Let's be real here. Everyone who wants America to go down is implicitly wanting China to take the lead...

it really isn't, and you can't give a single example.

But they already threaten and intimidate their own neighbors who all hate them for it.

They don't have the capacity for overt intervention. They have to get what they want by suckering dictators into debt traps.

Are you telling me if they had the wealth and military capability of the USA, they wouldn't do what the US does or worse? Because I do not and never will believe you.

>and you can't give a single example
China messing up around ASEAN and other countries around her

SE Asia will probably disagree with your retarded statement. Plus they have annexed a bunch of land since WW2.

? china has the same territory as they did in the 13th century.

>? china has the same territory as they did in the 13th century.
Are you even trying???

like what?

its actually smaller since they let mongolia go and havent tried to take the russian manchuria back

idiota

China is not as good a country as Westerners think. This is shit country aiming to expand their territory with military power.

Germany today is even smaller then the HRE, so that means they were never agressors

What a weak response. You told me that China annexed land after the war but it actually didn't.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territorial_changes_of_the_People's_Republic_of_China

USA is equally bad, but China triggers mutts by existing, so I support China
Not hegemony though, hegemony of any cunt will be disastrous

Fuck chink subhumans

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tibetian kings always recognized the government of china as theirs, anything else is revisionism.

Accept your destiny and take the mantle of Steppe Chad and conquer Eurasia

>Mostly just domestic changes from warlords/civil war
>Russia seceding some islands that it wrongfully stole
>China defending it's territory against Indian aggressors
wow, it's fucking nothing

Taiwan isnt yours, Hongkong isnt yours, Xinjang isnt yours, because they genetically arent massive headed Han, simple as.

>Everyone who wants America to go down is implicitly wanting China to take the lead.
Stupid false choice argument. There is no candidate to take over as the world's hyperpower, no country in the world possesses the capabilities military, economic, and political that the US has had since the late 80s. China can only go as far as becoming a superpower, and we're still a decade or more away from that. Can't wait for a multipolar world order where mutts won't be able to force their liberal interventionism cancer on everyone

You should know more about what China is doing. They take the freedom of Chinese citizens in every way. It is better to be isolated if japan supports China.

The People's Republic of China will propel humanity into prosperity against the reactionaries of the West. China has forever been the forefront of humanity, and it will soon regain its rightful place. Those who oppose the People's Republic of China are dooming themselves.
The Imperialists of Japan will face the People's Republic's wrath.
The Separatists of Taiwan will soon be reunited with the People's Republic.
The Reactionaries of Tibet will be crushed by the weight of the Party.
The South China Sea shall remain part of China.
The Agents of the West in Hong Kong will be crushed for their treason.
And the American Imperialist Dogs will soon be destroyed from within.
Praise be to the People's Republic and the Communist Party!
Long Live the People's Republic of China!

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>You HAVE to be supporting china if you don't like the US

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>Taiwan
>Hong Kong
>not Han
Xinjiang will be soon enough, 45% and rising

You're acting like we're forcing anyone. From where i stand, it seems more like you and Europeans trying to force it on us.

oh no, Chinese propaganda is very creepy

t. lives in a country completely dependent on the US

>you HAVE to like x if you happen to be a colony!

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Then leave, no one is forcing you rats to stay

I don't know. I think they're kinda cool.

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I'm Overseas Chinese and I can't wait for China to revitalize the slumbering Chinese civilization all across Asia. Southeast Asian Chinese already dominate the economic sectors of their various countries. Australia and New Zealand will eventually be bought out and become de facto Chinese territory when we send the whites back to dog Europe and buy out their property. We already own Asia. We will once again reign supreme as the world's longest and purest empire.

Koreabros and Japanbros will be treated as honorary Chinese.

PRAISE BE TO CHINESE CIVILISATION. 中國萬歲萬歲萬萬歲!!

well i mean your country is retarded and couldn't even deliver your people the water bottles we shipped.

like or not you're completely dependent on another country because you can't function without someone else footing the bill

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>Then LEAVE! No one forced you to stay except for the indoctrination that we implanted on the population for 50 years and the FBI intervention on tracking and assaulting independence supporters to intimidate the population

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Based colonizer

Based and Tengripilled, you have my blessing to loot the river valleys of the Han

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>Claims we have indoctrinated them to want to be part of the USA
>Refuses to become a state because they'll lose the gibs
>Refuses to leave, one of their demands to leave is more gibs
Literally niggers the country.

Hong kong is shouthern chinese, Taiwan is austronesian-han

What about Viets?

Yeah, we totally forced you to fund color revolutions and named the Washington Consensus after a bunch of think tanks in Ottawa and Brussels.

A couple 'rocks' as the UN calls is nothing like:
Annexing the entire nation leading to the deaths of a million in the process
Messing with elections for the decades to come after independence
Saddling billions upon billions debt through corrupt contracts with US companies and then blocking any attempts to delegitimize said debts

>You guys are just niggers!!

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Leave then. What is it with your people and constant excuses for everything? You have had access to a first world economy for over a century and still have failed in being a functioning anything.
Have anyone else in your position and they would be first world.

you're worse than niggers even haiti knew better than to leave the water bottles on the tarmac for months

Obviously it is. You canucks just want to be hip and modern and seek to out shine the USA in disastrous policies. You voted for your leaders, so it's your fault

Vietnam has always been in denial about its status as a rightful Chinese territory. It will be integrated into the People's Republic of China and any idea of a "Vietnam" nation will be crushed

I only want China to win because I hate democracy.

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commie lovers want more pollution,more dictators, no respect for intellectual property,less freedom and more censorship in the world.

They don't because they can't, due to not having true power projection capabilities. You are absurdly naive if you think they'll stick to their current practices once the current hegemon is gone.

>The Chinese Railways Remolding East Africa

>China’s most significant railway projects in East Africa are the diesel-powered Mombasa-Nairobi Standard Gauge Railway built in Kenya, and the Addis Ababa-Djibouti Railway, which is the first electrified railway of its kind in Africa. Both railway projects, costing $3.4 billion for Ethiopia and $3.2 billion for Kenya, are standard gauge railway projects paid for by Chinese loans. The two-year-old light-rail system in Addis Ababa, the Ethiopian capital, was financed by China as well to the tune of $475 million.

>The two projects have been mired in controversy over their costs. In August 2018, Kenyan authorities arrested two top officials for suspected corruption over the new $3 billion Mombasa-Nairobi railway. Last week, according to a VOA report, the Kenyan government faced a major backlash after the details of its contract with China Exim Bank was released. There are fears that Kenya could potentially lose the Port of Mombasa to the Chinese government if the government-owned Kenya Railways Corporation (KRC) defaults on a substantial payment owed to Exim Bank.

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>B-but the water bottles
A problem caused by the govenor having insisted to not hand them out so he could do it later with his wife and pack himself in the back. We already were talking about his ineffiency before Americans knew about it.

The current territorial status mostly benefit american businesses than local ones and has our economical relationship mostly relying on you guys while other countries have to receive green light from you so we can engage with them, don't come with that bullshit that you guys gave us everything without having received benefits from it, you aren't that charitable.

Chinese are building railways. How horrible.

>The People's Republic of China is helping the World
How Horrible. It's Almost Like the United States has a vested interest in seeing the People's Republic Fail.

And which businesses are those? We have statutes in place to protect your weak economy from being absorbed by someone else. If you don't like it, leave.
Atleast try coming with something substantial instead of the usualy Hispanic ramble of, "Noo Senior, es da gringos fault" lol

China has
>not started a dozen wars in less than twenty years
>not flooded my country with aids infested degeneracy, blacked, abortion, radical feminism, trap porn, race mixing propaganda
>not occupied my country
>not ethnically cleansed my people and murdered them in the millions
>not installed puppets and flooded my country with """"refugees"""
>is not ruled by a hostile elite which produces torture porn of killing Germans to fap to
>has not conceived the Hooton, Morgenthau or Kaufman plans

And anything the Chinks do in spying, pattent theft and industrial espionage the burgers did or do tenfold. Yeah, communism sucks and the Chinks are cold, efficient and not to be trusted. But the (((USA))) is a hellish nightmare of apocalyptic proportions. A chimp or a banan sandwich would be a better alternative.

I also hope they solve the Canadian question once and for all.

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Based. The USA is a straight up dystopia that belongs in the trash heap of history.

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based borat

based

If China were in our spot during WWII, they would make sure you were wiped for what you did. A mistake on our "MuH HERitAge" fags in charge.

Tibet?

>how horrible
>how horrible
Are they feeding you guys a script?

Foreign investment on the scale of billions is always worthy of scrutiny, whatever nation provides it. I doubt you would say that "Britain was just helping the world" when it invested a billion dollars into Iraqi oil production in the early 1900s, because what ensued was subsequent British control over the territory for the next hundred. I doubt you would say "America was just helping the world" when its investment helped build the Panama Canal, for the very same reason. There are few conditions where heavy investment doesn't lead to heavy control.

>how little regard the CPC has for anyone except themselves

The ruling class of white devils don’t care of others even in the slightest.

The People's Republic does not use Imperialism and Seize the Territory. It instead leaves the territory in the hands of the Africans. Imperialists would take the land and only develop what benefits them.

>proving my point
American intelligence

You also DID enable and facilitate the greatest ethnic cleansing in human history, 16 million, which directly killed millions. And the only reason why the other policies were not enacted upon, was, because you needed the buffer state against the Soviet Union. Which you had built up before yourself through lend lease.

So fuck off, burger. The hypocritical "morality" you bost yourself as you butcher and rape is what made you so cancerous compared to the Russians already.

What the fuck are you on about? lol

oh boy, you did it now.

another episode of

>please sirs don't support my rival, my shit definitely tastes better than theirs will ever taste.

based macanese

Nah, you can support China if you want. Most of my fellow Mutts are isolationist now.

>and which businesses are those?
Any of the already present ones already overshadowing most of the local businesses here, the tax benefit rich americans receive in Puerto Ricon (which, was later erroneously interpreted as *us* not having to pay taxes when in reality we do pay more than the average American in the US), and the fact that this island is a mainly consumerist economy so the US actually ends up earning a fuck ton out from us.

>We have statutes in place to protect your weak economy from being absorbed by someone else.
Well, how thankful I am from the "protection" that in reality is mostly just benefitial for the rich american businessesmen and their absorption of our economy.

I don't want to sound like a crybaby, but I'm just blandly stating why I don't like our relationship and wish we had more power regarding our sovereignty than what we currently have, not because I want some half-assed apology from americans.

>Most of my fellow Mutts are isolationist now.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAhahAhAhAhahAhAhAhAhAhAhAhAhAhA *wheeze* BWAAHAHAHAHAhAhAhAhAHAHAhahAhA

>given how little regard the CPC has for anyone except themselves, and the Orwellian measures they're willing to go to to maintain and extend their own power.
They've pulled over a billion people out of poverty, the single greatest humanitarian achievement in all of human history. Now compare this to the USA, which has food stamps/modern bread lines and their economy crashing every handful of years, where millions of ordinary people have their lives ruined and the rich become richer in the process.
China has universal healthcare, universal education, job training programs and basic housing for the poor. They care more about supporting the welfare of the people more than any other major country on the planet at the moment. Things may change in future but there is no reason to believe otherwise aside from racist delusions by people who are arsehurt at a non-European/"non-white" superpower.
As for Orwellian: do a Google search for "Five Eyes spying". Learn about the imperialist war machine you are defending.

We are, why do you think Trump won?

>pays more taxes as a percentage
>But receives 20 times the national average in aid
And proof on the American rich taking advantage of you, do you know how bad of PR that would be?
Please become a state if you want more power, if not. Then leave already

Read a history book, Zhang. Neither of those investments were originally sold as "imperialism". They were framed exactly as China's investment in Africa is – as a means of improving an impoverished country. But the problem with national improvement through international investment is that it's rare for an investment of that size to pay off in the amount of time allotted for the loan. So the "loaning" country has to keep staying involved to keep siphoning profits from the loanee. And "staying involved" costs a lot of money, so the "loanee" now has another sunk cost to recoup. Do you see the pattern?

It's not easy enough to say "China has good intentions". Most imperialist countries did have good intentions. And almost every country was failed by those intentions.

>why do you think Trump won?
because you got conned. and it was mostly about jerbs. had very little to do with foreign policy.

>insisted to not hand them out so he could do it later with his wife and pack himself in the back
Literally nigger tier behavior. The only other nation that embarrassing is Ireland for nearly being wiped out from a mold spore

The fact that a century ago your continent was the most powerful on the planet and now you make posts like this to decide which dick you want to suck more is just depressing

China doesn't have universal healthcare. No developed country does. It's a pipe dream.

Your economy isn't isolationist, senpai. It need both massive global trade and global conflict. Neoliberal market leaders and the militaries which prop them up have spent the last few generations destroying local markets. We are all stuck in this globally facing economy whether we want to be or not.

>China doesn't have universal healthcare
Yes it does.
>No developed country does
No, most developed countries do.
>It's a pipe dream
Your strawman is a pipe dream however your strawman isn't real.

Do you know what Isolationist even means? lmao

Yes, thank you for destroying it to build your ZOG-Empire, so we could all enjoy white genocide and total civilizational decay. And I am sucking nobodies dick. I want the EU to become a European Empire and independent. It's just a matter of fact, your are still an occupational power and my country is still in total vassal state status ruled by traitorous elites. While China became our most important trading partner outside the EU.

Do you? Do you know what your military does? Do you know what your industry is geared for? Do you know where most of your industry from a few decades ago is, now?
lmao, indeed.

Europeans don't get to cry about genocide. After WWII, your entire region should have been turned to glass for your crimes against humanity.

You have no idea how much private racism there is in NZ towards Asians. Far more than even Australia. The second Asians try and take over NZ, they would be massacred en-masse.

You already have a EU empire and you've done nothing but bend over backwards to refugees and give shithole nations like Greece money

Most Americans support a complete abandonment of our current alliances, this is an undeniable fact. Once the boomers die, we're out.

Atleast we agree on this. Though we are incredibly bad aswell.

This is why Europeans who ally with insects to get at Americans are complete retards. Once America is gone, the bugs will enact revenge for muh century of humiliation.

(((())))

Except it's not an Empire at all

Lam Wing Kee (林榮基) was the owner of Causeway Books, a bookshop in Hong Kong that sold materials critical of the CCP. In October 2015 he disappeared while crossing at Luoho Port into Shenzhen. At the exact same time, four other employees of the bookstore disappeared within Hong Kong. China broke Hong Kong's sovereignty to remove the other four. He was held in detention until June 2016, and he was only returned to Hong Kong because the CCP was able to get information about the patrons of his bookshop. He was fully within his rights to sell materials critical of China within Hong Kong, but he was arrested anyway.

zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/銅鑼灣書店股東及員工失蹤事件
zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/林榮基
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lam_Wing-kee