Are you an oldfag Crypto refugee?

I posted once about the fact this board is really full of generation X being stung by boomer jokes just as much as Zoomers...its been established...lets not repeat that but I'm wondering if this is the only place for us Boomers now?


Bitcointalk was my crypto home, but its a mess of pajeetry bounty whores, no quality control, Hero members are from Calcutta its was the best place in crypto for years with high level debates where all the big names in crypto today would hang out and chat, NXT, NEM, IOTA, BTC, EOS all the big stuff was birthed there.


So people like me can't fucking got to Reddit cause its full of fuuuuuuucking idiots so all we got is this perverted incel forum. Biz is ok but when I click on other sections I'm like why the fuck is wrong with the people here. And some of those are in here too....ffs.


So i'm a refugee. You too?

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Oldfags fall in two camps

The “muh fundamentals, buy and hold” or “ 6k is the bottom!!!” - btfo

Or like myself, see it inevitably going down even more and staying in this range for 1 year minimum before reversal.

On here only the former is welcome. You wont get any good discussion on how to trade and increase your stack on here

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Thats a fucking weird bunch of categories? Whats an oldfag to you. i've been in since 2011 and there are all types in crypto.

My experience and this is from making a lot of mistakes is

-yes hodl does makes sense but only the fucking absolute gems that are way under priced.

-Hodl doesnt mean you don't fucking open your eyes and recognise market cycles. I sold quite a bit last Christmas cause ti was obvious we were peaking.

-There are a ton of good traders who are old fags but not every one is a good trader and probably shouldn't trade. Crypto is full of crying kids cause they fucked up on some short. well fuck them...

-I dont fit your category as I called for even as low as 3k this summer and now I think yeah some sideways but I do see a quicker recovery than last new as this is totally different times than back then. Fuck me crypto felt like only 500 people buying off each other back in 2012.

New fags the way they react to the dips these days should listen to their oldfag elders a bit more then they wouldn't make such stupid mistakes. Oldfags knew 1000x ICO's werent gonna last for long the dipshits.

not an oldfag, but definitely a 30 years old boomer who never was one for the chan culture but slowly got pushed out of every other space as the jewish LGBTQ+ machine spred its tentacles of insanity all around the internet

i think this is a common theme

exactly. anyone with a hint of experience knew.
However I disagree with the fundamental approach. charts tell all. I did spend at least 16 months staring at charts non stop to learn this since those days...

The only fundamentals that matter with BTC is the block reward halving and mining economics. Everything else between then, "fundamental" wise like "muh institutions" or "muh mt gox wiped out all liquidity, there is NO WAY WE CAN BREAK 6K!, ITS TOTALLY DIFFERENT" are faggots who dont get what these market cycles are.

we got a long wait till reward halving. and yes, 3k is a possibility still, but we take it one target at a time.

We are stuck under 6k for at least 1 year now. simple as that. If we get a weekly close down here its a sealed deal. nothing more than some wicks up to 6.2k level or so. We are gonna see some volatility again for a few months before it tapers off after the real bottom, then slow crawl up.

Its the same every time for a reason, the fundamentals mean jack shit other than what I already mentioned. I got a boner when all the other oldfags were getting red in the face telling me "this time its different, due to blah blah" then 6k melted. Lmao. still smiling ear to ear if not for the fact i literally 5x my holdings from it because I actually gained something from being here for so long, instead of falling into the same traps every market cycle

Refugee here.

Crypto fundamentalist. 95% of shit isn't a real cryptocurrency. If it isn't decentralized, permissionless, and censorship resistant, it's not cryptocurrency.

but one factor I think you can't deny is the economy seems to be openly collapsing so you can think we will get perfect fractal slow rise like last time but a serious economic collapse would moon BTC to uncharted territories.

Yeah nothing wrong with fundamentals if a project actually has them. Problem is almost none do...

this board is a shitshow 99% of the time. pajeets and retards. very few actually insightful people like the intelligent Link fudder from 10 days ago explaining why he doesn't see the project going above a few dollars per token.
/lit/ is the only place smart and interesting discussions take place on a regular basis

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I don't trade but there's more to this than TA and cycles
the power of the media or a software bug can send bitcoin in either direction
the cycles might produce energy waiting for a catalyst but it isn't the whole story

but I'm in cold storage so I just follow it daily for entertainment

>Problem is almost none do.

It makes it fucking easy to pick the winners. The problem is that you have to have balls of steel to not 2nd guess yourself as the crowds lose their shit for the shitcoin flavor of the month.

Javier Bardem would have been an amazing Roland Deschain.

Hello everyone, full blown newfag here, I know nothing about crypto, so before I begin researching it, could someone tell me please if bitcoin/crypto can be traded without a smartphone?? Only using a PC w/ internet connection?? Thanks in advance.

True. I wont name names cause then I will be told I have an agenda but i have a few small caps that have almost no vol or buzz yet but my gut knows they will be something at some point. 99% of projects are obviously nothing in terms of innovation whatever the fucking price. Fundamentals do matter, thats why I dignity buy into all the big ICO's cause their fundamentals didn't match their values and eventaully that comes to and end just like cheap as fuck caps with good fundamentals will eventaully find a much higher market price even if it takes a better overall market for them to get there.

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You can. I know Binnace has a decent mobile version. Would I though? no......

it can though you might decide to get a phone that you only use for 2fa

Please post all bounties in the POL section of the forum.

Nah. Consider that the last entire cycle from 100$ peak, tothe 65$ correction to the 1,000$ top, to the 150$ floor was in a BULL MARKET for the world economy. a really strong one.

You honestly believe that a highly speculative asset, which is still 15x what it was 2 years ago will rally? Sorry pal but global markets are correlated. people dont speculate in hard times. And the more institutional money in BTC, the MORE THEY CORRELATE. institutions are more likely to short a highly overvalued speculative asset for easy HEDGE than go long on it when global markets are in turmoil

MAYBE if BTC didnt have all the institutional money here it would be different. However, all you faggots sold out, now you get the whole package. We have direct evidence of this already, the stock market correlates with BTC dips really highly now.

And that will show on the charts. thats the point. TA is not static lol.

I think bitcoin is unironicly digital gold and yes while it has risen as all assets have like Gold would of done too IF it wasn't manipulated with deriveratives then also it will act like Gold is supposed to in a financial crisis ie boom.

So yeah thats my viewpoint. Not worth arguing about it though, lets see what happens.

>low caps

I'm hesitant to touch any low cap coin since rented hashpower is so available now, they have very little security.

>cause then I will be told I have an agenda
name em'. Anyone who's read your thread will see this isn't true. Share the knowledge old man.

yeh ive been here since 2016 so probably not as early as you but bitcointalk was still pretty decent then. i moved to telegram in 2017, then r*ddit for a few months, but they are too retarded there like you said, so i was forced to move to Jow Forums (biz).

i dont mind this board tho. the others are filled with incels and shit. but here, i found a few gems. most recent is dero before it 10x'ed.

another refugee here. I mostly hate this place, but there's nowhere better to find gems and discuss crypto right now. biz is better now than it was in Jan. at least.

I've been on Jow Forums for about 10 years now but just started going to Jow Forums. I'm just trying to soak up all the information I can. I never cared about money before but now I have a kid.

Last time I was gonna buy back in before the reversal but got in way too late. Would have been way better if I just hodleded.

any old fags here have opinions on LINK

>oldfag
>NXT, NEM, IOTA, EOS all the big stuff was birthed there.
confirmed new fag

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I'm just but a simple man who got into crypto to buy steroids back in 2012

Thank for your reply. That's the thing though, I don't have a mobile device/smartphone, nor will I ever, so I would have to trade using other means, namley a PC.

Thanks for your reply. I really want to avoid getting a smartphone pretty much at all costs, I'll look into 2fa though, see what that's all about.

This board is 95% reddit zoomers now. There are only a handful of anons left that have been in crypto more than a year. The rest are all retarded little faggots losing their allowance money on scams.

Spring 17, here. What do you oldies think about nicehash attacks? RVN for example is a shitcoin I like because of the mission statements, but with the X16 option on NH, I'm thinking of bailing the small stack I have left. Are small cap/hash coins without protections from NH vulnerable & to be avoided? How about token/mining economics, is it something worth examining (ex BNT, FCT, ETC switch to capped supply)?