Daily reminder

That having a family is the best investment you can make. Have kids incels

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Your wife looks like she needs my BGC. Once you go froggie, you never go doggie. You dig buddy.

you need money to have a family
we don't even have a place to live

im too ugly

Having a family is high risk high reward.
If the initiators are sub prime, then you can theoretically lose infinite money.

50% chance of divorce where she takes 50% of your shit.

So statistically you're paying about a quarter of your net worth for the whole wife thing.

Its bad financial advice.
The woman and kids bags are heavy and they only get heavier.
Its a shit investment

why would anyone want kids.

t. someone who's going to have a kid in january

I unironically dream about having a little tribe but literally everything in modern society (economic stability, state of women, city life) disincentive you from it.

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Bump for truth.

Work to achieve your goals. When this clown society falls apart, people like you will be the last men left standing.

tfw I unironically want to make it in order to get a traditional 16-17yo wife, have children and be a good father/husband for them.

beautiful 7 year old boy

Teaching him how to play football and soccer

Wake him up in the morning help him get ready for school. He likes bacon for breakfast

He's ALWAYS so happy when he sees me when i pick him up from school

Loves tacos after we get ice cream

This is truly making it.

Having a little boy and teaching him about life and hopefully one day he'll be a great father too thanks to me.

>have kids goyim
>we need those tax shekels
>the welfare state won't make it
>if you don't make more tax-cattle

Just have double the amount for all of us, big (((mature))) OP. I don't get why people like you preach about having a family like your life depends on it. I might want to keep my shekels and blow coke in my 70s, enjoying a proper retirement without wanking off to the thought of pretending to be superior to my shitty neighbours because I did something so easy it's been done for BILLIONS of years (sexual reproduction).

You have your kids, then. I need more wage-slaves to make my shit. And if you have a hot daughter, maybe I'll use my monetary surplus to screw her brains out by the time she turns 18. You're doing G*d's work, OP. kys

>football
>bacon
>ice cream
Sounds like your teaching him how to be a brain-damaged fatass

I kinda feel bad for your parents, but they probably don't give a shit about a waste of oxygen like yourself.

The only way to change it is to breed through.
There's one me, I got two kids. If I can redpill them without coming off like Archie Bunker, then there will be two me's out there. If the do the same we'll be at six etc. It's how we got where we are now, and it's the only way to get back out

That's poignant.
I also have a seven yr old that's really into to tacos too. bacon, but only turkey, and Minecraft not football
Fatherhood is dope

>Sitting alone on his pile of money
>Only time anyone talks to him is because they want some of his money
It's like you want to be Smaug

You seem to have a lot of vested interests in this issue, senpai. It's almost as if you're so hurtful because you're hurt by the truth. My parents loved me way more than you think possible, though, thanks for your concern.
Where was Smaug going to spend his shekels? Dragon hookers? A ton of coke (the equivalent of a gram for humans)? A man-cave with 1000-inch monitors playing Middle-Earth dragon porn and vidya with dragons killing midgets?

There's tons of stuff you can do instead of wasting money and energy on something as proletarian as kids. But, most people don't see it as an issue and many even try to shame the rest to follow their path. If you want to have kids and that's your first priority, odds are you're trailer trash and you're the real problem of humanity. But, hey, someone needs to flip my burgers or swallow my cum for pocket-change. So, yes, proceed to have children. Your sons will be my slaves, your daughters will be my cum recepticles.

I just think it's weird that you respond overly aggressive to people who have a family. You can't really be happy if you have so much anger or hatred in your heart. Nobody is telling you to have kids, relax.

Anger? I'm impressed at the intellectual level of those who are proud of doing something as basic as having a family. You didn't split the atom. You fucked some bitch without a condom. Get off your high horse.

Now, if reading comprehension isn't your cup of tea, let me remind you of your words:
>I kinda feel bad for your parents,
>but they probably don't give a shit about
>a waste of oxygen like yourself
Are these the words of a calm person with no vested interests? I mean, if you're calm and say these words, I should be about ten million times calmer to thank you for your concern about my parents.

However, there's a lingering thought, one that I'm sure is a product of imagination and can't possibly have any grouding to reality: That the one really mad here is you, because I merely expressed that each person makes choices and these choices should be respected. You chose to have a family. I sincerely feel bad about your kid, considering the mentality you expressed here among us. However, I also express hope that your kid will see through the bullshit that you spoon feed it and will repair any damage you're most likely to cause. See, that's the difference: I really think it's sad because I know you're probably ten times worse towards your kid and your wife (until she dumps you and gets your shekels, which you'll deserve no doubt) than you're towards some user on an anonymous image board.

Surely your butthurt is none of your own concern. I'm sure you'll outsource your own issues to your wife and kids, or you've already done that to your siblings. I'm sure they'll have to visit a psychiatrist and pop pills every time they have to confront you. But, that's no concern of yours. You've had a great life, letting others deal with your baggage and coming to brag about the virtues of unprotected sex to strangers over the internet. That SURELY says nothing about your character and that surely makes us jealous of yourself and how much you have everything figured out.

I sincerely thank you for making my points better than I did. I wish your kids to maintain their sanity and your wife to get rid of you and get compensation for having to deal with your bullshit, some of which have been obvious by your comments here.

>Nobody is telling you to have kids, relax.
I am. Have kids you parasitic waste of space.
>lolol I exploit u without contributing
>stop being butthurt
No. You will be first against the wall.

lol @ that butthurt breeder cuck.

>Op

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You want to kill me, but you want me to have kids? Wow, you're such a saint. Solid reasoning right there. Please, keep talking and confirming every iota of what I've just said about your kind.

All you hedonist scum will be shot, it's how history always plays out. I'm not talking about Minecraft.
>you should allow parasites to eat everything because uh morality or something (not that I believe in any of that)

>seething breedercuck with his murder fantasy
why you so mad? Is it because you have to wagecuck tomorrow to feed your useless family?

No, he was very clear: He's mad because he knows some people won't have to waste their lives like he does. Even if we do, we'll be actual men who don't talk and just walk. I'm seriously sad about that guy's children. Hopefully, child protection services will take care of the kids before he can turn them into the abominations his own parents turned him into. Otherwise, I'm afraid his kids will abuse drugs or need to pop pills to tolerate his bullshit, which is apparent even here on an anonymous image board.

These cucks come here thinking they'll prove they're big men and all they do is shoot themselves in the foot. I'd suggest that they kill themselves, but that requires a sense of honour that they don't and never will have. It doesn't matter. As I said, their daughters will serve our cocks and their sons will wagecuck until they die at our service. True proletarians.

Point is, there’s an intergenerational pact that you’re breaking. Everyone that came before you was successful in producing offspring inspire of all trouble they have, disease, famine, war, wild animals you name it. Every one of them beat all the odds and had children, leading to your existence. Unless you consider yourself the pinnacle of human existence - perfection incarnate - you have the moral obligation to keep the continuum, or the efforts of EVERYBODY that got you here would’ve been in vain.
If you can’t understand that then I’m sorry for those that came before you but maybe is for the best that you’re pulling yourself out of the gene pool

>why you so mad?
The only thing I care about is the survival and prosperity of humanity. The brainwashing you're a victim of and are regurgitating now is the biggest threat to human existence in history. I'm rich and don't have kids but I'm not spreading anti human propaganda about how that's a good thing.

>He's mad because he knows some people won't have to waste their lives like he does.
So it really is just cope and trying to drag others into the crab bucket?
I noticed this happens a lot nowadays on Jow Forums, every board is plagued by breedercucks who try to shame, lure and deceive others to end up like them.
Its disgusting.

>muh humans survival
Fuck em

Your friend doesn't seem to believe in intergenerational pacts. Not to mention this idea is cringeworthy as fuck and I'm sad about your obsessions which probably make your life unbearable. Most of those desperate to have kids are by no means good enough. Unless you have little history of hereditary diseases, a predisposition for great physique and you're breathtakingly attractive, I don't see why you should feel any pressure to reproduce. Even then, you can simply donate your sperm. Don't worry, if you're good enough, women will rush to have a chance to give birth to your genetic products.

Dude, just look at their level of intellect. They say you should have kids. Why? Shouldn't they be glad when you say you won't have kids if they hate you? Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying DON'T have kids. I'm saying do what you consider proper for YOURSELF with NO REGARD to the bullshit they spew to manipulate you.

Here you see some sad piece of shit saying that he cares about humanity, has no kids of his own, talks about lining people against walls, accuses normal people who are against manipulating others that they're a threat to humanity and before all that they've said they don't care about morality, WHICH THEY FUCKING PREACH!!

Be sure that all these scumbags should PRAY that we decent people don't have kids. Because if we do, we'll make sure to turn their offspring into the most cruelly-handled slaves in history, just to show them that they should be careful of what they wish.

You seem like a level-headed guy. My advice is that you should do what you consider fitting for your life, your needs and your ambitions. Just make sure you NEVER listen to the manipulative bullshit of such scum.

>Fuck em
You are them you braindead golem. You're so desperate to defend the hedonist brainwashing that you can't even consider the fact that it's all bullshit. None of the assumptions you built your entire world on are even slightly valid. You're a cancer cell propagating the cancer across the world.
>talks about lining people against walls, accuses normal people who are against manipulating others that they're a threat to humanity and before all that they've said they don't care about morality
I would advise you to work on your reading comprehension but I know this is just a dumb game to you and you're not bothered at all with any sort of intellectual honesty.

Tell me, why didn't you have kids? Why are you so devoted to the idea of some strangers around here having kids, when you obviously hate them or wouldn't care about them anyway? Morality is that which must be done. You're preaching a moral position. You can't claim to not have a moral position when you're preaching just that.

My reading comprehension is definitely better than yours, senpai. You shouldn't be the one to talk about intellectual honesty, when your whole schtick was to try to act like some weird kind of an edgelord who acts tough but wants strangers (whom he hates) to have offspring.

I know it's hard for an exceptional character like you to find a fitting sperm recepticle (because that's how you surely see prospective mothers), but please, try it. Who knows, you might find a candidate in your trailer park who will be content to take care of your kids while you desperately smash your face on the keyboard to prove to me that you're leading the good life and how you're setting an example for generations to come.

Children are investments. Spouses are overhead.

>My advice is that you should do what you consider fitting for your life, your needs and your ambitions. Just make sure you NEVER listen to the manipulative bullshit of such scum.
good advice and truly the only way to make it, otherwise you will always get the short end of the stick, I already learned that very early in life.

>Here you see some sad piece of shit saying that he cares about humanity, has no kids of his own, talks about lining people against walls, accuses normal people who are against manipulating others that they're a threat to humanity
its hilarious but these "people" are serious with their retarded worldview, I wish the low IQ masses never discovered Jow Forums.

yes fuck em, fuck you and fuck "humanity". If its so good how come you are not breeding more low IQ retards like yourself hm?
seems like its not as good as you advertise so why are you trying to lure others into that scam?

If you actually interpreted my posts like that you're much more far gone in your cancerous conditioning than I thought. Of course I'm preaching a moral imperative. You read a part of a quote where I'm rewording your arguments as my arguments because it suited you. You interpreted my warning that you will be shot for being a parasite like always in history as hate instead of the warning it is because it suits you. Why am I wasting my time on people I hate?
>why don't you have kids?
Because I was a victim of cancerous propaganda for way too long. I have a large extended family with many kids and their prosperity is the only real source of fulfillment as I get older.

Do whatever you want. If you were actually smart about it you would shut the fuck up about your genius idea of being a parasite so the parasitic roles don't get filled and noticed by the productive people who will be forced to defend themselves.

rekt

Samefagging this hard

See, you're not THAT alone! You can always have some relatives who will tolerate you and act kindly in front of your bullshit just enough so that they can get their hands on the only thing you could ever offer them: Cold shekels. Don't be so sad and resentful. And don't pretend that you not having a family either had something to do with us or was a product of your "ideas". Even the dumbest of bitches could see how you were seriously unhinged and in no way family material.

You were such a poor-poor victim. No agency whatsoever. That's why you want to "save" others (whom you call "cancerous" and hate, no matter how you attempt to damage control). You're such a saint and nobody here understands you and how good you really are and how much you want to help "humanity".

>parasite
So, making your own money, carrying your own weight and just not having kids is considered parasitism? You seem like you don't only lack the reading comprehension, but the vocabulary as well. I am under the impression that this is an angsty teenager at best.

>passive aggressive bitch from earlier
>not addressing half the thread
>shilling for his sad trailer-trash buddy
Oh, yeah, we're samefagging though. It's not as if your dripping insanity is obvious from high orbit. No, it's just the samefagging of some folks who see through your bullshit. Keep thinking that if it helps you sleep tonight.

This is your third failed attempt at modelling me as a person. You aren't interested in the ideas, only in some dumb game like I said before. A battle of egos. The hedonistic ideas you're spreading are cancer that lead to misery and death. You can't really defend them so you try to focus on me instead.
>carrying your own weight
Towards what goal? If your goal is just your own survival without regard for the future after you're gone you aren't carrying any weight. You're just a dying strain on resources that spreads more death with your words and actions.

mixicles solves this entirely get with the program

based

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Father of four.

>Literally no ROI unless your kids become fucking millionaires or something and decide to give you some money
How the fuck is that a good investment? Children are literal fucking resource sinks.

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Failed? You're proving me correct with every sad post of yours. You accuse me of this, that and the other, meanwhile you're the one wanting (and failing) to manipulate others to do your bidding.

>what goal?
Why is this any of your business?
>strain on resources
I see your understanding of economics is as remarkable as your life advice. But, I shouldn't expect too much from trailer trash.

>hurr durr hedonism bad
You've learned one word and now you think you're Jordan Peterson. O tempora, o mores.

>defend them
defend what? Not answering to some self-deluded trailer trash over an anonymous image board over my choices in life? You're either playing an act or you're honestly and unironically that sad of a human waste of space.

I haven't failed one bit from describing exactly what you are. You've proven me right again and again and you double and triple down by keeping this up, hoping to do some sort of failed damage control. You're scum, your family knows you're scum, your neighbours know you're scum and have no doubts that they pray to have the pleasure of seeing your carcass lowered to the grave, before getting whatever shekels you claim to have hoarded over the years.

Of course, I highly doubt you'd have much money and still be alone, resentful and desperately trying to have younger people do something that you couldn't do (have a family). My estimate is that you're a sad little failure. Your character is obviously nothing noteworthy (and that's putting it politely), your looks will probably not be exactly pleasing (a deformed manlet comes in mind). I'd question how you haven't killed yourself, but by the sounds of it I can tell you don't have any self-cosciousness and can't even fathom the possibility of being wrong.

Proven right, again and again. And each post confirms my hypothesis

>15600508
But, see, now you're samefagging, lad. You dare see what's right in front of you, that's samefagging or cancer or something icky. You just need to let these kind individuals dictate your life or you're an evil hedonist no good baddie!

meant that for you, ese

>spend years courting qtpie
>she's infertile

feelsman

That's one big wall of text that boils down to
>You're proving me correct
But not a single objective point has hit home. You can argue about the subjective points like how "pathetic" not wanting everything to die is but none of the measurable assumptions you're making about me are accurate or relevant to any of the points I'm making.

Yeah, thought so. Look, my business here is concluded. I've torn so many holes in you that I could basically use you as a fishing net and bait simultaneously. I'll let the audience judge for themselves, or laugh appropriately at sad exhibits such as you. Your shorter and shorter replies confirm to me that you're utterly beaten and will need copious amounts of alprazolam to sleep tonight. Thank you for making my day.

These photos wouldn’t even be that far apart. The 1st pic they have a smart phone. At most they are ten years apart. But look 30 years apart. Jeezus bad aging couple.

They look happy though

You know what, you've got me interested. There's something that makes you want to destroy the whole notion of having a family. I kind of get your point of view but you're being very condescending and nasty with your remarks. I'd like to listen to your point of view but you're not helping your cause by name calling and telling men with family's that their daughter will be your personal cum dumpsters.
I have a family, does that mean I'm already brainwashed in your view of the world?

Should I be bitter because I have children?
Ofcourse I will defend having kids, because I chose to do it.
It's the same thing you're doing, you chose not to have kids (with good reason, I wouldn't recommend it to everyone) and you're defending that reason.
It's not them vs. Us , I'm not trying to brainwash people into having kids.
Why are you so convinced that having children is the worst thing ever?

Having kids is not for everyone (especially you) but most men gain alot of satisfaction, a purpose in life and happyness from their offspring.
Please tell me what's so wrong about that?

Oh and please tell me if you're the guy that told me he wanted to skullfuck my kids in another thread a week or so ago.

You continue your bloodline and also when you get old you will still have a life instead of being a lonely fuck. When you get really old you may have a place to stay instead of an old age home with big black abusive care takers to spend your final days

>When you get really old you may have a place to stay instead of an old age home
Nowadays kids put their parents into a nursing home anyway, its too much work cleaning your ass so they pay someone else to do it.
You are fucking deluded if you think your kids won‘t drop you into a nursing home when you get alzheimers, dementia or some other retardation.

yeah this. your kids will look out for you and your gains when you hit old age.

>cope
You didn't address anything and can't even form a coherent argument. It's alright for you to destroy the world because you assume I'm ugly?

just because you hate your parents and would do that to them doesn't mean all people will. love your kids and they will love you back.

More like they will speed up your death to get your money faster.
Nobody wants old people or having to do with them, your grandkids will hate it to help you with the chores and they will celebrate your death.
Thats Humanity for you.

Like it was that easy when you're invisible to 99.999999% of females

how unloved you must feel.

>if you have blind faith it will all be alright
Kek, your kids can be your best friends and still put your old saggy ass into a nursing home.
>they will wagecuck and be busy with their own life and kids
>they won‘t have the time to change your diapers
>they will get tired of you spitting into corners of the room because of your progressing dementia

Thats the cold harsh truth. Don‘t worry you will experience it yourself soon enough.

Clean your room

No, I haven't mentioned wanting to skullfuck your kids. Not a week ago, not ever.

My attitude reflects the attitude towards people skeptical of having a family. If I was addressed in a civil manner, I would respond likewise, as I do right now towards you.

You made a choice to have kids. Your choice, your motives, your ambitions. You know best what is good for you. I'm not here to tell you how to live your life, unlike others in this thread.

I'm not convinced it's the worst thing ever. All I'm saying is that people make choices and these choices must be respected, along with potential consequences. If your kids end up being honest, productive and decent people, I'll certainly appreciate it. If your kids end up causing trouble to me, my people (friends/family) etc, I won't be pleased.

You may or may not be brainwashed, depending on what LEAD you to have a family. Even though, I hate the whole "brainwashing" notion, because even if you are indoctrinated, YOU'RE the one going through the motions of your own volition.

If you think I want to destroy the notion of having a family, you're sorely mistaken and the shills in this thread helped distort this image. You should do what you consider proper for yourself, according to your experiences/ambitions/desires and I respect you for following the latter.

My outlook comes from seeing a lot of hostility towards bachelors (male and female), which is largely unwarranted and comes primarily from people with families or those who are alone and can't wrap their heads around the fact that some people enjoy a life without children.

If you're a decent guy, I doubt your daughter would qualify as my cum dumpster, because I tend to respect people (males and females) with proper upbringing and I wouldn't like seeing such people treated badly.

>blind faith
i love my family. my brothers and sisters love our family. all my extended relatives are rad. idk what your problem is dude.

>goes full reddit with a blog with absolutely no content
I prefer the projection posts. There's something interesting about them at least.

Damn, thanks for that. I get where your coming from, fuck people who pressure you to have kids, because they don't know what they are talking about. I'll be honest, it's fucking hard. It can beat you down, and it WILL beat people down, that's a big reason why people split up.
Having said that, for me (anecdotal I know) it has saved me from being a degenerate drug user.
I was a self destructing nihilist who just needed some fucking responsibility and purpose. Well it got thrown in my lap and it fucking saved me man. I see so many young guys who don't give a fuck about themself and consequently don't give a fuck about anyone/thing around them because they lack the thing I was lucky enough to have, a loving wife and family.
That's the reason I like to defend my position, because I've been through break ups and financial bullshit, but looking back it was worth it.

This could be a valid concern. When people (or even animals) can get hurt in the event of your suicide, it's a motivation to stay alive. I will say that it's not necessarily a solution, but it does help when there are reasons to stick around. No matter what I say for or against the notion of a family, you're the one who knows the details of your choices and your circumstances. I make no claim to know an answer to your own life above your own experiences, unlike certain sad pieces of shit around here who accuse people they know little about of being hedonistic and cancerous (which is probably telling a lot about their own lives and why they ended up spewing hate from trailer parks).

Having kids should be a tough choice, not one to make easily, because it is a commitment. A commitment to stay alive and help that little guy or girl for more than a decade as they grow up. You'll deal with a fair amount of stress and you won't find it as easy to give the middle finger to abusive employers if you're worried about what will happen to your family while you're unemployed. You also cannot know for sure if the results will be desirable, if your kids won't hate you or resent you in any way for your shortcomings. In any case, your choice and even your mistakes will contribute in your children's lives. Much like many choices, wrong or right, have lead you to your wife. You cannot exactly just blame yourself for your mistakes, when they also lead you to some good stuff.

Be true to your values, don't allow sad fucks to manipulate you, do what you consider proper and time will tell if you were right. Same applies to all of us.

Never had a woman acknowledge my existence
How the fuck am I supposed to get married faggot

Workout
Become semi chad but with the ability to self reflect and be semi intellectual
Pick up the 6/7/8s who don't have daddy issues and are relatively "normal" 3 out of 4 weeks. Easy

pretty sure those are the parents of one of the kids on the left, I saw this on 9gag 7 years ago

I am fit. Ugly, short and going bald. There’s no hope for me user. Otherwise I am willing to impregnate whoever as long as she’s not degenerate

yeah, nah, i've seen enough miserable parents in my lifetime to know having kids aint gonna fix anything

Big gay cock? :^)

Having kids is a way for the mother to stay busy and happy at home rather than going to work and flirting with Fabio, or sitting on a couch browsing tinder. The problem is that with families with fewer kids, almost all of them are out of the house the moment mom hits menopause. Plus, there's no incentive to stay together if you don't genuinely believe that it's a life long commitment before God. You may think I'm making all this up, but my family is riddled with divorce already going back to my grandparents.

Jews promoted contraception and porn you retard. You're the dumb goy

so much venom in one single little person
holy shit
there are people like you
they really exist
no soul
do something about yourself before you die from a heart attack or kill someone