>what if i told you people take fatwas based on ahadith only with a grain of salt?
I would tell you that you know less about your religion than I thought and maybe we should just end this discussion here, besides most fatwas are backed by both Ahadith and quran verses, fatwas with strictly only Ahadith are pretty rare
>how is saying the quran is clear as day circular reasoning?
no what you said falls under pic related
Be Muslim man at Uni
Liam Williams
Ian Long
Based please join our r/indianexmuslim sub Reddit we have two pakis from Lahore posting there
Dominic Adams
>fatwa stuff
fatwas aren't gospel. you know that, they can contradict each other, a fatwa is a scholar's opinion. it's not binding upon a muslim.
>reasoning stuff
i didn't say what your pic said
The quran says god exists, he made the universe, he expands the universe he made life there will be an afterlive, everyone will die etc..
I DIDN'T say god exists because the quran says so, please please please show me where i said that
Matthew Wood
I'm pretty sure he's larping. He spelled kashmir like the the type of wool, he says his relatives are in pakistan but the lockdown's in indian kashmir and he says indopak 2 as if there's only been one indopak war before.
Leo Garcia
There’s been an indo pak war before though when the pakis genocided bongolis
Parker Rogers
what's your point?
Christian Nelson
>fatwas aren't gospel. you know that, they can contradict each other, a fatwa is a scholar's opinion. it's not binding upon a muslim.
this entire thing right here reeks of talking out of your ass, I have studied enough books to not even give this thing you call an argument a reply
>I DIDN'T say god exists because...
no but you did, earlier to some one else, your argument also starts with the premise that God exists and this is objective fact so therefore blah blah blah, it is just a bad argument that leads to circular reasoning.
Wyatt Fisher
Doesn't it have like hundreds of differences AND recent corrections lmao
The perfectly preserved-argument is probably the dumbest since it's not only untrue, it's also something early muslims didn't believe in.
Easton Anderson
>this entire thing right here reeks of talking out of your ass, I have studied enough books to not even give this thing you call an argument a reply
there are fatwas that say to only attend one khutbah a day, and others that say i should attend multiple if there are multiple. I cannot possibly follow both. Tell me how do I follow both?
>no but you did, earlier to some one else
no i didn't. Show me.
>your argument also starts with the premise that God exists and this is objective fact so therefore blah blah blah
no? I just talked about intelligent design of the universe from a secular point of view. you're putting words in my mouth because you can't prove your point about circular reasoning.
Caleb Wilson
yes which is why I mentioned the Sanaa manuscript and the fairly recent standardized version of the quran which was composed in Cairo I believe 1914/1916 I could be wrong, I have not argued against a muslim in a while so my dates might be off.