Jobs require social skills

That's not boomer that's solid advice man and we need to keep hearing it until we do it.

Do you mean assertive leader types?

>If you sperg too much and are so fucking smart go be a doctor where it doesn't matter.
>>need to pass interviews to be accepted into med school

w-what if i have autism
>can't maintain eye contact, default is to look down
>say "umm" and pause a lot in conversations
>never know what to say tbqh

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They're at the top so they can afford to be an asshole. If you think being an asshole is going to be helpful, then go for it.

Oops, meant to quote

Autism is a long-running l33t meme for the most part, lotta guys fall for the kike trap and self-diagnose like I did. There are well-trained, and poorly/untrained people.

uncensoredmath.com

If you really give a fuck about improving your social life you'll visit that site and read up, check forum and join discord chat. Social training for dummies. Enjoy. Don't bug me about little details like other anons I shill this to, just fucking read it and use your brain. Nothing in life has helped me as much as this site (used to be "manhoodacademy").

They're at the top because they're an asshole. The most personable people I've ever met are assholes. I've seen people on the bottom that are the perfect asshole rise to the top really fucking fast. If you're just a miserable cunt, not to be confused with Chad asshole, then you are doomed.

don't read trashy self-help books and social skills guides written by autismo "puas" larping as don juan, they'll only make you more of a freak. just talk to people

"Just be an asshole and treat women badly" type of mentality at face value is only going to make these dudes lives worse. Might as well tell them to shoot for the stars while you're at it. All this advice does is create weird NPC-esque dudes playing hard tuff boy. Speaking from experience. You don't just DO these things. Fake it till you make it is the worst advice ever btw, it's why NPC is even a fucking meme to begin with. Fake, dumb fucks.

Get a job in a restaurant. I worked at a chinese and Italian restaurant while I was in school. I learned how to make eye contact with people and I how to make small talk with them. I'm still kinda aspie, but I've gotten better with my social skills.

I am autismal and I have no problem socializing or at least appearing social.

I'm not a top level boss but I'm basically a right hand man kind of deal and most people like me, I still take it too far and or awkward sometimes but generally I am far more successful in my company now than I was before when I was a total sperg.
Living proof nigger

yeah, which is why you faggots should join uncensoredmath discord group, talk to dudes who been there done that and can actually fucking HELP you

but no, I'll see this thread 5 times a week for the rest of my life. most of yalls advice is absolutely fucking awful.

>just talk to people

it's

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>"I-I-I can't do it, I'm scared!"
cry more bitch boy.

you don't seem to have a problem voicing your "opinions" on Jow Forums. just act like you do on Jow Forums and you'll make it. obviously don't regurgitate shitty memes, just the being an asshole part of you that comes out while on here

you didn't fake it till you made it, you spoke your fucking mind which brings relief. maybe you weren't a total sperg to begin with! you're lying to me if you tell me you're living proof by "faking it". If you do "fake it" then you're just a phony, fuck your supposed "social skills"

LOL U MAD BITCH? XDXDXD COME AT ME BRUH

>>>>activatebitchasssarcasticgreentext

>try to talk to people
>they dont want to talk
>they leave
Real easy

definitely fucks black guys

social skills are the blue pill. the red pill is autistically honing a skill for 5 FUCKING YEARS IN EVERY SPARE MOMENT OF YOUR FREE TIME. this opens up the doors that smart anons wish to go through. socializing can be for the npc's while you go through the fucking door to adventure. but first, hone a skill for 5 years with every moment you can spare. and don't take a damn day off.

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What kind of autistic skills are you talking about?

like anything that matters, you need to practice in order to get good at it. you can continue being a sad sack of shit, or you can stop being an autistic cuck--maybe then you won't actually become a wizard or be accepted to Hogwarts on your 30th birthday

in all seriousness I want to help you guys, but I tend to get really fucking asstwisted over this subject because I wasted over 20 years of my life being a self-diagnosing, lost, neurotic dipshit. I'll literally be here for hours if I keep replying because I genuinely fucking care about the suffering of men and want you all to know what mental freedom feels like by simply being comfortable in your own skin. take my advice, check out (all free, no crypto, no shill, no weird shit) the site I posted previously.

take care, niggers

*BBC fucks asain men

Ftfy

not autistic skills, singlemindedly and autistically improving upon a skill you have/want to have. it doesn't matter what the skill even is as long as it's something you want to do. just don't give up once you set it upon yourself improve this skill for 5 years in every waking moment of your time.

You practice social skills as a kid when youre always around people
If it didnt work then its not gonna work when youre 24

So figure out why they leave and try again. If you want to give up at the ripe old age of 24 go ahead but you’re going to have a pretty miserable life. Fucking homo.

>tfw I will never get a job because I'm too honest and direct on interviews
When will people start hiring by actual skills rather than some fake background history?

>can't communicate with other human beings
>call other people dumb and look down on them

Kill yourself you autistic loser. You are not smart.

my gmat score says otherwise

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>Anonymous (ID: uri0XDyM) 10/27/18(Sat)18:17:55 No.11550529▶

Had this. Wasted thousands of dollars on "social anxiety" therapy. Total waste and didn't work.

Someone gave me one piece of advice:
LOVE YOURSELF

Find a way to love yourself. All your problems stem from the fact that you hate yourself. Accept you as you are, and love yourself. No one will do it but you.

The shyness, the awkwardness will go away in under a year.

Trust me user, I've been you.

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>mommy look I did a test it says I'm smart!!

Pathetic crutch. You cannot manipulate people, you are not smart. What are you going to talk about next, your IQ? You're a robot at most. A smart NPC perhaps.

take it easy user, OP didn't really mean anything bad. He just used that common expression when someone is frustrated "what's he got that i don't got?"

Pretend to be social. Make a character that is outgoing. LARP as regular person. Put on the cape friend

Sorry this user is right, you are the definition of the Holden caufield NPC. Stop seeing yourself as better than others or else you will just live a miserable life. Commit to and serve others and you will find strength in yourself again.

Okay, you want some practical advice? Start talking on the phone more. No, really. Ordering food? Call it in. Getting a taxi? Call for one. Want to talk to a friend? Call them. At work and the phone rings? Answer it.

If this sounds retarded to you, then all I can say is you're probably already pretty comfortable with this basic level of socialization. But for many people, evben this is tough. This is the baby step you are asking for. Start using the phone. After about a year of heavy use, you'll be comfortable with it. This will in turn make you more comfortable talking to people face to face. Text less. Face to face more.Even with your friends and such. Eschew the attraction of the written word for communication.

>Start talking on the phone more. No, really. Ordering food? Call it in. Getting a taxi? Call for one. Want to talk to a friend? Call them. At work and the phone rings? Answer it.

OOO I love this advice. Thank you user. I did something I feel terrible about to a door to door "salesperson" I had a near aspie-tier freak out trying to get rid of them. They were granted very pushy but I realize I have a lot to work on socially. I'm gonna do this advice man.

I am in sales. I have made $200k ytd and.my pipeline is loaded for December.

I hate people. I am not social. I am straight up /pol.

In my experience, slick talkers and Chad's can sell something they have no clue about, but an autistic spazlord that can lay out a well designed product in a technical AND sales forward way can make the most money.

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>Get a retail cuck job in sales and learn some social skills

It wont help, you'll just become the weird guy

This. Social intelligence is extremely important.

>you're not better than NPCs

Sounds like something an NPC would say.

Every interaction I have with them underscores the fact that I am better than them. I don't want to think like them, I don't want to have their interests, and I sure as fuck don't want to be them.

Talk to who exactly?

Don't have friends and coworkers already know I'm socially retarded

its not about being social. your co-workers dont give a shit.
its all about kissing your bosses ass.

>go be a doctor where it doesn't matter

I've never seen a spergy doctor before. It certainly does matter because a doctor would be dealing with patients and other staff.

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I used to be socially retarded, had some social anxiety and really low confidence. I forced myself into awkward social situations. I would do things like force myself to go to bars alone and chat/party with complete strangers. Words can’t describe how painful it was at first, but I improved my social skills A LOT, got a lot more confident in myself, got some new friends, got laid and unironically had a ton of fun. Also, I started chatting with random people on the street, in shops, at the library, at my university etc. a lot more. I used to think that most people wouldn’t want to talk to me, that I was too awkward/weird etc. but most people want to meet new people. Several of my friends/acquaintances literally told me something along the lines of
> user, it really feels like you’ve changed. What happened? I didn’t know how cool you were a couple of years ago.
Now I have no problems talking to people at parties, at work, at bars etc.

I'm a social idiot but I'm a doctor.

>But there's the gap in meeting someone.
>opening your heart to them.
Jesus, dude. There's so middle ground. Just make a little small talk, crack some jokes.

I've been doing that for several years, it doesn't fucking work.

It 100% worked for me. Perhaps because my main issues were low confidence in social situations and social anxiety. I was never actually bad at socializing, I was just too afraid/anxious to do it.

Yeah, because I didn't have anxiety or depression during middle and high school, yet nobody wanted to talk to me.

>When will people start hiring by actual skills rather than some fake background history?
nobody wants to work with an autist, that's why.

then enjoy having a psychopath as boss or coworker lol

Look at this sociopath trying to feel better about himself

how does one break into sales? I can probably get the spec listing spazlord side down. I assume you are working with products that are more commercially oriented, not cars or some shit where it all comes down to pointing out shiny baubles.

Get on with an entry level gig with reviews for a good training program. Good salesmen are made and you’ll spend time learning to ask the right questions and listening really fookin well.

>dumber people than me
proof is in the pudding. if theyre more successful than you, chances are they are smarter than you in atleast one or a couple ways

>just be social breh

I am unwilling, not unable, I'd rather shovel shit alone so I can be alone with my train of thought and not have some bland dull normie try to act funny thinking he is Machiavelli.

There's the impressionable asshole and just the asshole that no one wants to associate with because of their brash and rude attitudes. Trust me, being the impressionable asshole that makes people laugh at someone's expense makes people like you better. I've been the asshole who made people laugh and made some awkward by my comments and they all gravitated towards me. Due to some circumstances in my life that happened, I've suffered from depression and social isolation and I've kinda mellowed down and people don't take notice of me anymore and don't have that assholish attitude anymore and the difference is night and day. No one bats an eye or even will associate with you if you are some meek, down-to-earth guy. I don't know what it is about jokester assholes but people like to gravitate towards them.

Meant for

Get cashier job at small shop. Force yourself to talk with co-workers (about normalfag shit, NOT Jow Forums) when not standing on register.

enjoy being poor

Doctor is the worst job for bad social skills, good luck extracting clinically relevant datas out of people if you can't communicate with them, I don't even speak about having to deal with the family, your peers and the nurses.

Spergs should remain behind their computers.

Lol this. Patients won’t even fucking talk to you. We have an autistic Canadian in our class and he’s so awkward and pts feel so uncomfortable around him. Any spergs that make it through either go straight to path or micro. Surgeons won’t tolerate you because you’re hard to get on with, and you’ll do bad in med because you can’t take a decent history.

“Do you drink?”
“I-I used to a bit, but not anymore. I- I swear.....”
“Ok then. Nil alcohol hx”

Pts crp and lfts are sky high and guy is jaundice but the sperg is too literal to read bt the lines.

Get fucked, lmao

unironically low test

people who make eye contact and 'know what to say' dont do it because they know what they're doing, they just dont care

>force myself to go to bars alone and chat/party with complete strangers
how do you start the conversation?
>>see group talking to each other
>>interrupt them
i don't think i can be more entertaining than their original conversation before i interrupted them. worried they will eventually ask where my friends are

>chatting with random people on the street, in shops, at the library
strangers or people you knew? how did you start the conversations?

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Retail made me hate talking to people way more than I already did and I felt my brain rotting away
0/10 would not recommend

Meeting people is easier since they're a new challenge and could be interesting and have something new to tell you. Most people get boring quickly and are unbearable to talk to regularly.

how do you meet new people in the first place?

Bitcoin trader not require social skills
it require ansocial skills

interesting

Just join a local Toastmasters club, they're everywhere I used to suck at talking to people, then I read How to win friends & Influence people by dale carnegue and realized it was important for life & business in general.
Then I Join Toastmasters and my life is infinitely better because of the skills I've gotten there

thanks
i've started toastmasters actually, but i'm stuck on coming up with a speech topic for my 2nd speech (already did the intro speech)

75% of the speeches seems to be motivating type of speech with anecdotes about their life

i can't motivate anyone, my life is a mess

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you got really good at taking tests but you fail at the most basic human survival instinct. If we didn't live in the modern world you would have been culled a long time ago. Social intelligence is a thing as much as autistic neets like to pretend its not. Being likeable is just as important if not more important than raw talent or skill in many occupations. You claim to be smart and you may be, yet you foolishly cling to the notion that everyone else who does better than you is subhuman and your skills and intelligence alone will make you successful then get frustrated and post here when it inevitably doesn't work out the way you expected it to.

Lift weights and stop watching porn if you aren't doing those two things already. At least some of your anxiety will subside.

>you'll never suckle on those titties as she rides your dick

This, boxing/lifting weights and nofap/noporn makes confident if you haven't do it before. I did this when I was on college and my confidence skyrocketed but unfortunately this is like any other addiction where you can fall again in the same cycle of no working out and watching porn/masturbating (like am I right now).

This is a lie.

It won't necessarily make you confident by itself, but feeling healthier and stronger should help with that.

Your taste in women is top shelf though. Keep posting bro.

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shes perfect

This. In all my years of trying to socialize it has never worked. You will always be an outsider if you're too weird.

She's up there for sure

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how much does it cost per hour for a girl like that?

i lift weights

i try to stop watching porn, haven't for 2 weeks now
the most i ever did was 1 month, and tbqh didn't feel any different

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This.
Steve Jobs didn’t write one line of code.

Same here, stopped watching porn indefinitely. That's the trick for me, not to have a certain "goal" of how long I will go. I'm more motivated to flirt with girls since I don't have my easy dopamine fix.

Nah . I quit my software dev job and went into sales. It was a huge change and on the beginning it was really awkward and my sales were poor. With time it become easier to connect with people and if people like you they buy from you. I have my wage + commission with each sale. I don't work full time but I don't really need to. Im not making as much as I did in it but I don't have to bring work home and do additional 3-4 hours per night because mah deadlines and because senior pajeet requested last minute changes. I also have more time for myself and gf. We were in Italy in summer and currently in Denmark. You will find that in many jobs it isn't the guy who has the best technical knowledge that has the highest pay , but the one that makes all the people like him.

>>just talk to people
>it's
>not
>that
>fucking
>simple
>and
>you
>fucking
>know
>it

I'm not autistic, but my therapist once tols me he thinks I am close as someone can get to having Asperger's without actually having it. He actually held up both his hands, raised one and said "let's say on this end is Asperger's," and then raised the other one "and this end is someone with extremely good social skills... Now, this is you." And then he brought the hand representing good social skills all the way to the autistic hand and was like "you don't have have Asperger's, but you're right here. You are about as close as anyone can get to it."

And you know what?

I spent until I was 21 not knowing why people reacted the way did to me. Without a bunch of effort, my voice would crack and I would start to whisper in conversation with people. I actually thought one shouldn't show emotions, so i made an effort not to laugh or smile until I was like... 18, 19?

I once liked a girl when I was 21 and so of course I made fun of her at a university event until she told me she was going to cry and called me a jerk. I immediately left and cried in a bathroom.

Some things helped me:

1. I wondered aloud why people kept saying it was weird that I wore heavy jeans to a university running event and my philosophy professor answered "social norms". Then I thought, norms are rules. And I realized, there are rules to socializing with people. It's not just that people do things and then you do things and then they do things and then they don't talk to you anymore- there are really rules. And many of them, nobody will tell you, so you have to watch like a hawk. Look at people's faces and body language and see what they do.

2. My manager at an internship was a big intimidating, masculine, bald man but his voice was pretty high and he was super polite and always smiling. I instantly felt comfortable around him and realized, I wanted other people to feel comfortable around me. I ended up trying to copy how behavior. I went too far and people thought I was gay and way too retardedly polite but it was better than being silent except for when I would make fun of people, thinking that I was being super funny and bonding by talking shit to them.

3. I moved to NYC and went on a bunch of dates and paid attention to my date's behavior. Usually, I didn't know how to react in each situation- I was just doing and saying whatever I could think of, sometimes quite nervously. After each date, I tried to think: when she smiled, what happened right before? What happened right after? There were times someone would laugh and smile and keep talking, and other times they would laugh and smile and say they "uhh, have to go", and after a while I started to notice when my dates were turned off by something I said. E.g., I had some mice in NY apartment once and noticed some "cringe" smiles and some dead conversations after I kept mentioning them, so I stopped talking about the mice in my apartment.

I also noticed that I get treated better if I wear clothes that fit and look clean so i started wearing collared shirts, paying attention to what people online think looks good (for the love of God, do not ever fucking wear square-toed dress shoes or boots. they look so fucking bad and you look like a clueless dork).

Now I have thousands of matches on tinder and can keep a conversation going.

As people talk, pay attention to what you can ask about and share about. Think of each topic as a branching tree, like a binary tree or something. And you can transition between topics by bringing up a relevant idea, asking a question, etc. Have some basic ideas about current events and your own interests ready. And get interested or at least about normie things.