Do ameircans really like this movie? fuckin kek

i like it too
why
he reminded me of that movie where nazis and americans make a deal to rob a bank, the scene
youtube.com/watch?v=Csv1wXOr5tY

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if you're interested in realistic depictions of WW2 aircraft i have some recommendations
>Tora Tora Tora (about Pearl Harbor)
>Battle of Britain (self-explanatory)
>Grave of the Fireflies (tragedy of civilians during Japan bombings) anime
>The Wind Rises (life of the engineer behind the japanse fighter aircraft "Zero") anime
there was some more but i cant remember them
youtube.com/watch?v=WS_da33g5ac

Letters from Iwo Jima was pretty good too
Savinng Private Ryan too, but i watched that so many times, i dont want to watch it anymore

For me it was Band of Brothers. Do non-Americans know of it?

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>they also add "good" Wehrmacht or even SS soldiers who "just followed orders" but actually never hated russians or considered them subhuman.
They were probably the majority. Most soldiers were certainly not very wise men and propaganda was ubiquituous, but life at the front lines was different.

did u watched trotsky?

i like it. i know its not historicly correct in any way, simple things like the crew answering the tank commander in a rude way was unheard of then. but it just got something i enjoy.

>For me it was Band of Brothers. Do non-Americans know of it?
yes

Can't beat Unsere Mütter, unsere Väter

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>brad pitt killin' natzees
It's fucking good shit my man

I really like more The Pacific that Band of Brothers

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I like that movie, too. The grotesque nazi villains were a thing in it, though. But still best till this day.

>Make you wonder how they even conquered basically whole Europe
Well they got lucky with France then proceeded to use their giant army to easily whack every other Euro country out of the way until the Soviets defeated them with their even bigger and more industrialized army? It wasn't like Germany had a particularly amazing military at the time

For me, it's Inglorious Bastards.

*than

I've seen tora, tora, tora, (in fact I own a copy on VHS) I always loved that film. I've seen the wind rises, an odd film for myazaki

>Well they got lucky with France then proceeded to use their giant army to easily whack every other Euro country out of the way until the Soviets defeated them with their even bigger and more industrialized army? It wasn't like Germany had a particularly amazing military at the time
t. brainlet

when you see the marines watch their support fleet lit up by japanese suprise attack at night somewhere off in that mess is my great uncle's ship caught amidships by japanese shells

pretty good movie. i really liked it as well. really nice character arcs in general.

what about this one?
youtube.com/watch?v=aOqcM0dN9zQ

well, wouldn't you know it, those people existed sadly, that's the whole reason Germany was in a suicidal war after all

just found finished it yesterday. very good show and I'm happy that I finally got to see the war through the German perspective.

i cant think more realistic ww2 movie than das boot

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Excuse you, a German saved the last man from Fury, proving that Germans at that time did what they did due to the political power dictating so.

>beat france because their government was retarded and outmanoeuvre their military
>easily defeat and occupy netherlands, denmark, norway, balkan countries with 20 good men
>stalemate against britain because of the channel
>go all-out against USSR, except they have a bigger military that is at least as well-equipped as germany's plus a ridiculously higher rate of production, lose momentum, and then literally run out of men and supplies
Hans pls

>those people existed sadly
Your army had its fair share of them, too. You never see them in movies, though ;)

Damn that's true kino, especially when he eats the orange

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the soviet union's production and equipment was heavily supplemented by the united states, the highest production capacity state on the planet in the 1940s, incidentally just one more state hitler declared war on in that same year

>beat france because their government was retarded and outmanoeuvre their military
this contradicts your first statement

what does that mean? we had our fair share of SS? of nationalist totalitarian psychos with a bent for cruelty and inhumanity? no, I'm afraid of those we had none

For me it's Thin Red Line

>Dindunuffin we Germans are good people we love Jews

please post examples of allied military units that compare to einsatzgruppen in the slightest

First 2/3 are great. Last 1/3 is fucking ridiculious

come and see

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SS should have rekt the mutts

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>heavily supplemented
It did help, but even without lend-lease Soviet production levels were still higher
Not really, the entire lead up to the war depended on whether France's strategy of static warfare or Germany's same old strategy of manoeuvre warfare that they had been practicing for decades would work, the got "lucky" in the sense that the French government was stuck in the past, splintered, didn't invest enough in the military, and wasn't prepared for mechanized German forces to cross the Ardennes. If France had been prepared then the War would have ended in 1940.

it was boring but ending was great

that scene is pretty farfetched, yes

It's set a month before the War ended, most SS units were ded and those that were left consisted of raw recruits

>didn't invest enough in the military
this isn’t true
Germany won on a tactical level, not a strategic one. Their victory in the fall of France was an accumulation of bad allied decisions and luck during the first 2 weeks of the campaign. Had a dynamic, competent general such as liddlehart been in command of the overall allied army the Germans could have easily lost and a stallmate along the Siegfried-maginot developed

you are funny.
Iwan, please.

they had invested heavily in their defense, the problem was french philosophy that precluded them from employing their superior tanks in a way that allowed them to maximize their strength, the french tanks were better, but at every turn they were spread out thin, outnumbered, and unable to communicate as the german crews were

totally backwards doctrine is what sank france

A series of left-wing fractured interwar governments who weren't friendly with the military didn't help at the very least

>None posted this piece of art

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this, the allies maintained strategic superiority throughout nearly the entire war, from manpower and materiel to economic output. it was the axis initial overwhelming tactical superiority that allowed to achieve such stunning military victories in the first half and drag the war on until ‘45
the military had more than enough to defeat the germans or at least force them into stalemate, especially with the BEF backing them up. it was poor tactical decisions made in prior to and during the actual german campaign that led to their downfall. they walked right into germany’s trap, not even taking the reports of tanks streaming through the ardennes seriously until it was too late. the allies expected a war with Germany since the mid 1930s and were ready for it but when it started they took misstep after misstep and got BTFO initially

To be fair prior to Fall Gelb every country in the world including Germany itself had a backwards doctrine.
America didn't even consider tanks as a legitimate innovation and just a waste of money prior to France's surrender. Most of Germany's generals were convinced tanks only had a supporting role on the battlefield, for the infantry. If Guderian (main pioneer for armoured warfare in Germany and arguably one of Germany's most successful generals if not the most successful) failed to convince Erich von Mannstein Germany would've continued to use the same backwards doctrine as the rest of the world.
It was only after the obliteration of France the world started to see tanks as the next evolution of warfare and the USA did a 180 on their military doctrines.

In a way, France was a sacrifice so that the world could truly witness the new form of warfare.

Not really. Its "Boomer tropes and WW2 hearsay" the movie. Real Panthers though so that's cool.

De Gaulle and liddlehart had already developed their own doctrines on maneuver tank warfare. Guderian took notes from them. And the sacrifice was Poland, really. France didn’t suffer nearly as hard

Sure but neither of them could convince the majority of their respective country's militaries nor did the rest of the world consider it a serious option.
And I'd argue the defeat of France was much more influential in opening the eyes of the rest of the world. Poland could be simply dismissed as an outdated or poorly equipped military being steamrolled by two much larger and more advanced militaries.
France on the other hand was supposed to have a stronger army than Germany on top of having large scale English support yet both armies fell with the same ease as Poland's, which undeniably proved to the rest of the world that mobile armoured divisions were the way to go.

Good posts

On top of that, IIRC the USA only instated the military reforms after France surrendered rather than after Poland's defeat.

Overall it was a good movie
the only shitty parts were the ending and how the girl fell in love with a soldier after getting raped

>raped
I don't think that was rape. They both liked each other.

among the worst war movies

Band of brothers and saving private ryan are good movies

Haven't seen the pacific yet

Yeah exactly, this is how the movie showed it when it was basically a rape.

Had anyone seen 1944?
youtu.be/1HrNaacspsY

NKVD

It amazes me how many cretins there are in film industry who doesn't understand that making germans bad soldiers makes everything else even worse. It's an absolute travesty when you watch a movie and germans look like zombie with rifles

Is this the film where an M4 Sherman battles off a horde of Tiger tanks?

>For me it was Band of Brothers. Do non-Americans know of it?

Yes, that's the good shit. But Fury was terrible.

Stalingrad (1993) anyone.
White Tiger was really odd movie, very philosophical, mysticism, paranormal mix from what I remember.
T-34 (movie) is superior tank flick than Fury.

They had good and experienced commanders

yes

i saw white tiger, it was weird, kind of like inception, there is a big chronology gap

That tiger scene is so retarded

It's pretty good on its first watch, but it's not worth watching more than once

I just watched Mulholland Drive

So now you people like germans?