as influential as the Western media makes him out to be) is in favour of an alliance with Japan

I can understand the principle. but I am not saying to give it away for free. I am saying trading it for a peace treaty and whatever else you gain within that treaty. Japan is just as stubborn about land as Russia.

no it wasn't. according to the 1855 treaty the 4 southern islands are Japanese while the rest is Russian. and this was the case until 1945 when the Soviet took over and kept holding on to them. Japan demands these 4 islands, not the entire Kurils, back as part of the peace treaty. Russia refuses.

Most of the Ainu live in Japan.

Interesting, can you show me? Come to here I will beat you up subhuman

>Kurils belonged to the Ainus since the beginning
>You filthy imperialist animals can both fuck off
Russians always were completely ok with Ainus. And we both war with japtards

>no it wasn't. according to the 1855

We were on all the islands before the Japanese

I hope no, fuck those whining bitches

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mofa.go.jp/region/europe/russia/territory/index.html

>On February 7, 1855, Japan and Russia signed the Treaty of Commerce, Navigation and Delimitation, which confirmed the boundary between the islands of Etorofu and Uruppu. The Northern Territories, consisting of four islands of Etorofu, Kunashiri, Shikotan and Habomai, are an inherent part of the territory of Japan, which have never been held by foreign countries. However, the Northern Territories have been under illegal occupation by the Soviet Union, and then Russia, since the Soviet Union occupied them in 1945.
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>The Government of Japan has energetically been continuing negotiations with Russia based on its basic policy of resolving the issue of the attribution of the four Northern Islands and concluding a peace treaty with Russia.

>We were on all the islands before the Japanese
again, not true. Japanese presence predates Russian presence in these 4 islands.

Who cares about those silly Islands?
There are almost no people living there and has no recources

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Holy shit, you retarded subhuman. Russians were first who find these islands with ainu people. Japanese warmongering subhumans are getting die and still btfo by Russia. Suck my dick Jewish shit

Freedom molecule

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Don't try to argue with japs ever. They are braindead and it's okay for them to behead people and cut them alive but then suddenly it is not okay to break war treatments

>I am saying trading it for a peace treaty and whatever else you gain within that treaty.
We don't need Russian supports and friendships
Why do we have to give up our lands instead of such garbage?

Based and red pilled.

Holy fucking based

>and has no recources
actually its one of the richest fishing grounds on the planet, has a very rich aquatic biosphere which is great for research and and its a pretty cool vacation spot.

>Typically Russian scum
Never trust Russian

Japs are scum

>We don't need Russian supports and friendships
well if you say so. I'm no expert but wouldn't a peace treaty and normalization of relationship be helpful for both of you?
>Why do we have to give up our lands instead of such garbage?
you might have a legal claim to it but its not yours in reality. Russia holds those islands in practice. its not your lands and lets face it you're not gonna go to war over them so what is the alternative?

>They are braindead and it's okay for them to behead people and cut them alive
lol
The people who can post such cruelty things are only Russians

We get it, you played CK2.

Japs are disgusting creatures just like Koreans, I have to say that they're the two absolute worst Asian posters with a massive difference in IQ compared to the rest of the Asian flags. I've got them both filtered so I can avoid their shitposting threads, sometimes I forget they even exist.

The choice should be made in international courts alongside the Takeshima/Dokdo issue

I was hoping for a civil conversation but this just degraded into a shitfest.

I just like being a pompous ass.

>its not your lands
Those islands are our territories
That's all
We don't give up our right.
all of your posts are same and what you do is only posting your insistence
Therefore talking with you is really wasting time for me
So I won't reply you anymore

We are already ready for Rosso-Japan war Ⅱ.
So It gets to do after that, and we are gonna beat their asses up again :)

Just shut the fuck up and keep paying us for that we allow you to fish in our waters, Takeshi.

They learned their lesson with Alaska. Russia will never give up Kurils without a fight.

EU should attack from the West, Japan from the East and the USA can over the top. Russia would be fucking crushed.

Try it, I will kill your family and your disgusting country :)

We are waiting

You will be wiped out by our nukes, subhuman

>and keep paying us for that
No, thank you

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Japan will also never give up desu

pretty much this, it's not a treaty that keeps russniggers at bay but lessons.

daily reminder that we've never lost to those russniggers on an h2h.

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And i'm waiting too. For you to piss me off.

Come on, now. My race is surely better than yours.

>Those islands are our territories
those islands are in Russian hands, under Russian control, with Russian citizens. all you have is a legal claim which is disputed. I understand why you consider it yours and I understand why you want them back but I want you to understand the reality. right now its Russian and until this point of contention will be solved with some form of treaty it will remain so. Honestly I think it would be better if Russia gives these lands back but those are just wishes, in the real world people must compromise and I think Japan could compromise on this.

Please dont. it will interfere with my anime and manga. even worse a long war might interfere with your video game industry. the world depends on you for this Japan. being half Russian I dont want to choose between my motherland and my hobbies.

Knowing Russians, they'd go full scorched earth and nuke the planet before allowing defeat. Stubborn people

So you can keep sitting on your ass without peace treaty and islands.
I'm all for it

Lol mother fucker chink

Our sword's will eat your flash little chink kamikaze :) we will behead every single on of you we will rape you and then kill you and cut you to pieces and let your meat eating by us

Subhumans Russia will teach you lesson and you will never do anything again

This
I dont mind getting bombed, as long as I see One Piece finale

Japan helped Russia with advamced traffic light systems to solve the traffic problems, partially took part in the waste management plants and is taking care of your Soviet and Russian garbage atomic submarines engines for FREE in Vladivostok region because they are scared your incompetence will also ppllute their fishing area, they are extremely dangerous and in decay and require proper disassembly and each of them needs its own sarcophagus (although this is also an excuse to collect experience and knowledge in dealing with other radioactive leftovers and also find new ways to talk with Russia) and probably many other collaborations and investments from industry to science, medicine relationship between both should be active too.

for what

Can someone pls nuke russia?

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Yeah, I can agree with you.
Russia now has huge territories, so should be divided into some pieces, because they originally have stole from several countries.
And the occupying countries have to enslave the Russian women.

>advamced traffic light systems to solve the traffic problems
Shit doesn't work
t. experiencing this """"technology"""" for several years yet
I know it's really hard to understand from perspective of a countrylet, but there are not enough nukes in the world to cover up even 25% of our territory

We can attack from west and then share Russian clay from Urals

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"Кyзькинa мaть" is enough to destroy whole American continent :)

Fuck japan fuck china fuck america we are ready

Our sword's will eat all the enemies flash we will trate you all like shit we will drop you all in a big hole put benzin on you and light you all in big fire and burn you down every single one of you !!!

The cute Japanese boys will be raped to death

Sakhalin Islands

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nuke the lunatics who hold massive nuclear arsenal and have a "If I am going down I am taking everyone with me" mindset. yeah, what could go wrong?

>Кyзькинa мaть
Yobnem?

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that's a pretty big talk coming from r*skie

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Obyazatelno.

You will be wiped off from earth subhuman

I don't really care about that. The current relationship isn't so bad. Better to keep the vague and sabtle distance.

>hoping for a civil conversation
>on 4channel
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Mate, you are on Jow Forums, how the hell the discussion here can be civil? It's all shitpostingtown now.

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a man can dream. besides I've had civil conversations before on Jow Forums

I'd imagine only Western Russia is worth anything, otherwise the Russians would have moved east. They're basically begging to become get into the EU, if you look at where all their people are.