Explain to me how marriage isn't a scam

Since I'm single, all I need in life is a one bedroom apartment with a decent kitchen.

This runs me $800 USD in my city
Groceries are $400 per month, car expenses are $400, other shit is $400

I can survive and be comfortable on 24k net, which is approximately 35k gross. I gross 110k a year and work 35 hours a week as a programmer with all the time in the world for my relatively cheap hobbies.

Explain to me why I should ever get married or have children. To me, it just seems like a massive massive scam that doesn't benefit me in any way.

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Why don’t you focus on turning 21.

a life without challenge is boring as hell unless you're a beta

>hurr durr you don't want kids so you must be underage
Not an argument

>the only way to challenge yourself is by wifing up a roastie
My job is challenging and engaging enough.

Unless you truly love a woman and think she wouldn't leave you for some petty reason I would say don't get married especially the way the courts are stacked towards women with custody and alimony. Most women don't have loyalty like they used to, they are raised that it is ok to leave men when they are unhappy and not raised to work on relationships. You could find a unicorn and make it work but the relationship between the sexes is pretty fucked atm in the US.

Donald Trump got divorced twice, still became a billionaire and President.

Arnold Schwarzenegger knocked up his maid, his divorce hardly seems to have scratched him, and he gets along well with his illegitimate son.

It seems to me like divorce only seriously ruins beta males.

Roastbeefs are begging for your cheddar

The fact that you don’t think it’s a good argument definitely demonstrates that you are underaged. Some parts of the human experience are unquantifiable by a dollar value or a measurement of time.

There is literally only two choices, either you are underaged b& or a fully grown adult who suffers from legitimate autism and doesn’t understand anything that isn’t defined by measurable increments

>t. gramps, the other extreme

>hurr some parts of le human experience are unquantifiable by a dollar value
Fuck off normalshit, go back to facebook.

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If you marry a woman who is not a virgin, you are marrying a used condom.

You’re a child cunt I have been here since 2004. You are a product of the habbo raids we never should’ve done, and which you don’t even know anything about.

>pretending to be an oldfag by mentioning the habbo raids you read about on ED
pathetic

Marriage isn't for everyone. Most men wouldn't even benefit from it.

First, if you don't want kids, forget about it. Marriage is the legal framework for which you build a family. Don't marry a "career" woman, marry a woman who wants a family and understands the importance in division of labor. The ideal state is that your wife takes care of your estate while you are out expanding it. You could argue that all of a wifes services could be outsourced and that is true, however that is orders of magnitude more expensive.

Procreation is the whole goal of your existence even if you might not like it. Marriage is a legal construct originally intended to help you raise said offspring. The most obvious benefit left is taxes if you don't earn equally well.

The modern problem is that the possibility to scam the man got increasingly more fostered by legislation. Furthermore our media&culture fosters this behavior also far stronger nowadays.

The real scammer however isn't the women. It's the system that wishes to exploit you for your labor force while forcing you into avoiding your sole biological purpose and then replace you with some immigration you pay to educate with your labor over taxes. Essentially the system learned to perfect fleecing you.

Yes, there are tax benefits. I am married to a very smart and successful girl that I love very much who supports me emotionally and is unironically my best friend. Combining our income, we’ve purchased a nice home that she has made a hobby of decorating and such. There are many benefits to being married and I am much happier married than I was when I was a lonely, misanthropic 19 year old faggot like you. So, again, I’ll say, focus on turning 21. Believe it or not, your worldview will change dramatically by the time you’re 30 and you eventually stop thinking you know everything and realize you were an ignorant, arrogant faggot with no sense of how to live a fulfilling life.

>Don't marry a "career" woman, marry a woman who wants a family and understands the importance in division of labor.
Marry a unicorn. Great solution.

You guys need to get out more. I met my wife at a gas station. You never know where you are going to meet someone that is surprisingly special that doesn’t fall into your fatalistic view of women.

You are a fucking normie. You wife will begin to feel trapped in that house will her friends are out adventuring and riding exotic cock. Then she will resent you for trapping her, then she will gtfo and leave you high and dry. It's always great the first few years. Lovey dovey 'we're not like all those other couples who fight and get divorced' then it starts to fall apart because you will never be able to give her what she has been programmed to believe she deserves.

>all these assumptions
I'm 28 dude, stop projecting your 19-year-old self onto me.

>accuses us of being fatalistic
>half of marriages end in divorce
50/50 crap shoot, roulette wheel spin that maybe she'll stat with me through thick and thin. Fuck that shit.

>it worked out for me lol
could've saved yourself writing a textwall with no argument beyond that

Congrats, you are a very well programmed NPC.

No OP, there aren't.

Look at the fucking statistics 75% of marriages end in divorce. If I told you I kill 3 out of 4 patients I doubt you'd lie down at the surgery table for an operation.

Because that's what happens in marriage... you're gonna lose half or all your shit.

Don't mind that woman are responsible for 80% of all divorces. 80 fucking percent. Your decision will weigh almost nothing and you'll be at her mercy every night you go to bed fearing that she might wake up with her horns up and her head upside down and ruin your life just to brag to her friends or because that's what she feels like doing that particular day.

Plus, remember females are most attractive starting at 16 and steadily depreciating until their value tanks in their thirties with sire feet, back pain and sagging boobs, treating you like trash till that point and parasitically clinging to you as a beta provider after she realizes she's no longer worth what she once was...

while YOU, on the other hand, start in the gutter and have to work your way up rising in value till your fourties where your status, stability and resources at that point attracts the most females you will ever be able to in your life.

In short:

Smart people are not married and married people are not smart.

You all are unironically never going to makeit. Jesus fucking Christ.

>signs jew, government document
>becomes married
>good goy
accuses non-married person of being an npc

vk

I am bringing life into this world. You are contributing to the extinction of your race.

Here’s another reason for you faggots: you can marry a lot more money in five minutes than you can make in a lifetime. You don’t have to marry a broke, useless piece of shit that offers you nothing but a fuck hole.

>I am bringing life into this world
fuck this world, it's not worth a squirt of piss.

In ancient times marriage was considered a way to let your carnal urges out in a safe-sure way, since they all knew love just was possible towards god and the relationship with him, in Paul letters you can see that he recommends to marriage if you can't control yourself, but don't get into marriage if you can handle it. Also it was a way to let women be safe in their future by creating a relationship with a stable male

Nowadays it's totally perverted from the original meaning, so marriage is effectively a way to scam yourself, for god it's better to do good deeds than to just have children, if you want children make sure to find a good woman and that's hard as fuck

You're talking about 2 guys that have more money than they could ever spend you faggot. Half of fuck you money is still a lot of money. If you're an average guy making $150k/yr and you lose half now you're living as a poorfag in perpetuity. Marriage is for cucks. If you want to have a kid go for it you don't need to be married. Woman have careers now, you don't need to sign a contract with the government giving them half your shit like a retard.

There are ways arround your problems desu.
If you want a beautifull wife in old age just check her mother, if she's a milf you're save.
If you want to marry and keep your money there are financial constructs to hide your cash. Personally i don't give a shit about marriage but getting officially married if you find a valuable women that cares about it while keeping your cash save ain't such a bad idea.

you will never satisfy her, you will always be looked at as a leech and a bum by her and her family. you will look like a gold digger. Trust me, this comes from experience.

Based and redpilled

i wanted to marry my oneitis i talked to online for 5 years, but i found out she had a penis. i wish i was larping

Nice projection

tell me how I'm wrong, generally speaking. present to me a situation in which a wealthy woman and a poor man get together and the man doesn't look like a leech. And don't reference a movie.

Biggest scam of marriage is nature
The only thing compelling you ever to be with a woman is your penis nagging you 24 7. So after sex/jerking off women arent needed. Just have a couple girls you dump your cum in and do whatever you want.

Take the colonizer-pill. Travel around the world and knock up ethnic women with white babies.

>Don't mind that woman are responsible for 80% of all divorces.

Ok compelling argument if you can provide a good source for this stat.

>I am bringing life into this world
NPC tier thinking

I've seen both sides of it. I know friends who got married and saw it totally fall apart with each one. One dude has been married twice, has got kids via both ex's and is on girl no 3 now. He's only 35. To be fair all of them jumped into it way to quick at first. All were married by age 23.

Me, I saw what my friends went through; said fuck that. I took my time, didn't really consider the whole marriage deal till I hit 30. By the time I hit 32 I finally got with this girl who I got to know well. We dated for a few yrs. Finally married last year. Been swell ever since. I let her move in about a year before we got married. So the actual marriage ceremony was no big thing. I'm 35 now. We both agreed on things before we married. Talking is big. Couples who don't talk are half doomed already.

sounds good, youngin. only problem is, lonely becomes a real factor as you get older. pump and dumps don't take care of loneliness. I'm single, 46, divorced twice. I'm happily single, for the most part. Finally clawed my way back from financial destitution after the last wife wiped me out. I'm good looking, smart, funny, blah blah blah, fuck bitches, whatever. But having an empty house to come home to every night is no prize, I'll tell you that.

It's common knowledge, brainlet. psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-new-resilience/201508/women-initiate-divorce-much-more-men-heres-why

"The study, based on a survey of over 2000 heterosexual couples, found that women initiated nearly 70% of all divorces. "

she took you to the cleaners?

damn

>married for a year
>thinks he's different
>presents his marriage as an example of one that's worked
>a year
fuck off

No it isn’t, and your source is extremely questionable, but I am willing to explore this with more research of my own

get a dog

>that reading comprehension
kys

Child support and lawyers plus court costs will eat you alive. Plus normally the wife get's half of whatever you earn or buy during the marriage. The key word is "during". Shit you had before the marriage is off limits which if your young at the time ain't much.

You're a fucking loser, jesus christ. Stop being dependent on some chick that will eventually divorce you for your money (which has happened to you twice) and doesn't even like you for you to feel comfortable just being you in the present moment. Holy shit

Fuckin a right she did. My first divorce happened when I was 27. I didn't have anything for her to take. My second marriage we accrued a lot of assets, assets I earned. Like a house(which I made all the payments on,) cars(which I paid for,) investment portfolio and cash in bank. It was a hotly contested divorce. I would go into more details but not going to. It was fucking ugly. It made the local newspaper here.

Without allowing a woman to destroy your life, it's impossible to be a real man. Man up and have some kids for the state to brainwash and for the woman to use against you before and after the divorce.

Besides, I need beta providers to take financial care of my breeding vessels. Come on, be a real man.

damn. i don't know if that happens here in Europe or not. probably.
what if you had money on crypto that your wife doesn't know?

wtf. everyone knows that women initiate the bulk of divorces. have you been living under a rock for the past 40 years? probably just your moms basement.

If lonely you mean you miss the family life, you will still miss if you have a marriage with children and wife, there is nothing that can make you get the feeling of having your mother and father in house when you are young, it's gone unless you go to the religion route

If lonely you mean you miss a girl, then buy hookers and calm your flesh, but you will still feel the desire just a few hours after, you just can't fulfill desire by giving into desire, it's like fighting an addiction, the mind will seek any kind of bullshit to make you give in and the only thing that you can do to avoid falling in is having faith and shutting your mind off

I have a dog and a cat. They do keep me company. But they can't laugh with me when I'm watching a funny movie or cook dinner with me or tell me they love me.

>It made the local newspaper here.
oh shit

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>Like a house(which I made all the payments on,) cars(which I paid for,) investment portfolio and cash in bank.
glad you survived
you should write a book

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You were married last year. You said it yourself. What do I need to comprehend? That you met her 4 years ago? That's irrelevant. Of course everything is great before marriage. And things will be great for the first 2-3 years of marriage. Then she realizes it's not so fun anymore, it's actually work and she doesn't want to do work, it's not supposed to be work. It's supposed to be a fairy tale cuz that's what the tv shows tell her and she deserves to be happy every minute of everyday. And if she's not happy, it's because of you and because you're not right for her. You naive, stupid, married motherfucker.

So far it's working but you know the saying "hope for the best but plan for the worst?" Well I planned shit out in case of divorce. I love my wife, I didn't just marry her after 6 months or whatever and pull some quickie marriage thing. But before we married I took steps. Half my net worth is hidden away. No paper trail leads to it. This is legal; during the divorce any assets you both earn/buy while your married is fair game. Anything you had before you married is not. Plus there is no paper trail for any lawyer to find. So unless I tell my wife about the hidden nest egg it'll remain hidden just in case.

you got the wrong dude

Easy there. I never said I wanted to be married. I simply said that loneliness becomes a factor as you get older. And I assure you, it does. A dog doesn't fix that, regardless of what your mgtow forum tells you.

>Half my net worth is hidden away. No paper trail leads to it.
how? they must have your name in that...
unless..

I felt as though I conquered those feelings after my early 20s. Perhaps living on my own for all my 20s is a factor here? If so, sounds like doing so is as early as possible, while painful at first....pays off in the long-run?

Nah, you don't get it. Likely because you're much younger than me. I'm talking about the loneliness that comes from not having anyone to share life with, share experiences with. That new movie that you love, that album that's been on rotation for 2 weeks, that epiphany you had while taking a walk, a hard day at work and someone to give you a hug. All those little things that you feel, think and experience...but no one to share them with. That's what loneliness is, to me.

Trust me it's hidden. No bank statements of any kind. But it's all legal; I don't cheat the IRS. That'd only cause more headache than I need.

hopefully he read it

kek

>He says on Jow Forums
We not good enough for you, fucker?

I call it my "Emergency Fund" Cute, right?

Yeah...your friends can be all that for you dude lmao

listen here buddy, unless you paid in cash for some assets (house, boat, casino, whatever).
now i got curious how you do it. did you pay in bitcoins/monero to make it untraceable or something?

the only way to be truly untraceable is pay in cash (in a local with no cameras)

>We not good enough for you, fucker?
you are

>human population exploding at an unsustainable rate
>planet will be an unliveable hell hole in the near future
>"I made more humans. I am a hero!"
If you want to contribute to the future of the human race the best thing you can do is kys

>kys
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntary_Human_Extinction_Movement

Unironically read the gospel of john and take the leap of faith

my friends? here's my friends; a sad sack bank teller divorced father of 3, another sad sack electrician divorced father of 3, and a bi-polar father of 2 who's wife calls me once a month to come talk him down from hanging himself. I love my friends, but they got their own shit going on.

The breeding ones are the shitholes who get pumped with help x charity money. Every welloff nation is below sustainable rate and will suicide as a culture.

a leap of faith into what? what are you suggesting fren?

why not adopt a kid or something?
have you thought of that?

this thread is pure gold
gonna save it for future use

>Every welloff nation is below sustainable rate and will suicide as a culture.
not if we keep importing shitskins. all we're doing right now is just funneling the wealth of the world up to the top 5% while the rest of the world's population goes into third world mode.

Ya im not a beta like u. I wont be lonely when im single or lonely anyway.

the thought has crossed my mind, but I have no desire to raise a shitskin baby or some deadbeat's kid.

Based. I did this in 2016.

a leap of faith that there is more going on than just feeling happy, that life is just a test against your soul to see if you can struggle without becoming a cold heart that hates everything and everyone

Online banking. Simple yet effective. I got 4 accounts.

Physical Bank (this is known);
Checking Account
Savings Account

Brokerage Account (Semi known)

Online Bank w/savings account (Hidden)

Once I linked the Online bank w/my Physical bank and transferred the dough I cut the link.
The only little thing I do is mark on my taxes each year any interest income I earn from the online bank account. Such a small little note; with all the other shit on the tax forms it's easy to overlook one little thing or two but it keeps the IRS happy.