New Craig Kino

>bitcoinblocks.live/
2 per second. and thats with weathersv and all their shitty apps spamming the chain. nobody uses this shitcoin except q boomer and redditors

2000 currently
then we're going on our way to millions per second next year after genesis upgrade

so wait some faggot uploaded this to the BSV spamchain and now everyone can download it for free? brb Ima write a script to download this over adn over again effectively bankrupting the BSV mining industry.

>Ima write a script to download this over adn over again effectively bankrupting the BSV mining industry

Attached: 59b3eb023a198.jpg (750x751, 181K)

Im legit retarded but on streamanity you have to pay to watch it. so how can I download it for free from the spamchain? legit looking for answers here pls no bully

someone paid to encode the data on the blockchain it is now there forever, freely accessible

but arent miners providing the bandwidth? sombeodys gotta pay for this shit to be hosted no?

streamanity is youtube with payments direct to creators.
it doesn't store videos on chain (not yet anyway)

this lmfao
these bsv shills are sub 80 iQ, all of them

>sombeodys gotta pay for this shit to be hosted no?
You are absolutely correct, and even BSV people fail to understand this (with the exception of Craig and nChain). In the future you cannot expect miners to serve you for free. Why the hell should they? There is no law saying they have to. They can even prune the chain if they want to and there is nothing you can do about it. Pruning is explained in the White Paper ffs. All you need to mine new blocks is the previous block hash and the utxo. People are stupid and think that by uploading shit to the chain they have paid for storage and free access for all time. They will be shocked when the truth hits them.

It's not necessarily miners, with scale there will be businesses that service data off the blockchain for a fee. At the moment this type of data is being serviced off the protocol layers on top of bitcoin you see in the bottom of this image

doesnt really sound immutable or censorship proof to me desu senpai

btw I tried asking this on their subplebbit but they are too busy jerking each other off over qanon and bch social media bullshit. if miners can prune the blockchain than whats the point of this entire thing, theyre always marketing it as censorship resistant and what not. but miners can simply be forced to delete content through court orders no? I cant find any info on how this is supposed to work and most BSVers dont really understand their own project unfortunately.

>doesnt really sound immutable
It is immutable in that you can't change it. You can delete it yes, but not change it.

>or censorship proof
It isn't censorship proof. People are blinded by ideology and it keeps them from understanding bitcoin in the real world.

>but miners can simply be forced to delete content through court orders no?
Yes, no doubt. Government still as monopoly on force/violence. Nothing is changed there. What is filtered will change from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. In Saudi they might filter porn, in germany they might filter nationalists.

>I cant find any info on how this is supposed to work
The only place to find real info on Bitcoin is from Satoshi himself. Yes that is Craig, no I'm no pajeet.
craigwright.net/

>most BSVers dont really understand their own project
So true and it is so tiresome. It is a little bit better in the bsv camp than bch and btc, but not much

>It is a little bit better in the bsv camp
nah most sv tards are blithering retards and there are a few vengeful ex-btc maxis who are butthurt about adoption being slow and limited.

it always comes back to paying for previously free (and better performing) services with sv. pay to post, pay to send an email, pay to view a webpage, pay to download a file, pay to click with your mouse! who the fuck needs that? especially with 10 minute block times. wait 10 minutes to save your spreadsheet and pay for the privilege! retards...

>nah most sv tards are blithering retards and there are a few vengeful ex-btc maxis who are butthurt about adoption being slow and limited.
Agreed. I'm not a pshycologists, but it's as though they have resentment and ptsd from the forks

>it always comes back to paying for previously free
If you think anything online is free, you are not even part of the grown-up discussion. You have the narrow world view of a child. I will not respond to anymore of your posts

>I cant find any info on how this is supposed to work
Here's three articles that touch on this. He probably has a lot more on it, but I just browsed the 10 first pages of his blog

craigwright.net/blog/bitcoin-blockchain-tech/reversing-illicit-transactions-on-bitcoin-is-simple/
craigwright.net/blog/bitcoin-blockchain-tech/btc-and-censorship/
craigwright.net/blog/bitcoin-blockchain-tech/myths-of-permission-less/

thanks user appreciate it. Im actually invested in BSV I think its an interesting project. but most BSVers are so goddamn stupid I just end up fudding it most of the time because a real discussion is mostly pointless lol. I only understand half of what this autist craig talks about but I will try and read his articles. wish somebody could break all this shit down in easily digestable terms for normal people.

>If you think anything online is free
i pay for my internet and that's it. no other online service gets my money. don't give out personal data, regularly clear browsing history disable all ads scripts and tracking. yeah it's free.

Transactions on BSV are instant, retard.

People always seem to ask how they can profit from Clown World.

Here is a legit case. Invest in BSV, it is suppressed and extremely undervalued only due to an irrational market and incessant propaganda. If you want to legit get rich of CLOWN WORLD, here is your chance.

Attached: BSV_killer_app.jpg (1000x311, 33K)

>It is immutable in that you can't change it. You can delete it yes, but not change it.

Dude just no. Shows how much you understand. You can NOT delete anything from the blockchain. You can only have certain miners or apps preventing you from seeing it. It is however still on the chain, forever.

Attached: CSW_illicit_material_blockchain.jpg (780x561, 104K)

dude it literally says in your pic that content can be pruned

this is why its so frustrating trying to talk about BSV. its a bunch of dunning kruger plebs swinging their dicks around.

You don't understand what pruned means in this context. It means miners not serving it due to a court order, via double hash. You are too stupid if you think you can delete data from the blockchain.

no youre wrong. filtering means it will not be served by miners. pruning means it will be pruned from the blockchain. as in deleted. why is it always guys like going around saying "Hurr durr you no unduhstand" when you have no clue what youre talking about

lmao please elucidate this process of deleting data from the blockchain, I'd like to know exactly how a brainlet thinks.

by miner consensus which can be ordered by courts. craig himself literally talks about this on podcast interviews

Attached: brainlet.jpg (680x418, 35K)

Changing IPs i see.

Attached: BSVSHILL.jpg (1186x407, 107K)

>I just end up fudding it most of the time because a real discussion is mostly pointless lol
Glad I'm not the only creg poster. I have a feeling most bsv fudders are just bored bsv "investors".

>You can NOT delete anything from the blockchain
We are both right. You cannot prune an unspent TX, but a spent TX can be pruned. It has it's own chapter in the WP. As you say, unprunable data that is deemed illicit can be filtered as I too mentioned in this post That said, I doubt anything will ever be deleted as miners will see a profit opportunity in serving old data against a fee

MINER CONSENSUS lmao, as if you can simply remove an immutable chain of digital signatures. You literally break the system if you delete records. It can not be done without re-ordering the entire chain.

Read again:

THE BLOCKCHAIN IS IMMUTABLE, BUT WITH A DOUBLE HASH, THE REQUEST FOR A RECORD CAN BE RESTRICTED AND LOGGED

This is what pruning means. It's not deleted. Try to learn how blockchains work idiot, and also look up what immutability means. It will be there FOREVER, but courts can order miners not to serve it, effectively pruning it from view.

>It can not be done without re-ordering the entire chain.
oh yeah like reorgs have never happened on BSV before..
what you are talking about is filtering with doublehash craig clear talks about deleting illicit content from the chain that can be done by court order. it is literally stated in the text you posted here

over a thousand views in a day?! that's a lot for crypto.

Attached: Abraham Lincoln 9feb1864.jpg (5895x6998, 2.24M)

You are simply misunderstanding how Craig used the word "prune". If he meant delete, he would say delete. He knows that data can not be deleted that's why he built the fucking system. There will always be a record of the transaction made. You can force miners to make new transactions and reverse payments if enough jurisdictions agree to force miners to do this through legal process, but no records are ever deleted.

>Just reorg the entire chain lmao
Sorry you are too dumb to be discussing blockchains.

Attached: 1562434549989.jpg (545x478, 39K)

Attached: who would win.png (505x305, 118K)

How many BSV have you got now?? There is one user with 800+

not an argument user. craig keeps going on and on about liberty reverse and how it was more decentralized than any crypto will ever be and still got shut down by a concerted global campaign from law enforcement. the same could be done to force a miner consensus and reorg the chain especially since the number of miners will be rather small. what you are saying is it would basically be cool for miners to host cheese pizza as long as its not served to the users which is factually wrong.

>The market is perfectly efficient and not a lagging indicator of actual value
>AMZN should have had a trillion dollar market cap in 2000 because clearly the market never undervalues assets short term

>he same could be done to force a miner consensus and reorg the chain especially since the number of miners will be rather small.

I wonder if petabyte size blockchain has anything to do with that.

>not an argument user. craig keeps going on and on about liberty reverse and how it was more decentralized than any crypto will ever be and still got shut down by a concerted global campaign from law enforcement.

Yes you can shut down miners, that is obvious. An actual person is operating them, they have a physical address, they can be court ordered or have FBI knocking. Equipment can be seized and so on. It's besides the point.

You still can't delete data from the blockchain.

>it would basically be cool for miners to host cheese pizza as long as its not served to the users which is factually wrong.

This is exactly how it is going to work. If you serve illegal content as a miner, you can/will be court ordered to stop serving it. It can not ever be deleted from the actual chain. Blockchain 101.

Look up safe harbor laws.

Blockchain is IMMUTABLE. You never read a single article from Craig, that much is obvious.

I'll try to put it in a different way:
All you need to validly mine blocks is the utxo set and the previous block hash. If you don't need spent TXs to mine a block, that means they can be deleted (prune = remove = delete).

You would benefit from reading section 7 in the whitepaper if you want to understand this. I have attached it with the picture and marked the specific part mentioning pruning, or "discarding" as is the word Craig used

WP link:
bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
I'll try to put a different way:
All you need to validly mine blocks is the utxo set and the previous block hash. If you don't need spent TXs to mine a block, that means they can be deleted (prune = remove = delete).

You would benefit from reading section 7 in the whitepaper if you want to understand this. I have attached it with this picture and marked the specific part mentioning pruning or "discarding" as is the word Craig used

WP link:
bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf

Attached: Capture.jpg (1004x769, 140K)

>safe harbor laws
user safe harbor laws dont allow servers to host illegal content thats just nonsense. under DMCA online service providers cant be held liable for what their users do but they still have to REMOVE illicit content. you think miners would be allowed to host cheese pizza in a western country as long as users cant access it? it is absolutely illegal to possess certain materials.

>You still can't delete data from the blockchain.
you can absolutely force a reorg if the political will is there, the number of global nodes will always be rather law, much lower than liberty reserve. I mean craig goes on and on about this shit...

>you can absolutely force a reorg if the political will is there
Nope. You would have to force every single miner in hundreds of different jurisdictions to change the entire blockchain multiple times a month because someone uploaded a bad picture. There would be no point to having a blockchain at all if it could just be restructured due to political whims.

The content will never be deleted, in fact it is technically impossible to do it once network is a certain size. It will only be restricted. Immutable records is the entire point of Bitcoin.

>You don’t delete a record, you record a transaction saying why and how the record has been updated. It is nothing new in accounting. And it is something that is easily promulgated through courts and can be enforced by governments.

- Craig

Please don't play this cheap out of context game. I told you spent transactions can be deleted and it clearly says so in the Whitepaper.
The quote has nothing to do with that. What creg is talking about there is how you can "reverse" a transaction. As he you know bitcoin is immutable so you can't change a transaction. You make a new transaction with the reverse value (1-1=0).

Those are two different things. You cant just say miners NEED to keep all data to mine new block when it clearly is not the case. It says so in the WP. Craig says it. Shadders, the main bsv dev says it. And then you have the fact that there exist miners today mining with pruned chains.

Again, read the whitepaper. It is pointless exercise to teach others about Bitcoin when you don't fully understand how it works.

I guess I am confusing your argument with the other guy, since I am basically having two different arguments at a time.

I do however concede that you are correct that superfluous data in a transaction can removed, like OP_RETURN data, but the base transaction itself never can be deleted from the chain, by nonsense such as court ordered deep chain reorgs. You can only create a new entry reversing the transaction, but the log for both will be saved forever, immutably.

The funniest part of all this is that Bitcoin was meant to be a cash system, not a data storage chain and he stated that clearly to Hal Finney in the Bitcoin forums. BCH is Bitcoin, BSV is a data storage chain.

You realize that BSV is both right? Infinitely more use cases.

Attached: Satoshi_serverfarms.png (1691x755, 111K)

Satoshi said Bitcoin, which is his creation, is only a cash system and not meant for storing data that is not cash transactions. It doesn't matter if you think you have a better idea.

False. He never said ONLY a cash system. Bitcoin was designed to monetize all information.

>The design supports A TREMENDOUS VARIETY OF POSSIBLE TRANSACTION TYPES that I designed years ago. Escrow transactions, bonded contracts, third party arbitration, multi-party signature, etc. If Bitcoin catches on in a big way, these are things we'll want to explore in the future, but they all had to be designed at the beginning to make sure they would be possible later.

He literally designed Bitcoin basically as a scripting language to not limit the possibilities of what you can do with a an immutable monetized ledger. Payment system was simply the first application, many more are possible with the original protocol.

Besides, BSV is the protocol out of all the versions, closest to the white paper. Whatever Satoshi intended Bitcoin to be, is what Bitcoin SV is.

Attached: protocol_set_in_stone_satoshi.jpg (2165x1129, 676K)

Sorry, but I don't have time to give you a lengthy answer, but I mostly agree with you. I agree that government can order filtering, not deleting, in a specific jurisdiction. Actually altering the chain itself with a reorg is as you say nonsense. It would require most countries to agree to enforce a fork. Such world wide consensus is not likely at all. In most jurisdictions it would also be illegal.

Have a great weekend folks, and may you all be blessed by the Great Vishnu living in the Blockchain. STIFF

Attached: 1554213425902.jpg (570x483, 528K)

Those are all types of financial/cash transactions, dipshit. You clowns make statements then strive to find confirmation after the fact. You probably don't comprehend what he's getting at here, do you?

All transactions on the BSV network is financial transactions dipshit. You pay for them.

What you don't get is that Bitcoin as a protocol was designed to allow for much more than simple payments from the beginning. Microtransactions were envisioned from day 1. And it was designed to end up in large data centers.

It's not paypal 2.0. It's literally the internet of money.

Attached: satoshi_micropayments.png (916x720, 85K)

This one is most kino for sure, there’s actually no point in watching this interview if you’re sub 120 IQ

That pic in no way supports your claim that Satoshi intended it for anything other than a cash system.

greg in denial

Bitcoin is whatever the original protocol allows for.

Attached: Bitcoin_set_in_stone.jpg (960x540, 145K)

umm what is OP_PUSHDATA4?

Nothing any of you says redeems you from your false claims so far. I will not spell this out for you.

no, satoshi never meant for data to go to the blockchain yet he put in an op code to return 4.6GB files to the blockchain. keep coping cuck.

You still don't get it

These cucks only quote or defer to Satoshi whenever they can spin it in a way that is convenient to their narrative. When it comes to what Satoshi said about block limit, governance method, scaling, not changing the protocol and mining and node configuration, data centers, server farms and more they simply ignore it.

Snakes the lot of them.

Attached: ok74kiT.jpg (800x800, 610K)

Reminder that all blockstream shills that sold their souls to jews and central banking will die.
We will put million dollar hits on your heads.
You will pay for your sins.

Attached: benis_bagina.jpg (1024x991, 145K)

>These cucks only quote or defer to Satoshi whenever they can spin it in a way that is convenient to their narrative
Literally what you bsv clowns have been doing this whole time

KYS greg.

Attached: 1527324795566.jpg (647x444, 69K)

had, but opened a leveraged long on huobi and I{m slowly but surely bleeding. If I play this drop right nd buy back in at bottom I might reach 1k.

If this price point stays for another 6 months I might even reach 2k.

10k Bitcoin is my ultimate goal ever since I heard this song way back when:
youtube.com/watch?v=RIsZyg8OXlI

at the fudding anons in ths thread: Stay poor motherfuckers, you can clean Muchael´s and my toilets at the citadel.

Already made it to four-digit master race here. gl, user

Attached: 1558792777694.png (1000x600, 752K)

This isn't a discussion about blocksize, you complete retard

no need to put on hits on their head...the shame and the self hate they will have will make sure they either go coocoo, become homeless or just end it themselves. They deserve everything they´ll receive

It's a discussion about how you ignore what satoshi wrote whenever it doesn't fit the blockstream narrative faggot.

Attached: 1525255859247.jpg (3968x2976, 854K)

close my friend, close. I wish you godspeed. May we one day meet and laugh about all this.

< 2000 on twetch.

Exactly. I hope they live a long time so that the enormity of their moral failure is made crystal clear and I have many opportunities to spit in their faces, metaphorically speaking.
Execution would be too good for them.
See you some day in the citadel.

Attached: 1559840491545.jpg (1200x919, 238K)

someone has to build the citadels... be nice to our future slaves

Attached: 1568610987142.jpg (206x245, 8K)

kek

nodes are the ones who store the data

Craig has 0 commits on BSV code:
github.com/bitcoin-sv/bitcoin-sv
Craig has 0 wins in court
soundcloud.com/alabpodcast/episode-3-faketoshi-the-perfect-client

blockstream does not touch bitcoin code
they develop liquid and LN
you would know this if you actually studied BTC code and saw it's commits/ updates
don't trust me, see it for yourself
github.com/bitcoin/

but chances are, you're not gonna reply to my post

the brain tells the arms what to do
why would we look at that dead shitcoin

why would a private software development company have commits on a public codebase lmao

Blockstream retards are the worst.

Attached: nchain_patents2.png (698x334, 9K)

can’t wait til BTC goes into a free fall and BSV bulls 10x

Attached: E3D8F96A-1EAB-4569-AC7F-4A8757515861.jpg (280x180, 9K)

>extremely undervalued
i would say extremely overvalued but each to their own

soundcloud.com/alabpodcast/episode-3-faketoshi-the-perfect-client
wow. what a total asshole wright is
how can people still invest in this sham?

Is this the correct thread to discover tomorrow’s weather?

Gregposters getting lower energy by the day

Attached: schizogreg.png (493x939, 800K)

github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/graphs/contributors
>number 2 contributor, blockstream founder
You will have the privilege of cleaning the Citadels public toilets with your tongue.

Good for you user. What fucking job do you have that allows you to spend $150k+ on BSV?!

Well done lad, you will be disgustingly rich.

I still can't quite grasp just how monumentally game changing BSV will be.

'Greg' ?
I'm sorry, I don't understand ?
user posted that (hilarious) link:
soundcloud.com/alabpodcast/episode-3-faketoshi-the-perfect-client
detailing what a scammer wright is. But you keep posting stuff about this 'Greg' ? Who is Greg and what does he have to do with this bsv scam and wright stealing stuff from Kleiman ? Greg isn't mentioned in that podcast link btw

Hi Greg :)