Bitcoin maximalists

What do you think about them?

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based and crypto redpilled

Pretty cool guys

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the same as i think of Netscape maximalists

You mean TCP/IP maximalists.

Fucking idiots, ostriches with their heads in the sand, horses with their blinkers on. Those motherfuckers need to understand that we buy alts to get more sats and thus always measure ourselves against BTC anyway. The difference is that we will have MORE than them. They'll get 10x in the next run while we'll get 100x. And they only have themselves to blame.

I'm an ETH maximalist.

Biggest BTC holder.

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you know that what you are describing is btc maximalism right?

In what way sir? We are talking about the lads who will only buy BTC and decry all alts, right? Whereas I'm just noting that BTC leads the market and that most of us sell our alts to BTC before cashing out, so we need to watch our sats.

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I am a Doge maximalist.

Some of them are straightforward and don't see the hassle of getting involved in alts when BTC is already a sure-fire way to succeed
The only ones I don't like are the ones who refuse to acknowledge the good accomplishments of anything else in the space

In every cycle, this is what newbies say and believe. Then comes the bear market, and the bitcoin-destroy-alts phase. But you will learn.
I know this game should come with instructions: accumulate as much btc as you can.

Say what you want about them, but they are fucking rich.

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based and multimillionaires chads

pretty fucking smart actually
>only coin normies have heard of
>only coin whose notation has been added to ascii - emoji character set
>only coin without exit scamming board
>only coin with no corporate offices - literally impossible for (them) to sue, investigate, and their other tricks

honestly, I just talked myself into converting the last of my ETH into BTC since there will never be an ICO again that Americans can participate in, thanks jews.

BASED and redpilled

niggers don't understand that shitcoins are just ponzis to get more btc

Bitcoin maximalists = oldfags that have witnessed multiple shitcoin cycles.
Shitcoin maximalists = late adopter faggot scammers that showed up in 2017.

Don't be patronising. Obviously when BTC dominance is rising I jump back into BTC.
I believe in some alts more than BTC, but I also value money the most, so I'm not gonna hold shit on a downtrend.

They don't deserve any gains. Crypto is about innovation and progress. Hanging onto old tech is exactly what the central banks and oligarchs have been trying to do.

nigger bitcoin has literally the most cutting hedge breakthroughs in all crypto ecosystem, everything you see doing by eth devs is just old bitcoin talk discussions from btc devs that got discarded

Definition of hopium morons. BTC will have a few more enormous cycles but it won't be the future gold.

Lazy bitches that could x50 their capital if they just played alts. But they will make it eventually.

LINK maximalists = future global elite

This

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Lol like what? The lightening network? What a fucking joke.

i have been wanting to do the same but was waiting for eth to reach 0.034 again just keeps dumping though

Yeah, they got discarded because everyone in BTC is a brainlet and tries to resist all change. It won't be long before actual smart people start getting into crypto. You are lucky that at the moment, most people in this space are too stupid to understand smart contracts and decentralized oracles. Financial talking heads will soon be telling everyone how stupid BTC is and how the future of crypto will have nothing to do with it.

Most of the smart people I know bought ETH/LINK. I've met two total normies at bars who started talking about crypto and when I asked what they held, one had litecoin, the other had BTC. Both of these guys seemed completely tech illiterate and it made me bullish as fuck, as the masses still don't understand smart contracts/oracles/defi.

In order to actually make it you can't just ride some millionaires dick and help pump his bags.

>x50
>x100

Lot of these old Bitcoin maximalists don't give a fuck about your ridiculous x100, they already did more by buying BTC early.

- Segwit
- Schnorr
- Lightning
- MAST
- Taproot/Graftroot
- Sidechains
- Liquid
- RSK
- Drivechain
-channel factories
-sharding through sortition chains
-signature aggregation
-utrexo
-dlog contracts
-eltoo

Bitcoin is setting up infrastructure to work without the internet (mesh networks, satellite nodes, etc). It’s going to have all the smart contract, speed and privacy features you need while keeping its ledger honest and decentralized.

people like you don't even derve this knowledge, just go read bitcoin devs newslatter and you will see much more then what i mentioned, bitcoin has literally a breakthrough innovation being proposed every month
every tech eth is implementing is just discarded ideas from btc devs

They believe that normies are never capable of learning about ETH.
The days are already coming within this year, when Ethereum operating service launches will be discussed on CNBC. Not to mention CME futures. After those, CNBC will lag behind and non-stop talk about the recent price rise of this shiny Ethereum crypto.

LN has been already out for 18 months, liquidity is starting to dry, currently on only 900 BTC among the whole network, lmao. If this doesnt improve by years end, people will slowly start calling it dead.

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Ethereum, the network that is slow as shit to the point that any old shitcoin jams it.

daily remainder that eth shills are just desperate that break even on their heavy bags see you at 12 sats on the ratio dude

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thanks for the (you)s

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>Bitcoin is setting up infrastructure to work without the internet (mesh networks, satellite nodes, etc).
please post the proofs
I'm kinda maximalist and would loove to run a mesh nw somehow

blockstream.com/2019/05/11/gotenna-satellite-api-integration/

global-mesh-labs.gitbook.io/lot49/

Even for an "aschtually..." type post it doesn't work. If he's allowed to say 'simple' to omit all the wider events that lead to child porn then heroin is by far better. Pure heroin used sensibly doesn't even hurt the user and can theoretically be ethically sourced. Child porn is harmful for the person engaging with it and literally cannot be made harmlessly.

What a total moron.

requires schnorr tho, but we should get in before end of 2020

vitalik is just a mindless retard scammer/cult leader basedboys just suck his cock and think he is creating better tech, while the real competent cryptographers are all working on bitcoin

REN maximalist checking in

As far as im concerned both will be replaced eventually. Just too slow and the work arounds are awkward additions to the system not built directly in.

I don't pretend to know what will replace them, im just a LINK/BTC holder but still.

cheers

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kill yourself you 2017 latecomer newshit

>he thinks crypto adoption is about tech
This isn't myspace, this is INVENTED MONEY. The chain with the most history, name recognition, and liquidity will attract more people to buy in, which creates a feedback loop. Bitcoin will continue to eat the global monetary supply, and while we will likely still have other cryptos, what the market really wants is one global currency that all humans on earth can measure value against. The entire reason we have a Forex market is because of the inefficiencies created by not having a single global money that can settle payments between countries

It will be quite funny when CNBC's shillers tell everyone how bad bitcoin is. Wouldn't surprise me if by EOY Warren Buffet is shilling ETH and BTC is called a scam by any reputable investor (it is).

I agree that many BTC maximalists just believe normies won't understand Ethereum, but they don't have to. They just need to be told by people way smarter than them that ETH is a great buy.

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people like you don't get what bitcoin is for
bitcoin put safety decentralization and censorship resistance above all, there is literally no project that has innovated in any meaningfull way in the categories i talked above, everybody talks just about txn/sec but if you just wanna be fast as fuck get a mysql server and run a google spreeadsheet on it.
bitcoin is the only network that guarantess censorship resistance and predictable monetary policies, non of your shitcoins will ever be able to top that

also serious investors want invest in vitalik coin, which is just a fiat scam with a centralized board that optimize for value extraction from noobs.
it has 0 predictability in inflation and monetary policies get changed every year

Eth has no strict supply and is controlled by the Ethereum foundations whims. The DAO rollback was the most ridiculous thing ever, it completely ruined Ethereum forever. Just wait until there are real consequences like a drug or child porn dapp built and governments will put pressure on all public Ethereum figures and foundations members to roll back the chain. They've already proven that they can.
Without total guaranteed immutability, crypto is useless

But as all transactions are visible you can control use of the money. Especially as all ports become highly identified exchanges.

or just wait for when vitalik gets kidnapped or just becomes a government asset

BTC will be the victim of its own energy hunger. This won't be sustainable, not at $100k and especially not at $1M.

I do think this will be an issue, it will probably become increasingly illegal to mine and even potentially buy as pressure mounts against it's mining cost.

>The DAO rollback was the most ridiculous thing ever, it completely ruined Ethereum forever.
Dunno mate, remember RaiBlocks (now Nano)? They refused to do a rollback when the only shitty exchange it was traded on got hacked, did it serve them good? Did it gain more trust and respect because they retained "integrity" and "immutability"?

wasabi and hideen scripts through taproot graftrrot solve this problem
just read this and you will get why btc is the best tech

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Smarter than those Blockchain NPCs

Meh it's not that bad when you put it into perspective with (other) data centers. Plus there could be some serious drive for innovation in generating more efficient and green energy.

The only reason the media zoomed in on BTC's power consumption is to rile up an ignorant population and get people's attention so they can sell their clickbait content. But it's not actually as bad as portrayed.

Paying even $50 to do something like register your real estate purchase in an indisputable way is more efficient than paying a guy $5000 to file a document in a drawer which is what we currently do.
Every shitcoin tries to implement a solution to a problem like that but every one of them has the same issue BTC has, it won't scale. Until the core issue is fixed all the shitcoins including ETH are just clowning around, trying out things that won't work until the real issue is fixed.
So far the only idea that actually has a chance is LN. Most that pretend to have the solution like ETH or EOS just gave up on decentralization entirely.
When scaling is solved you can implement all the smart contract functionality and asset handling stuff on BTC with faster more efficient systems than any of the shitcoins and that doesn't mean putting everything on chain like BSV does.

Generalizing. There are some really cool altcoins with economics and usecases that make sense and could really scale in the future to broad and vast markets.

For example, think of the gaming industry. Stuff like RSGP has real world value and it has for a long time now. So much even that there are people that work playing videogames to get this in-game currency. Now imagine that money not being subjected to centralized servers and rules and people being able to transfer their gaming currency freely and free trade based on decentralization and blockchain immutability. I think that is where some serious dough can be made. MMO's hosted on the blockchain could be a big breaktrough especially now at a time where lots of people are looking to monetize the time they put in playing games. And it's all possible. It's absolutely amazing when you think about that, but you couldn't do that with Bitcoin at all. It just doesn't fit into that picture. Because the games need to be hosted on a blockchain without centralization for the economy to work. Else gaming corporations would just impose their own stupid rules and you'd have a sort of shadow economy.

Plz dont talk about an MMO being hosted on a blockchain. You are either a retard or you are making retards seriously misunderstand blockchains.
Some specific things about an MMO can be handled on a blockchain. The game itself not. Seriously, retards will not understand this by themselves.

>mr smarty pants

reminder that this person is only "famous" for being a self-admittedly terrible trader.

They are the boomers of crypto. Close minded, tribalistic and paranoid. They hold onto the belief bitcoin can solve every use case in crypto without any substantial argument.

BTC maximalists are a cult. Just consider carnivory dinners they have, I mean wtf, all you need to know about what lunatics they are. Plus, they’re just protecting their investment. There is a tsunami of way better DLTs coming up than BTC. BTC will remain #1 for few years max because of momentum and ignorance, then it’s over.

All that's needed to change my mind is one shitcoin that works. Do you know something I don't? Is there a hidden gem somewhere that actually works and nobody noticed?

So blockchain will never have any use beyond Bitcoin then? Yep, that's totally realistic.

both bch and bsv?

Public perception will have to mature significantly before adoption of many new alt tech will be feasible. So many alts that were developed back in 2015-17 have not adapted to new advancements in blockchain tech and solidified themselves in 2019 as PND scams for gullible but well meaning enthusiasts

McNormack

Based

It’s pretty simple. Big money only wants to deal with 12+ digit markets.

Don't work. If you're willing to settle for a platform that doesn't work doge is better.

based

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you don't understand any of the terms you posted, because you posted the exact same thing under several names.
Btc is hopelessly behind. There are standards getting set among modern blockchains, eg. everyone wants to use the exact same BLS signature scheme to have compatibility. Bitcoin isn't even in the discussion.
Bitcoin has zero hope of ever getting trustless sidechains.
>Segwit
That's not an innovation, that's a hack to implement changes without a hard fork.
>Schnorr
As the name implies, it's a signature scheme invented by a guy named Schnorr. It's in fact older than ECDSA, but couldn't be used for years because of patents. Not an innovation by bitcoin devs.
>Lightning
failed idea, the guy that invented it works on plasma now.
>MAST
>-dlog contracts
Same thing. Rejected back in 2011 along with OP_EVAL, can be easily implemented on ethereum, not actually practical.
>Taproot/Graftroot
Another thing that can be already done on ethereum, but needs a fork on bitcoin because of primitive script. Like segwit, only needed because of bitcoin's limitations. Its only actual function on bitcoin would be to make LN channel transactions smaller, but it's marketed as "smart contracts" to brainlets.
>- Sidechains
>- Liquid
>- RSK
>- Drivechain
those are all centralized sidechains.
>-channel factories
Same category as taproof and segwit, a fake innovation only needed to combat bitcoin deficiencies.
>-signature aggregation
Which is already interactively possible, schnorr only makes it easier. BLS signatures allow non-interactive aggregation, but that's happening on ethereum.
>-sharding through sortition chains
I can't find anything about it, but without PoS decentralized sharding is impossible. Must be another centralized solution like rsk.
>-utrexo
A copy of eth2.0 stateless design. It's never going to happen.
>eltoo
Another fake innovation that's only working around the deficiency: bitcoin has no state so it's extremely hard to make anything that needs it.

Hot air.

>without PoS decentralized sharding is impossible
i think so too but pos is a potential death trap that can forever end a chain

BTC is a shitcoin. There's nothing wrong with Bitcoin Maximalism otherwise.

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>a million things
literally the only possible thing is an attempt to fork to a new insecure PoW from an asic PoW.
If a non-asic PoW is attacked the network is finished, it can't be used for anything of value.

absolutely based
t. XTZ maximalist

No you retard there are infinite responses to an attack including adding PoS so it's a hybrid or even just dynamic filters like ddos protection providers use. If you don't mind a central authority like in your example you can just use simple trusted consensus nodes to begin with which are much faster and there's no malicious actors, all the nodes are trusted.

>including adding PoS
>criticizes PoS
>proposed to add PoS to fix PoW

>even just dynamic filters like ddos protection providers use
that doesn't make _any_ sense at all and proves you have zero idea how any of this works.
>If you don't mind a central authority
there's no "central authority", there's one attacker and thousands if not millions of victims. Victims would just switch to a new chain without the attacker.
It's exactly what happened with ethereum classic. You can't force people to stay on one chain.

Only ones with real understanding, continually proven right over time while the shitcoiners keep kidding themselves about flippening and making basic bitch mistakes about what a blockchain is actually good for or about monetary economic stuff.

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PoS may very well be the death of Ethereum.

Few of them will get arrested because of ties with bitifnex.
Most of them will leave CT thereafter.
The rest will delete several posts (McCormcuck already did).

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For every person who 100x, there are 10 who botched it and lost their stack.

You shit on people who bash alts and are smart enough to take the 10x—without realizing that you’re literally gambling.

>It's exactly what happened with ethereum classic
A disaster where the devs ruined the credibility of Ethereum because they lost money to a bug. In a forced fork your system has failed and you're also forced to solve the issue that caused the fork even if by patching it out with something as ugly as adding PoS on top of PoW.