im not an economist but that whole capitalism vs. communism debate seems to me like a scam to trick people out of their rights and property.
whenever people have to pay taxes they cry robbery and muh communism, but they have zero qualm using public property or public services when it befits them.
its sometimes also hard to tell public and private apart when "capitalists" can buy politicians and turn the state into their puppet. or when the state goes putin on capitalists and forces them to do stuff in return.
Elijah Cooper
They have zero qualms because people are practical about these things. They were already fleeced of their money. Might as well use the shit that's already paid for.
Justin Smith
>hegelian idealism Bitch have you even read a word of Marx's The German Ideology?
Carson Jones
>im not an economist but that whole capitalism vs. communism debate seems to me like a scam to trick people out of their rights and property.
At the end of the day, it doesn't really make that much of a difference. As society advance and grows, the government will assume more control of people's lives. It just happens faster under communism than in capitalism. Every complex society in the past ended up treating their citizens like cattle. The Babylonians, the Romans, the Mayans, etc.
Julian Hughes
kys
Mason Williams
Are you disagreeing with the idea that Marx's economic and political idea was informed by hegel's conception of the development of human consciousness in history? Marx's idea was materialist but informed and influenced by Hegel.
Aiden Brown
Sell the useless people to the useful people. In some way that isn't slavery directly. Something that they will actually choose for themselves of their own free will.
Henry Cruz
Holy fuck, a person that legitimately knows Marx on biz. wtf is happening.
Nolan Hughes
>philosophical experiment
It wasn't just some thought experiment. Marx gave an exact recipe on what do to. He laid it all out. He had intended to see communism happen within his lifetime.
>1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes. >2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax. >3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance. >4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels. >5. Centralisation of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly. >6. Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State. >7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan. >8. Equal liability of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture. >9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country. >10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children’s factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, &c, &c.
Jaxon Miller
Communism is simply stirring up ressentment against the ruling class for a power grab by another would be ruling class. It's tenets are so deluded and forced that, when succesful, the countries self destruct within decades.
