Phenibut

I have an extremely high pressure sales job that stresses me the fuck out and causes me to abuse alcohol, benzos, and other drugs. Phenibut is a god send but your tolerance builds so quickly that if you take it more than once or twice per week it basically stops working. How do I get around this? I absolutely crush life while on it and I need this to happen more often. Any pheni experts in here?

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I don't think you can get around it. I took it for like two years, 3 days a week. I dosed like 1.25grams then 1.25grams again a couple hours later and it seemed ideal.

Just keep increasing the dose user. Every time increase it a little more, and a little more, etc.

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Ive got a job interview this week i have to absolutely nail and im debating between either taking adderall or phenibut an hour before.

What is this supposed to do? I've seen it mentioned a few times but never talked about in depth. I bought some and took it a few times but never felt any difference

>Makes music sound even more amazing
>helps you not give a fuck in social situation

Phenibut is no different from alcohol or benzos. Abuse it and you will be in for a world of pain. My advice is to acquire other substances like Racetams, Tianeptine, L-Theanine, and just cycle the Phenibut and Tianeptine for a stronger effect (while avoiding addiction) whereas Racetams and L-Theanine can be used everyday without any negative effects.

take both. pheni makes you calm and verbally fluid but also tired. adderall will keep you alert. its honestly the best combo there is but I would test it out before then to make sure you dont have a weird reaction.

which racetams are best for mood/anxiety? I've tried noopept and one other but didnt really feel much. I take L-theanine every day but I can't tell if it does anything.

it's basically a benzo like xanax or clonopin but it attaches to gaba B instead of gaba A. feels very similar but has a long half life. and its legal to buy over the counter.

baclofen is the same thing but easier to assimilate.

Where can I get this shit? I live in a major city, is it available OTC?

Nevermind, found a place around the corner that sells it. I'm assuming it's dangerous to drink on Phenibut?

When are you faggots going to learn that in the long term addressing work-related stress with drugs, boozing and self destructive behavior only serves to compound your stress further. If you were totally clean, getting good sleep and not destroying your body with shit then your "super high pressure stressful sales job" would be more than manageable.

t. occasionally smoke weed, regret it when my stress and performance at work suffers. bi annual LSD trip to reset. Point is, I'm not speaking from a holier than thou perspective, I've done the same shit and came to the aforementioned realization. Blaming your job for muh stress when you're demolishing your constitution with pharmaceutical crutch on your off hours only fucks you worse. Listen to yourself, you can't even trust your unaltered capability to do a great job interview man. These things are perfectably doable without adderall kratom and phenibut.

Lol weed makes music sound amazing and alcohol makes me not give a fuck. I've never tried any other drugs though, does it make you feel drunk/high? Or are you still in a right state of mind?

If you drink on it you get insanely fucked up, i never black out but when i drank on phen i blacked out and somehow ended up crashing my car.

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Agreed. I don't do LSD, and I only smoke marijuana monthly - I'm extremely strict about it - though I allow myself to drink moderately with friends. Only the truly great can exhibit self-control. The side effects of these drugs are simply not worth it.

"He who cannot obey himself cannot command others."
-Friedrich Nietzsche

noopept is shit. Get Piracetam/Aniracetam or Pramiracetam. For me Pramiracetam had the strongest anti anxiety effect.

True. As a crutch drugs are bad and never work the way people think, they're only cope. But that doesn't mean we can't use drugs recreationally. Being lit is fun, but not the night before work because I realize I stay in a fog for a good 12+ hours after smoking weed

I didn't ask for your life story faggot. I know there are consequences to using drugs but if I can improve my performance by taking something occasionally then I'm going to do it. the point of the thread is how to use it with the least negative effects, not how to be boyscout cuck faggot.

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phenibut is worse than heroin, kek

Right, but the crux of your logic is flawed - if the performance enhancement gives diminishing returns past the first occasion, and that occasion precedes an actual detriment to the performance return to under the baseline, it is a retarded fucking investment. Your net is probably shit too.

If you get nervous for interviews like me then stay the fuck away from any kind of stimulant.

What you need is ketamine. So relaxing and you can't kill yourself. Opioids. Lol. Morons.

ketamine is a meme

Check out lithium oratate, which is a supplement that you can buy on Amazon. I take it when work anxiety gets too high, and after having spent a small fortune on various non-Rx stuff for anxiety, lithium oratate is the best I have found. No real side effects other than apathy if I take it for too long. It starts working 15 minutes after the first dose, too - no waiting weeks for it to start working like many supplements.

ketamine is my favorite thing on earth but thats for having fun on the weekend not for getting a good nights sleep the day before a stressful day at work. also phenibut is not an opiate you brainlet.

Micro-dosing it still has palpable effects long term.

Current stack
>noopept
>alpha-gpc
>idra-21
>prl-8-53
>modafinil (case by case)
>nolvadex
>test-e

Took a while to asses which dosses worked well with others but with the current dose/stack, i feel no come up and the verbal fluency is fluid till late at night

I never said phenibut was an opiate, faggot

I agree to a certain extent, but to be honest don't see the virtue in sobriety. I can understand why using any drug (even coffee for that matter) everyday or every other day might be in some ways self destructive but I see no sin in indulging in phenibut once or twice a month or something else that floats your boat. Key is balance

Not when you have a prescription like me. Haha.

Yeah for the most part but I did fuck up and take too much before giving a presentation and it went badly kek

i got 15g off a DNM, it's a mediocre drug, doesnt cure depression as advertised

who buys 15g of a drug he's never tried before?

You fuck got me to fomo in and buy some.

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cause it's cheaper at larger amounts
it's only 150 bucks anyway and I can sell it at 20 bucks

Then you agree completely with me, the position is not at all in regards to virtue, it is regarding perceived and actual utility for the applications being exemplified in this thread.

so you slave your ass off to make money for mr shekelstein? jesus christ what a moron

Just don't mix that shit with alcohol and it is fine. Also, it takes a long ass time to kick in, so don't take a bunch more if you're not feeling it after an hour.

user where to buy with crypto? what store is that?

liftmode.com you brainlet says so in the pic. Just use the promo code crypto to make it 15% cheaper.

Oh I forgot you and everyone else share the same genetics. Use your brain and learn about science. Jesus Christ.

if sobriety makes you write like I am thinking I need to up my dose jesus christ what a faggot

can i get this on bodybuilding dot com?

Remember that when you take phenibut, the large dose is because most of it is destroyed by your digestive tract on the way down. There is also f-phenibut which is far stronger than phenibut and better absorbed. Phenibut tends to be inconsistent and disappointing for a lot of people. It's also horrible for your stomach so don't parachute it. Do not fuck with gaba more than a couple days at a time 2 weeks max.

>buy high sell low
so is it not worth buying?

making this seem like a hardcore drug when apparently it's legal

It's a Soviet designer drug which mimics the neurotransmitter GABA, but can cross the blood-brain barrier. It was designed for cosmonauts to calm their nerves before spaceflight without intoxication. It is basically like the confidence-boosting part of getting drunk without many of the negatives.

I like phenylpiracetam personally.

Just keep increasing it until you die or lose your job because of your drug addiction. Good luck, user!

aniracetam gets my vote

not everything legal is harmless, not everything illegal is harmful

At my most heavy usage I was doing about 2 grams two or three times a week. I don't typically do things in moderation so if you're doing more than that you're past functioning user and into needing professional addiction help

You can buy a kilo of phenibut and have it delivered to your front door for only a couple hundred bucks dude. It's not hard to fuel an addiction.
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It's like if you were in between drunk and high but with none of the negatives like being uncoordinated or half retarded. Makes me feel serine and take enjoyment out of the most mundane tasks.

that shit is so fucking addictive I can't trust myself to order it

I blow through 100g in like 2 weeks and it gives me the nods worse than fucking heroin

if you take too much you will fall asleep/stop breathing depending on how much

>muh deration
peak cope from people who bought into the jewish lie. There is no such thing as "moderate" drug abuse. Might as well say you only drive drunk in moderation, or only rape in moderation.

I've seen long lasting positive effects from taking drugs. With specific regard to phenibut, it literally cured my autism. Before I was incredibly angst, anxious, and nervous in social situations. Phenibut let me have tonnes of conversations with people without constantly observing and judging myself. I'm definitely not the same off it as I am on it, which isn't very often, but I've kept a lot of the gains from it. People will just talk to me now and I'll talk to them, look them in the eye, have a laugh, not bring up my turboautist hobbies that I know they won't get, and generally have a smile as my resting face.

You have to take it on an empty stomach too

The free amino is better than the HCL fyi

I concur with this. A long term benefit of Phenibut is taking all of the social behaviors you’ve learned on Phenibut and applying it to sobriety.

Overall, even though I’ve abused it in the past and had some (manageable) withdrawals, it’s provided a net positive benefit for me in my life and would recommend in to anyone looking to improve in social situations.

liftmode makes good shit

>it literally cured my autism.
congrats on this, seriously

I wonder if microdosing daily would be more effective long term than one big dose every week or two.

I know you're memeing but God damn does it feel good to be normal

it wouldn't have any noticeable pharmacological effect and would increase tolerance