"In the filing the Justice Department finally revealed that the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court held no hearings on the Page FISA spy warrants, first issued in 2016 and subsequently renewed three times"
This is bring new meaning to rubber-stamp court. CongressAnon already informed Jow Forums that one judge already confessed. It's going down folks!
“It is disturbing that the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance courts rubber-stamped the Carter Page spy warrants and held not one hearing on these extraordinary requests to spy on the Trump team,”
Rudolph Contreras, one of the first FISC judges to approve of all this, was personal friends with Peter Strzok, according to Strozk-Page text messages. He was also the judge initially assigned to Flynn's case before he was made to recuse himself almost a year ago now
Dylan White
"(DOJ) admitted in a court filing last night that the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court held no hearings on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) spy warrant applications targeting Carter Page, a former Trump campaign part-time advisor who was the subject of four controversial FISA warrants."
How did they get court approval if no Judge held a hearing? Unless....
This blows up the entire investigation wide open. Comey, Lynch, McCabe, Yates, Rice, Strzok and Mueller etc are all operating outside the law without FISC approval.
Is Carter Page in on this or was he used unknowingly?
Matthew Howard
All ended sooner than expected
Lincoln Cox
He played dumb. He was used knowingly. He’s a double agent and is daring Mueler or he media to blow his cover because it would take the whole criminal facade down
Leo Morris
What do you guys think you'll order to eat for when we get to watch their executions by livestream? For me it's a crave case from White Castle.
Nathan Clark
Rudy said he's pretty sure this will rap up on 9/1 and smiled. Dang this is unreal.
Justin Hughes
He acted so odd. Like he wanted to look guilty.
Adrian Garcia
Anyone have a screencap of CongressAnon posts?
Jaxon Flores
Cool got sauce?
Tyler Hughes
How the heck can you indict someone when the court held no hearing for surveillance?
I think he has been dragging this out exactly for this reason. But i think he will try to not use his presidential power to expose it before the midterms. However, if rep lose control of house he will definately declassify all this stuff and ensure a shitstorm that dems cannot coverup with there leaked impeachment and phony investigations they have planned.
Brayden Murphy
>But i think he will try to not use his presidential power to expose it before the midterms Yeah I don't think he needs to or wants to. That could look desperate. He's revoked a few security clearances and declassified a few things, and I think he should continue this to show the consequences to the deep state.
Have to remember a big part of winning is to get republicans to vote, and this spying stuff will do that.
Ever since the nunes memo came out in february I've been telling people, this is worse than watergate and liberals don't seem to care.
Wyatt Rodriguez
Exactly. Libs like to accuse him of being “stupid,” but that’s only because they don’t understand his 4-D chess moves. Their checkers board identifies as a chess board.
Josiah Barnes
>this is worse than watergate and liberals don't seem to care. Of course they don't, they didn't actually care about Watergate either. All they care about is power if they new they could install their global homo marxist regime via open warfare they'd happily go that route instead. They have never cared about this nation or its laws.
Jacob Williams
It's one of the mysteries of a transparent, honest (cough, cough) Department of Justice.
Blake Sanders
FISC needs to be abolished. The court is unconstitutional and violates the 4th amendment.
Everyone did care about watergate and nixon knew he had to resign over it. It was simpler times and people weren't distracted by stormy daniels and 24/7 news.
Connor Hill
Any oldfags that can remember what happened during watergate without the leftist history lense?
Xavier Reed
Carter Page is the CIA / FBI guy they use to obtain the surveillance they need. He is the willing tool for the job. Everyone knew that including the FISC Judge.
The new 'Writs of Assistance' Literally the things that caused Americans to flip out at Britain over. Because the British were writing their own warrants whenever they wanted to make sure that people had all their stamps in order.
Hudson Sanchez
No republicans cares about watergate, democrats cared about getting rid of a republican President.
Carter Long
They use their spy to 'spy' on their spy so they can use that as the surveillance trigger. It is like amateur hour for the deep state now that it is all coming to light.
Watergate is still part of popular culture, there was even a movie on it they made us watch in middle school.
Ayden Anderson
according to negative comments on the Judicial Watch tweet. ' that is they way it always happens, no hearings are ever held' Apparently JW is accused of just trying to make it into a big thing, but when we know the players involved, Strzok, Page and the Judge all being in on it, kinda makes you think.. hmm.
>Any oldfags that can remember what happened during watergate without the leftist history lense? My right-wing dad made us kids watch the Watergste hearings and Nixon's resignation speech. He hated the media before Trump did. He would break down the fake news at the dinner table.
Alexander Murphy
But it is the tool that Obama approved that the deep state can use as the excuse for the NSA to spy on those 'evil' terrorists... You know the 'terrorists' that the CIA/MOSSAD create.
My dad hated Nixon until recently. Now he realizes he was fucked over by the media and is questioning a lot of shit he didn't previously.
Juan Garcia
I support this operation
Austin Gomez
Your post proves the point I always make to normies... that it's you fucking commie subversion shit sticks posting most of the racist shit on Jow Forums... trying to smear people that post on here.
Getting a warrant in a FISA court consists of one or more of the appointed judges sitting down, looking at the evidence and deciding whether to issue a warrant.
I don't know what Judicial Watch was expecting to find. A public hearing for a secret court? This changes literally nothing..
Jason Campbell
If a team of right-wing journos could pull off a Watergate-style breakdown of what is already or almost known about FISA and muh Russia and the rest, they could become famous cultural icons for decades
Samuel Cook
Thing I remember most is Sam Ervin and his NC drawl. Well, the thing I remember MOST is John Dean's wife, Maureen. Sam Ervin was second...
Liam Young
Let us all go down the rabbit hole some more. Do I still get a ban for mentioning Bi ll Pri es tap or his 'interesting' wife Sab i n a??
The thing people don't seem to realize about the FISA court is that it IS a rubber stamp. It's similar but even worse than a grand jury because the court will just tell them what to get for approval if it's not initially approve AND there is nothing but for "promises of fidelity" that what is provided for the court is true.
It was born with the intent to be corrupted.
Angel Moore
Exactly what all the negative comments on the JW tweet say. Some 'impartial' judge looks at the 'evidence' and just says, yeah go spy on the future President, not problems.
>The thing people don't seem to realize about the FISA court is that it IS a rubber stamp.
And republicans were fine with it for decades... until just now for some reason. Wonder what happened to make them change their tune on the FISA court process?
Charles Rodriguez
>he still thinks it is Republicans vs Democrats how does it feel to be such a sheep?
Parker Allen
You do realize that the reason that Trump is president is because people revolted against the republican establishment, don't you?
Levi Murphy
Do we have new information on a FISA warrant on Trump? I don't understand how investigating Page is the same as investigating Trump.
Hunter Ross
Exactly. All you need is a few 'players' on the inside to ensure the FISC rubber stamp. So lets look at the names of the players...
You're right, a lot of republicans are actually still on board with FISA courts and FISA warrants. It's just the pro-Trump people among them who don't like it now. Thanks for reminding me.
Lincoln Brooks
remember when the RNC made all the candidates agree to pledge to support the Republican nominee and they made a big deal out of how it was clearly aimed at Trump?
funny how that worked out
Matthew Wright
>I don't know what Judicial Watch was expecting to find. JW was forcing the government to admit their secret court is actually not a court at all and exists only as a bureaucratic loophole to apply a thin veneer of constitutionality to a blatantly illegal act. It's one thing to claim the court is a rubber stamp and other for the government to admit it.
Camden Young
Do you have a single fact to back that up? Where are these "pro-Trump people" who supported FISA warrants?
William Turner
No, he beat out 15 establishment candidates and the dem nominee because of russian facebook ads that were purchased after the election, not because people wanted to give the government a kick in the ass, you must be a bot
Bentley Williams
And how many of them were complaining about FISA courts BEFORE it came out that it was being used against one or more Trump associates?
The only reason Trump supporters by and large even know what the fuck a FISA court is, is because Donald told them it was bad once he found out that someone on his campaign was the subject of a FISA warrant lol
Jose Young
Trump will do his best to railroad Sessions into actually doing something about it while at the same time declassifying mad Dem dirt to seal the deal for Midterms. After Trump has firm control of EVERYthing (MAGA!) he can fire Sessions if he still refuses to get off his ass about it and be clean as a whistle due to the bad optics resulting from the declassification. Midterms are everything and we are going to have an epic September and October.
Cameron Phillips
the Page surveillance was not intended for or limited to Page. It opened the channels for all communications within the Trump team. Remember Admiral Rogers meeting with Trump that was unannounced and freaked everybody out? He knew what the NSA was doing and told Trump.
>>I don't know what Judicial Watch was expecting to find. >JW was forcing the government to admit their secret court is actually not a court at all and exists only as a bureaucratic loophole to apply a thin veneer of constitutionality to a blatantly illegal act. It's one thing to claim the court is a rubber stamp and other for the government to admit it. man you got a good point there...
Aiden Wilson
Perfect summary. Read the reply's to the JW tweet to understand the cognitive dissonance the left have in regard to this corruption and abuse. It is amazing deflection and denial.
David Lewis
> It's just the pro-Trump people among them who don't like it now Everyone should be concerned when a political party is abusing government resources and trust to keep the others out of power. It's 3rd world bullshit.
Only some libertarians seem to care about spying on normal citizens these days.
>And how many of them were complaining about FISA courts BEFORE >The only reason Trump supporters by and large even know what the fuck a FISA court is
wow >Oh yeah? Why didn't they complain about X before?! >They didn't even know about X before! What idiots!
Gabriel Bailey
I don't get it, are we supposed to support an obviously corrupt process just because Trump opposes it?
Jose Wood
I didn't call anyone idiots. I said they didn't care about it before Trump told them to care about it. It's evidenced by the fact that people weren't talking about it on social media. If you want to refute that, it would probably be pretty easy to find a bunch of examples of Trump supporters complaining about FISA courts prior to the situation with Carter Page coming to light.
>Everyone should be concerned when a political party is abusing government resources and trust to keep the others out of power. It's 3rd world bullshit.
Believe me, I'll be as pissed as anyone if real evidence comes out that the FBI made this whole thing up and that Trump truly is just a good man trying to make America great, but right now I've seen nothing that convinces me of that.
I'm not just going to suddenly decide that the FBI is evil because they might be going after Trump, especially when I don't know the truth about Trump (But the shit with his friends sure looks bad).
Carson Russell
FISC is special in that it gets to play by the two hop rule so there isnt just a wiretap on carter page, but a wiretap on everyone within two degrees of carter page if carter page ever talked to don jr, and don jr talks to his dad obama tapped trumps wires......he didnt lie
James Edwards
You still think Trump is the bad guy? or his friends? Come on mate..
>I'm not just going to suddenly decide that the FBI is evil because they might be going after Trump who asked that of you? also why did mccabe and strzok and comey get fired?
Wyatt Clark
Oh and not to distract anyone but if you have some free time, check out Bill's wife's background.. hmmm...
You're basically saying that prior wrongdoing by CIA or anyone else somehow negates any potential wrongdoings by the current president and I reject that.
IF they actually manage to show (with hard evidence), that the guy in the highest office in the land is a corrupt asshole, then he needs to go.
Adrian Morris
Do you remember when typing out his name on here got you an automatic ban?
Carson Brooks
them dirty pakis. never forget.
Angel Murphy
even if that was the case, is it true?
I don't blindly follow Trump or believe all the things he says, any more than I trust CNN to always tell the truth. But to say it's impossible for either Trump or CNN to tell the truth is retarded. So, I ask you a simple question - Is it true?
Benjamin Young
Comey got fired (By the presidents own admission) because he wouldn't let up on Flynn. Trump even clarified this to Lester Holt, where he said that he was going to fire Comey for that reason, regardless of any recommendations from Rosenstein. His own words.
Strzok got fired because he's an asshole and created the appearance of impropriety with his jackass text messages.
McCabe got fired because he allowed agents to talk about an investigation into the Clinton Foundation to the media, then tried to make it look like he didn't do it when he was asked about it later.
Jeremiah Stewart
>they didn't care about it before Trump told them to care about it. They didn't care because they didn't know how corrupt it is until Trump became president.
Eli Harris
You don't get it. They are RIGHT NOW using the full reach of their power to remove a sitting president on an investigation that was predicated on a lie and a warrant that was obtained without even a hearing. 2 years into the investigation, they have uncovered nothing related to what they claimed they were investigating. This doesn't bother you in the least? Let them continue by all means looking for any smudge on his record in his 70 year lifetime just in case there was something he did somewhere along the way? But we don't know if there is, so we need to keep searching until we find something? And then when we finally find something we can say, "AHA! I TOLD YOU SO!" What about if they do this to your parents someday, or even you? Dinesh D'Souza was convicted of a felony for the election equivalent of jaywalking, violating a law no one had ever been convicted for, and retards like you are totally OK with that because you disagree with his documentaries.
>IF they actually manage to show (with hard evidence), that the guy in the highest office in the land is a corrupt asshole, then he needs to go. And what about the rest of the corrupt assholes? If Trump is removed they will all go unpunished.
Isaac Kelly
wait a fucking minute.
if Rodgers told him he was being wiretapped, then that doesn't mean he has to leave Trump tower since Carter Page would be surveiled by his cell phone. If he left the tower, that means that they were doing a lot more than spying on Page's cell phone and lap top.
Elijah Thomas
Can we march on all state capitol buildings armed to the teeth yet guise? Please?
William Scott
Just saying concentrate your concerns on the real problems. If Trump has done some shit in his past that is a real threat to the office of the President then I agree he will need to be accountable for it. I am yet to read or hear of anything even remotely close to this being the case.
Letting a corrupt asshole be president (Assuming for the purpose of this argument that he is) would somehow result in the removal of other corrupt assholes? Hows that?
Isn't it more likely that the corrupt asshole will replace other corrupt assholes with corrupt assholes who are loyal to him?
Jesus, fucking relax. You're freaking out worse than the dems during the special counsel investigation into Willy.
It wasn't predicated on a lie, you're just salty as fuck that it exists at all.
