Capitalism

what out user, that one OCD spaz user is going to show up and mention disraeli

>whats my opinion on a 10min vid of a guy giving his opinion on a system that has never existed before.

I guess I think it wouldn't work. You need a central figure to be a moderator in civil disputes and to protect property rights in order for capitalism to work at a societal level.

I don't. I don't pay taxes into a Jewish designed debt system. I do not contribute to a broken system. I am part of a global citizenship using mathematics to secure humanity's financial freedom.

this is the truth most are unwilling to accept but it's the only truth nonetheless
capitalism IS inherently bad.
Property is theft and no reasonable person would deny that

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Your system would lead to people living in mud huts and dieing of malnurishment when their farms to produce their expected yields.

this shouldn't even be a question in a board not utterly infested with normalfags
capitalism is the only system in which the atypical has any chance of survival. the more socialist/communist in a society, the more persecution for those too far from the norm

Death to all collectivists. Maintaining free markets and free minds is our only hope of getting off this rock as a species.

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Lived in gommunizm.
t. East Yuro Fag
Now it is incomparably better
Own a fucking house, my fucking company, cars, vacations. Even own fucking US stocks.
Am simply happy all day everyday !
t. 45 yo goner

>explicitly advocating for atypes to survive
>stupid argument based on some imaginary moving mean

user didn't mention his ideology, you're capitalist adled brain made some pretty big assumptions.
on the other hand, we know capitalism leads to living in broken down vehicles and living a life strung along on food with no nutritional value.
well done.

At least they have shit to eat and objects to live in.

>capitalist realism intensifies

Surplus value extracted from labor is much bigger. People have no idea how much money companies make off their labor.

>advocating for normie society
>ever
you're here
on Jow Forums
you have facebook, twitter, reddit, literally every place on the internet is favorable to your opinions and your way of being
yet you come to one place that used to be different until your numbers changed the place
normiedom is literal cancer, spreading and consuming until all that remains is waste
you faggots are ruining the earth and in just a few centuries there won't be anything left even for your kind
a humane society would sterilize normies. at least it's kind of what we're doing as most of you fall for nihilist memes and end up wageslaving and traveling instead of making af amily

Capitalism isn't an ideology. Nobody invented it, they just noticed it was happening and studied it. It's a natural process. It's another word for life.

I don't 100% "support capitalism", whatever that means, it does need wise regulation by a small government to stop things like rivers being polluted by industrial waste. But generally it's just... life. You work hard or you starve, unless you're lucky enough for some other people to care about you and give you stuff.

Ive literally been using Jow Forums since 2006.
This is my first image in my /b/ folder.
I singlehandedly suggested to moot to instate the Jow Forums pass, saving the final future of this shit hole. (g00k has gone on to ruin)
The value of Jow Forums isn't that it's the last bastion for weirdos, it's that the signal to noise value is so loud you have to create your own opinion.

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Theft from who?

safety is a big value you didnt include

s/final future/financial future

>tfw you've been cucked so hard by an ideology that you actually believe it's an extension of some immutable natural law

Better than any other lism

Show me the capitalist manifesto. Tell me who invented it, when and by what authority it was instigated.

Thought not. Pathetic.

>hur dur I know how to play the game, but I don't know any of the rules

if you were smart you would know that rent-seeking is the end game of this shitcoaster and would be pursuing that route as quickly as possible.

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even your prophet adam smith was concerned that rent seeking would ruin capitalism.

His ever important invisible hand wasn't regarding efficient markets, it was some magical mechanism dissuading globalism.

But now you've got both and capitalism is on it's last legs.

I could tell you what happens next, but I don't think it'd make sense to you.

the absolute state of ancap retards who follow and ideology that's never been practiced and never will

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Obviously neo-classical, Reagan/ Thatcherism is fucking awful, soulless corporate slavery. Capitalism unregulated leads to this. I mean we pretty much have anarcho-capitalism. Rich people don't get punished for crimes, hire their own police, and buy political power.

But capitalism itself is simply a natural phenomenon- people working for their own benefit. So is true socialism- people looking after each other. It's down to a people to form a strong state that can balance the two forces for the common benefit. That's what's lacking today; national unity to oppose selfish interest. A planned, centralised economy is not the answer. Have some imagination and don't blindly follow an ideology.

I don't do. Capitalism is the mass foolishment system where you have to inherit or almost sell your soul to get something and at the same way others can create "wealth" from nothing just because "yes".

Almost everyone get fooled that we live in a fair and trustable system but we don't. Usury profit is higher than most of the real activities.

>that fucking appeal to nature fallacy
try harder faggot

Reaganism/Thatcherism is an evolution of Capitalism that was unavoidable.
If you read Papa Marx's book up there you would have known already.

The rest of your ideological drivel makes literally no sense. Capital will always find a way of procuring more capital. It's literally an economic cancer.

If you want to argue that the only way to reign in capital is to have some national unity, go read Karl Polyani's Great Transformation. He describes how Capitalism will turn into Fascism.

>Have some imagination and don't blindly follow an ideology.
you're the one stumping for the long capitalist cock that fucks you five days a week.

I don't, but I am leveraging the capitalistic system so I can get out and live on St. Kitts and chill with my boy Ver

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Literally this
If I didn't live in a capitalist country then I'd be a poorfag

than you should just drawn yourself because you're statistically eating and drinking water and breathing something that some random poor thing somewhere doesn't have because of you

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I dont "support capitalism", capitalism is just what happens when you don't adopt retarded communist policies that end up making everyone poor and hungry.

The communists have proven incompetent and murderous of their own people on a massive scale whenever they've sniffed the top. The pyramid's not going anywhere, I'd rather live under a muslim king than you chucklefucks. At least a merely selfish ruler is largely happy as long as the taxes come in, there is no bottom for satiating those demanding ideological purity.

>nature is wrong if I wish hard enough
>thinks defining capitalism and saying it's natural but needs to be reigned is shilling for capitalism
>thinks pascal distribution is an argument against one specific system

You commies are just plain dumb. You come here spewing ad hominems to anyone who rationally disagrees with you, and you literally don't know anything. Its pretty funny. You clearly have no brain.

How stupid you have to be to make your arguments using the labour theory of value?

The saddest part is that the LTV wasn't a marxist invention but it was actually Adam Smith who came up with it, marxists just appropriated the stupidest part of his thinking and discarded all the actually valuable stuff..

>Property is theft and no reasonable person would deny that
lol sure my house somehow steals from other houses, right.

>on the other hand, we know capitalism leads to living in broken down vehicles and living a life strung along on food with no nutritional value.

in capitalism that only true for the dumbest 1-3%. in communism, only the most statist 1-3% dont live like that.

>He describes how Capitalism will turn into Fascism.
Fucking lol I bet he thinks Italians turned Fascist due to capitalism, huh?

I find it incredible there is so much left for the rest of us, in the west at least, with the amount locked up by the top tiers in the world

because i'm not stupid enough to think that we have lived in a truly capitalist society for the past hundred years, let alone think that capitalism is responsible for the fucking shuddering downfall in civility and intellect that we've suffered in that time when its fragments have been the sole single thing that has been protecting western civilization

because i dont completely hate money and i enjoy actually eating food 3 times a day. also, im not a cannibal and have a 138 IQ.

Social consturctionists need to be lined up and shot. Essentialism or bust. I bet you also belive that there are no biological differences betweeen men and women either, you fucking cretin.

Theft from who? Before "property," how can you steal something that doesn't belong to anyone?

Why do i support capitalism ? Because beautiful things like tronbet.pro can be built

Every authoritarian empire eventually collapses. Rome, Nazi Germany, the USSR. And someday our current empire, which relies on locking people in cages for nonviolent crimes, will also fall. Would you rather have children that require threats of punishment in order to behave or would you rather have children that learn to behave without being punished? Our system is holding humanity back! Like a crutch it’s preventing us from growing and adapting to FREEDOM and responsibility! People get lazy and RELY on government instead of learning to handle their own problems! But no one wants to declare anarchy tomorrow! We have an OBLIGATION to make sure we have as little authoritarian VIOLENCE as possible! And one day that will mean NO AUTHORITARIANISM! Imagine when humans colonize the solar system? Are we going to boss around another fucking planet or someone deep in space?

AND a lawless society is not a RULELESS society! When people go to church camp they follow additional rules because they will get kicked out if they dont! IF you dont like what someone is doing then you ARE allowed to kick them off your property!! And communities can figure out who owns what! And you dont need police because you can hire security and have mutual defensive pacts with your neighbors! AND YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS TELLING ANOTHER COMPANY WHAT TO DO!!!

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>If you read Papa Marx's book up there you would have known already.
dogma

IF YOU ARE SO CONFIDENT IN YOUR IDEOLOGY THEN I FUCKING DARE YOU TO READ "THE GULAG ARCHIPELAGO"

IT IS YOUR OBLIGATION TO EMPATHIZE WITH YOUR OPPOSITION IN ORDER TO FIND TRUTH AND RATIONALE AS I AM DOING NOW!! I HAVE READ MARX'S "CAPITAL," AND NOW IT IS YOUR TURN:

EBOOK: archive.org/details/TheGulagArchipelago-Threevolumes/page/n33

AUDIOBOOK: youtu.be/d5InIwcWESk

YOU HAVE NO EXCUSE.. IF YOU REFUSE IT IS SURELY BECAUSE YOU ARE SCARED OF CHALLENGING YOUR OWN EGO SERVING BOURGEOIS ENTITLED DOGMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (only a spoiled brat could hold these opinions)

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_communist_regimes

IT WASNT REAL COMMUNISM REeeeeeeeeeeee

LATE STAGE COMMUNISM REeeeeeeeeeee

HAVE YOU EVER THOUGHT ABOUT HOW PREJUDICE YOU ARE AGAINST RICH PEOPLE!! YOU ARE RICHIST!! AND THE RICH PEOPLE ARE THE ONES MAKING YOUR LUXURIOUS WESTERN LIFESTYLE WITH ALL ITS OPPORTUNITIES POSSIBLE!! RIGHT NOW, THANKS TO CAPITALISM YOU ARE READING THIS WITH THE MOST POWERFUL MEANS OF PRODUCTION THE WORLD HAS EVER KNOWN!! THE COMPUTER!! WITH A COMPUTER YOU CAN CONNECT TO THE GREATEST MARKET EVER CREATED AND SELL YOUR DIGITAL WAREZ!! I MAKE MONEY SITTING AT HOME IN MY UNDERPANTS!! NO MORE IS THERE A BARRIER BETWEEN YOU AND WHAT THE COMMUNISTS CALLED THE INTELLIGENTSIA!!!! YOU ARE PART OF THE PRIVILEGED ACADEMIC INTELLECTUAL CLASS!! I AM ABLE TO SUPPORT MYSELF FINANCIALLY WITH A COMMERCIAL GRADE WORKSTATION I PURCHASED SECOND HAND FROM A CORPORATION AND IS ABLE TO RUN ALL THE PROGRAMS I NEED TO PRODUCE WEALTH!!
LOOK HOW EASY IT IS TO GET FUNDING FOR YOUR DREAMS?! YOU CAN EASILY GET A BUSINESS LOAN!! OR YOU CAN CROWD FUND??! YOU COULD EVEN GET CROWD FUNDING TO PAY FOR YOUR HEALTHCARE OR YOU COULD FUND A COOP OR COMMUNE?! WHY DONT YOU DO THAT INSTEAD OF ADVOCATING FOR MORE HORRIBLE VIOLENCE YOU INSOLENT SWINE?! WHY DONT LEFTISTS EVER DONATE TO CHARITY AND WHY DO RIGHT WING CHRISTIAN CHURCHES TAKE CARE OF THE HOMELESS IN THE UNITED STATES INSTEAD OF THE PEOPLE SAYING WE NEED TO STEAL FROM THE RICH TO HELP THE POOR?!!? IF YOU BELIEVE IN DEMOCRACY WHY DONT YOU BELIEVE IN VOLUNTARY CHARITY!?! IF MORE THAN 50 PERCENT OF PEOPLE WOULD DONATE THEN SURELY WE COULD HELP THOSE WHO ARE TRULY UNFORTUNATE!?

HERE IS A VIDEO CALLED "HOW TO GET THE FUCKING MONEY" AND IT'S ABOUT HOW FUCKING EASY IT IS TO GET MONEY TO FUND YOUR BUSINESS PLANS OR DREAMS!!! THESE ARE RICH PEOPLE MAKING THAT POSSIBLE! YET YOU UNGRATEFUL FUCKS BLAME BLAME BLAME AND WANT TO BITE THE HAND THAT FEEDS!! YOU DONT

youtu.be/YjcIRQuCXr0

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businessinsider.com/i-make-work-in-californias-tech-industry-and-i-live-in-my-car-2018-4?IR=T

You don't know what fascism is do you?
Americans believe it's something that could only infect eurotrash, but pride goes before the fall. The truth is that europeans have already come to grips with the fact that monster can live within them, Americans have yet to realize this.

We live in a post-scarcity world.
Of course the remaining paradigm we live in has been constructed by social conventions.
And no, men and women are different and receive different programing, from nature and nurture.

There's not even much I can say to you, except you think my argument somehow hinges on an ad hom, and then you throw out an ad hom.
Facts don't have to be palatable to be true.

they think you are entitled to wealth from labor

they think if you go out in the middle of the street and dig a hole then you deserve money for it

Smart people win, dumb people lose. As it should be.

>You don't know what fascism is do you?
>implying implications
Capitalism doesn't lead to fascism lol. People only focus on the nazi and never italy.

YOU DONTFUCKING DESERVE CAPITALISM YOU FUCKING DOG!!!! YOU DESERVE TO ROT IN YOUR OWN ENVIOUS FILTH AND CONDEMNATION! HAVE YOU NO SENSE OF HONOR OR GAMESMANSHIP!? BUT MATTERS NOT BECAUSE CAPITALISM IS LIKE JESUS AND WILL FORGIVE YOU NO MATTER WHAT YOUR SINS AND BLESS YOU WITH LIMITLESS PROSPERITY ONCE YOU DECIDE TO REPENT AND LET GO OF THE MARXIST DEMON CLUTCHING YOUR SOUL AND YOUR BALLS!!! LOOK HOW EASY IT IS TO GET MONEY: youtu.be/YjcIRQuCXr0

THE MARKET WILL REWARD YOU IF YOU WORK HARD AND HAVE FAITH IN NOT ONLY THE MARKET BUT YOURSELF!! IF YOU BUILD IT THEY WILL CUM!!!! I HAVE SEEN WITH MY OWN TWO EYES HOW QUICKLY A PERSON CAN LEARN TO SUPPORT THEMSELVES FINANCIALLY USING THE COMPUTER AND INTERNET! THE GREATEST MEANS OF PRODUCTION EVER CONCEIVED!! AND YOU DONT EVEN HAVE TO MOVE YOUR BIG LAZY ASS!! YOU CAN LITERALLY MAKE MONEY IN BETWEEN MASTURBATION SESSIONS!! EVEN KARL MARXX WOULD BE PROUD!!... THAT DEGENERATE SMELLY FUCK!! I HEARD MARX SMELT LIKE SULFUR BECAUSE HE WAS POSSESSED BY 666 BEELZEBUB!!

NO MORE DOES MAN REQUIRE A FACTORY OR A FARM OR LAND TO MAKE MONEY AND SUPPORT HIMSELF!! BUT RATHER ALL YOU NEED TO MAKE A BUCK IS THE 20 DOLLARS THAT IS REQUIRED TO PURCHASE A SECOND HAND WORKSTATION CLASS COMPUTER ON EBAY AND INSTALL LINUX ON IT!!
LINUX WAS A DECENTRALIZED PROJECT BTW AND LINUS TORVALDS SPECIFICALLY CREATED GIT (GITHUB) SO HE COULD WORK ON LINUX IN HIS UNDERPANTS!! THIS WOULD NEVER FLY IN COMMUNISM BECAUSE THE PARTY LEADERS AND FOREMEN WOULD REQUIRE WORKERS TO REPORT TO THE OFFICE EVERY MORNING AND IF THEY ARE LATE THEY WOULD GET SENT TO THE GULAG!! HAVE YOU EVER WORKED FOR GOVERNMENT!!?!??!?! SO MUCH WASTE YET THEY ALWAYS REQUIRE YOU TO BE THERE AND MOST IMPORTANTLY LOOK BUSY AND JUST NOT GET ANYONE IN TROUBEL!! YET THEY WASTE SOOO MUCH MONEY!! THE DEFINITION OF CORRUPTION AND A DEMON OF EFFICIENCY AND SLAVERY!!!

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Don't mean to sound like an incel here but how would sexual inequality be dealt with in a communist society? With capitalism if you want to fuck hot girls you have to either be a Chad or have money. If we removed wealth inequality then only the Chads would get the hot girls and if you weren't born with top tier genetics you'd be SOL. There isn't a way to redistribute height or jawlines.

How come cost of living correlates to the amount of socialism in a country? Sweden has one of the highest costs of living? Then united states then the developing world. This is correlated to the amount of forceful socialism. Socialist institutions don't want cost of living to be low because then the people wont need them and can hop off the hamster wheel that they engineered for them. Notice how capitalism brought the cost of the computer, the most powerful means of production in history, to the point where you can buy a second hand workstation for 50 bucks and make a living with it. The same could be done with sustainable living, like biofuel reactors, aeroponic gardens for food, and 3D printers. But the socialists NEED people to NEED them and they will fight against decentralization!

THE SOCIALIST INSTITUTION NEEDS PEOPLE CRAWLING ON THEIR HANDS AND KNEES TO THE WELFARE OFFICE OR THE BREAD LINE!! AND BERNIE SANDERS LITERALLY SAID BREAD LINES ARE A GOOD THING!! HOW PITIFUL IS THE BRAIN OF THE ENVIOUS AND UNIMAGINATIVE SOCIALISTS! CAPITALISM UNLOCKS THE POWER OF CREATIVITY AND WILL LEAD US TO A POST SCARCITY SITUATION WHERE THE BOTTOM 80 PERCENT WILL HAVE MORE PURCHASING POWER THAN A KING! JUST LIKE WE HAVE OUR CHEAP COMPUTERS NOW.. SOON THE SOCIALISTS WILL BE DEFEATED AND THE COST OF GROWING OUR OWN FOOD WITH AEROPONIC GARDENS, PRODUCING OUR OWN BIOFUEL, AND PRODUCING OUR OWN COMPLICATED MECHANICAL PARTS WITH CHEAP 3D PRINTERS ON OUR OWN PROPERTY! WITH CAPITALISM WE WILL SURELY REACH THE STARS!

THIS IS WHY THE CANCER OF COMMUNISM IS LITERALLY THE MOST DANGEROUS THING FOR THE SURVIVAL OF THE HUMAN SPECIES!! LOOK WHO IS DRIVING INNOVATION WITH SPACE COLONIZATION!!! CAPITALISTS!!!! COMMUNIST PIGS WILL ALWAYS SAY THAT SPACE TECH IS A WASTE.. EXCEPT FOR MISSILES TO BLOW UP THE PLANET, AND WILL ALWAYS SEEK TO DISTRIBUTE WEALTH AMONG THOSE WHO WASTE IT.. BEFORE EXPONENTIAL GROWTH AND INNOVATION IS REACHED!! COMMUNISTS WOULD NEVER CURE DISEASES!!!

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>capitalism becomes fascism

LOOK WHO JACKS UP THE PRICES OF DRUGS!! THE GOVERNMENT!! THEY REQUIRE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF CLINICAL TRIALS BEFORE SOMETHING CAN MAKE IT TO MARKET!! THIS IS HOW THEY PREVENTED MALE BIRTHCONTROL FROM CUMMING TO MARKET BECAUSE IT WOULD INTERFERE WITH THEIR HORMONAL BIRTH CONTROL MONOPOLY!!

THERE WILL ALWAYS BE BRIBERY AS LONG AS THERE IS AUTHORITY!! THE LEFTIST SOLUTION IS TO GIVE MORE MONEY AND POWER TO THE CENTRAL AUTHORITY!! LOOK WHAT THAT ACCOMPLISHED.. BRIBES WERE COMMON IN THE SOVIET UNION AND THE RUSSIAN MOB BECAME THE MOST POWERFUL CRIMINAL ORGANIZATION EVER ALONG WITH THE CHINESE TRIADS!! THEY ONLY STRENGTHEN BLACK MARKETS!! THE SOLUTION IS TO GET RID OF AUTHORITARIANISM ALL TOGETHER AND ALLOW PEOPLE DOMINION OF THEIR OWN DOMAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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National socialism is just socialism lite and KILLED 3 TIMES LESS PEOPLE (20 mil vs 40-80 mil with marxism which we will take the average as 60 mil).. kinda like democratic socialism. Way less scary to. I'd a million times rather live in Nazi Germany than the USSR or North Korea. Even in the military the nazis at least gave their men guns while communists literally had to fight each other for a rifle.. I mean could you imagine something more terrifying and dehumanizing than the holocaust?? OH yeah communists, who strip you of all your humanity even if you are one of the party members although you'd most likely end up in one of their death camps.. aka gulags. AND DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM IMPRISONS MILLIONS OF NON VIOLENT PEOPLE JUST LIKE NATIONAL SOCIALISM!!! BOTH HITLER AND THE EU PUT DRUG ADDICTS, DRUG USERS, AND DRUG SELLERS INTO CAGES/CAMPS!! YOU ARE NAZI PIGU!!!!

At least in Nazi Germany if you didn't arouse suspicion you could still get luxuries and sell things.. although people would try to rat eachother out all the time like ANY FORM OF SOCIALISM BREEDS!! Notice how today people are so quick to point the finger online and accuse people or narc them out for non violent crimes just because they dont like them! The french started doing this and the nazis were used as a means of getting revenge on your neighbor for personal matters.. but only rat shit fuck narc tattle tail pieces of shit like you would rat out their neighbor! THIS IS WHY THE STATE LIKES TO PROMOTE THE #METOO MOVEMENT BECAUSE IT CREATES PARANOIA WHERE EVERYONE THINKS THEIR NEIGHBOR IS GUILTY OF SOMETHING WHILE BEING AFRAID THAT ONE OF THE LITTLE MISTAKES THEY HAVE MADE THROUGHOUT THEIR LIFE MIGHT BE EXPOSED AND BECAUSE OF THAT THEY WILL GO OUT OF THEIR WAY TO POINT THE FINGER AT THEIR NEIGHBORS AND POINT OUT THEIR LITTLE HUMAN MISTAKES AND EXXAGERATE THEM BECAUSE WE ARE ALL AFRAID AND DIVIDED!!!!!!!

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good god goys, you're beyond help.

the thing is you believe women pick partners based on a set of qualities that is most valuable in a capitalist market.
They are all quiet literally golddiggers.
Without the profit motive incentive, even women find other things to value.
This article is a little bit shit, but the testimonies illustrate that capitalism even commodifies romance.

good night.

MY IMPRESSION OF YOU:
>REeeee TOTALITARIAN VIOLENCE AND MASS KILLINGS IS JUST FINE AS LONG AS IT'S NOT PRIMARILY BASED ON RACE OR ETHNICITY REeeeEEE

HAVE YOU EVER THOUGHT ABOUT HOW PREJUDICE YOU ARE AGAINST RICH PEOPLE!! YOU ARE RICHIST!! AND THE RICH PEOPLE ARE THE ONES MAKING YOUR LUXURIOUS WESTERN LIFESTYLE WITH ALL ITS OPPORTUNITIES POSSIBLE!! RIGHT NOW, THANKS TO CAPITALISM YOU ARE READING THIS WITH THE MOST POWERFUL MEANS OF PRODUCTION THE WORLD HAS EVER KNOWN!! THE COMPUTER!! WITH A COMPUTER YOU CAN CONNECT TO THE GREATEST MARKET EVER CREATED AND SELL YOUR DIGITAL WAREZ!! I MAKE MONEY SITTING AT HOME IN MY UNDERPANTS!! NO MORE IS THERE A BARRIER BETWEEN YOU AND WHAT THE COMMUNISTS CALLED THE INTELLIGENTSIA!!!! YOU ARE PART OF THE PRIVILEGED ACADEMIC INTELLECTUAL CLASS!! I AM ABLE TO SUPPORT MYSELF FINANCIALLY WITH A COMMERCIAL GRADE WORKSTATION I PURCHASED SECOND HAND FROM A CORPORATION AND IS ABLE TO RUN ALL THE PROGRAMS I NEED TO PRODUCE WEALTH!!

LOOK HOW EASY IT IS TO GET FUNDING FOR YOUR DREAMS?! YOU CAN EASILY GET A BUSINESS LOAN!! OR YOU CAN CROWD FUND??! YOU COULD EVEN GET CROWD FUNDING TO PAY FOR YOUR HEALTHCARE OR YOU COULD FUND A COOP OR COMMUNE?! WHY DONT YOU DO THAT INSTEAD OF ADVOCATING FOR MORE HORRIBLE VIOLENCE YOU INSOLENT SWINE?! WHY DONT LEFTISTS EVER DONATE TO CHARITY AND WHY DO RIGHT WING CHRISTIAN CHURCHES TAKE CARE OF THE HOMELESS IN THE UNITED STATES INSTEAD OF THE PEOPLE SAYING WE NEED TO STEAL FROM THE RICH TO HELP THE POOR?!!? IF YOU BELIEVE IN DEMOCRACY WHY DONT YOU BELIEVE IN VOLUNTARY CHARITY!?! IF MORE THAN 50 PERCENT OF PEOPLE WOULD DONATE THEN SURELY WE COULD HELP THOSE WHO ARE TRULY UNFORTUNATE!?

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shit sorry, forgot the link
nytimes.com/2017/08/12/opinion/why-women-had-better-sex-under-socialism.html

>good god goys, you're beyond help.
>capitalism requires limited government to not create monopolies and allow for the flow of the free market
>lol capitalism will make the government bigger :^)

and he gives up and resorts to personal attacks

that's what i thought faggot FOH

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>nytimes.com/2017/08/12/opinion/why-women-had-better-sex-under-socialism.html
lol they had better sex because they had literally nothing else to do

>nytimes.com/2017/08/12/opinion/why-women-had-better-sex-under-socialism.html
annnd corporate propaganda

something tells me youre an ancap just masquerading to strengthen your own understanding of communism.. i do that sometimes.. not bad but i think there are some stronger points you can make and you havent posted that one essay yet about anarcho socialism that is actually fucking retarded but leftists go nuts over it and we need to learn how to defuse it like the inception mind virus that it is

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also there was wayyyy more rape under communism and women were told to just cook and clean and stfu because there was a shortage of men because so many of them died or got sent to gulags

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lol that article shills farming collectives but..

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collectivization_in_the_Soviet_Union
>Peasants viewed collectivization as the end of the world.[11] By no means was joining the collective farm (also known as the kolkhoz) voluntary. The drive to collectivize came without peasant support.
>During the Famine of 1932-33 it's estimated that 7.8-8.1 million people died from starvation.[42] The implication is that the total death toll (both direct and indirect) for Stalin's collectivization program was on the order of 12 million people.
>most historians agree that the disruption caused by collectivization and the resistance of the peasants significantly contributed to the Great Famine of 1932–1933, especially in Ukraine, a region famous for its rich soil (chernozem). This particular period is called "Holodomor" in Ukrainian. During the similar famines of 1921–1923, numerous campaigns – inside the country, as well as internationally – were held to raise money and food in support of the population of the affected regions. Nothing similar was done during the drought of 1932–1933, mainly because the information about the disaster was suppressed by Stalin.

imagine your family and village starving but you are forced to send the grain from your farm to elite communist party members in the capital district.. COMMUNISM CONCENTRATES POWER IN EVEN FEWER PEOPLE THAN CAPITALISM

AT LEAST IN A PARETO DISTRIBUTION THERE IS NO LIMIT TO THE COMFORT OF THE BOTTOM 80 PERCENT!! WE CAN REACH POST SCARCITY WHERE THE POOREST PEOPLE HAVE THE PURCHASING POWER OF KINGS AT WALMART!!!!!!!! AND DONT GIVE ME THE CHINESE LABOR STRAWMAN BECAUSE AUTOMIZATION AND 3D PRINTERS!!!!

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Free market capitalism is the only proven system that works.

because it's the best system we have until we can use blockchain and AI for corruption free governance

>wanting to cu.ck yourself to a robot

you cant make this up

leftists literally are just begging to be dominated by someone or something

daddy issues???

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exactly why we have an obligation TO HAVE AS LITTLE AUTHORITARIAN VIOLENCE AS POSSIBLE

GULAGS ARE LIKE THE SACRIFICIAL INCA TEMPLES!!

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I've yet to see anyone disprove 7vBZ2Qg1.

who said AI over lord? AI can properly represent the interests of citizens, unlike the corrupt fuck politicians who go house knocking fooling constituents into believing they care about their problems but just end up doing whatever their biggest donors or whoever want instead

K SO YOU WANT A FACEBOOK ALGO TO DIRECT THE VIOLENCE OF A LEFTIST MOB TO CU.CK YOU MORE EFFICIENTLY!!!

ANY KIND OF CENTRALIZED SYSTEM IS GOING TO PRODUCE COLLATERAL DAMAGE!!!! YOU LIKE HOW YOUTUBE FLAGS VIDEOS RANDOMLY???? YOU WANT PEOPLE TO BE RANDOMLY TAKEN TO THE GULAG??? OH WAIT THAT ALREADY HAPPENED AND STILL HAPPENS???

YOU HAVE THIS INNATE DESIRE TO BE PART OF SOMETHING GREATER AND TO HAVE A PARENTAL GOVERNMENT CONTROL YOUR LIFE CHOICES AND YOU ARE INSENSITIVE TO THOSE THAT LOATH THAT KIND OF EXISTENCE AND WHO WILL BECOME VICTIMS!!!

HAVE YOU READ THE GULAG ARCHIPELAGO???

EBOOK: archive.org/details/TheGulagArchipelago-Threevolumes/page/n33

AUDIOBOOK: youtu.be/d5InIwcWESk

YOU LIKE HOW THE MODERN DRUG WAR AND PRISON INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX FUNCTIONS???? WHY DO YOU WANT THAT ON STEROIDS????

YOU JUST LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE BEING TOLD WHAT TO DO BY OTHER MEN OR EVEN ROBOTS DONT YOU??? YOU JUST WANT TO BE THE WHORE OF SOME LEFTIST MOB DONT YOU??? WHY IS THAT SO DEEPLY INGRAINED IN YOUR PERSONALITY???

AND WHY CANT YOU COMPROMISE BY ACCEPTING THAT YOU COULD HAVE A VOLUNTARIST MARXIST STYLE COMMUNE OR SOMETHING????? WHY CANT PEOPLE VOLUNTARILY BELONG TO A MARXIST COMMUNITY?? WHY DO THEY **HAVE TO BE** SLAVES?? WHY CANT YOU USE CROWDFUNDING TO RAISE MONEY TO START A COMMUNE OR USE CROWDFUNDING TO FUND SOCIAL SAFETY NETS??? YOURE ON A FUCKING CRYPTOCURRENCY ANIME FORUM FOR FUCKING CRYING THE FUCK OUT LOUD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Best system doesn't exist yet. A system controlled by an AI with no money and a post-scarcity world after the population has significantly decreased to endure everyone gets all they need to live comfortably.

Can you go back to Jow Forums or whatever?
You're fagging up the board

ID filtered
I'm too high iq to waste time on shit posters such as yourself

it's either a bot shit posting or his brain is rotten from spending too much time on the war zone of social engineering that is 4chans political discussion board
either way he's a literal NPC

Dont. Mixed economy ftw.
This entire thread is full of capitalism/communism false dichotomy. Get a clue fahgets

>humans are flawed
>but an AI would be perfect
> an AI made by humans

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like a true leftist you forfeit and reduce yourself to personal attacks because deep down they know im right

eurocuck spotted

>reee the government is soo corrupt and owned by corps so we need to give the gov more money and use the gov to fix the corrupt gov

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Where did I day we should give the toca more money & power?

I'm simply pointing out the fundamental flaw of AI-cultists.

>america is free market capitalist
this is what burgers actually believe

The freedom for voluntary labor and trade is a basic human right and a core pillar for a stable society.

How come cost of living correlates to the amount of socialism in a country? Sweden has one of the highest costs of living? Then united states then the developing world. This is correlated to the amount of forceful socialism. Socialist institutions don't want cost of living to be low because then the people wont need them and can hop off the hamster wheel that they engineered for them. Notice how capitalism brought the cost of the computer, the most powerful means of production in history, to the point where you can buy a second hand workstation for 50 bucks and make a living with it. The same could be done with sustainable living, like biofuel reactors, aeroponic gardens for food, and 3D printers. But the socialists NEED people to NEED them and they will fight against decentralization!

SOCIALISTS WILL MAKE SURE THAT TECHNOLOGY WHICH CAN TAKE US TO POST SCARCITY WILL BE REPRESSED BECAUSE THEY NEED THE MASSES CRAWLING ON THEIR HANDS AND KNEES TO THE WELFARE OFFICE OR BREAD LINE TO PAY FOR THEIR INFLATED RENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THEY WILL MAKE REGULATIONS AGAINST PRIVATE GARDENS OR AEROPONIC POTATO GROWING OPERATIONS AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LICENSE TO OWN A 3D PRINTER BECAUSE YOU COULD PRINT DANGEROUS WEAPONS OR OTHER MACHINES THAT THREATEN THE MONOPOLY OF STATE ENTERPRISE, NATIONALIZED CORPORATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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i never said that you fucking retarded fuck.. it's just slightly less socialist than europe.. in fact i call trump a socialist all the time for his economic policies that he criticized on campaign, and for making it even harder to trade crypto legally in teh USA than in europe.. at least in europe they use lube when they fuck you in the ass

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i dont "support" capitalism any more than i "support" war but there are realities in this world we must face, and while they can and must be tempered for human survival they are simply permanent fixtures of an imperfect world as long as people are crawling around on it

>no trust me this time the centralized economy wont be vulnerable to bribery and manipulation and we'll use the new centralized authority to take out the old one

it's teh same hippocratic insanity just with slight variations, and that wasnt even fully pointed at you

no i was actually agreeing with you

i was saying that leftists think that by giving the government more money that will help it not get bribed

>We live in a post-scarcity world.

How can commies be so fucking retarded. Scarcity isn't something that can be eliminated, once you achieve abundance of something you move on to something else more scarce and try to create abundance of that, and then you move to the next, and on and on.

Communists truly live in a parallel universe..

so basically, youre an even bigger cuck than europeens