Why is the savior of mankind a jew? Was he meant to only be the savior of the jews, or was this brand of salvation supposed to also extend to the gentiles?
I’d like some serious insight on the topic. Apologists and or those who dabble in theology up to the front, please...
I love how everyone baits the "jesus was a jew" thing like a fool.
He flipped tables and whipped dudes running hustles in the temple.
He extended the whole of salvation that jews professed was only for them, to the world.
He called them out on their self serving ways and they had him executed because he preached for peace and unity.
Samuel Barnes
Thanks for the response.
Not sure how true or rather accurate this is, but i’ve read that it wasn’t jesus but rather his apostles (e.g., paul, etc) that extended this form of salvation to the gentiles.
John Barnes
>Why is the savior of mankind a jew?
Because the Jews were entrusted with the promise of Abraham, which was fulfilled in the person of Jesus Christ.
>Was he meant to only be the savior of the jews, or was this brand of salvation supposed to also extend to the gentiles?
His salvation is universal to all of mankind because the efficacy of his infinitely meritorious sacrifice doesn't magically stop at certain ethnic or geographic boundaries. 20Now there were some Greeks among those who went up to worship at the feast.
21They came to Philip, who was from Bethsaida in Galilee, and requested of him, “Sir, we want to see Jesus.”
22Philip relayed this appeal to Andrew, and both of them went and told Jesus
23But Jesus replied, “The hour has come for the Son of Man to be glorified.
24Truly, truly, I tell you, unless a kernel of wheat falls to the ground and dies, it remains only a seed; but if it dies, it bears much fruit.
Connor Kelly
>Why is the savior of mankind a jew? A misunderstanding.
You need to understand what a "Jew" is, and what Israelites are, and understand who Lord Jesus is.
Lord Jesus is the king of all Israel, which consists of 12 tribes, and "Jews" were made up of 2.5 of the tribes because they were the ones who stayed in Judea while the other tribes went North in to exile and separated in to the Northern Kingdom.
The people who call themselves "Jews" now just reject God anyway, so not only are they anti-Christs, they probably aren't even real Israelites.
Inb4 "antisemite".
Calling Lord Jesus a Jew is like giving someone the lowest title that they deserve. If you want to use a title, why not God the Son or Word of God?
Charles Bell
If I call other white people out for doing dumb things, does that mean I'm not white anymore?
Austin Torres
Where you see "jews" in the bible, which is an on purpose mistranslation, change it to Israelites. Israelites. Not Israelis.
Andrew Murphy
According to who?
Levi Stewart
Critical thinking you fake Israelite kikerat.
Zachary Wood
He's not a jew. YOU are the jew.
Isaac Collins
>Why is the savior of mankind a jew? Stopped reading. Your thread is based on false axioms. There was no concept of "Jews" or "Judaism" until hundreds of years after Jesus was dead.
Levi Lewis
>Not sure how true or rather accurate this is, but i’ve read that it wasn’t jesus but rather his apostles (e.g., paul, etc) that extended this form of salvation to the gentiles. Whoever said this lied or was misinformed. >Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. >Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: >Luke 24:47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. t. Jesus
Blake Sanders
reminder that the white race, the caucasoids are the actual chosen people, the Israeli people. This gets clear already when you see that Mount Aratat, where Noah landed with his arc is the same place where the white people, caucasusoids, come frome from, the Caucasus en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasus de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ararat It is also known that the blue eyed people all have a common anchestor sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080130170343.htm Which most likely was Noah
Furthermore the blue eyed white people are known across the world to come around and bring technology and knowledge and rule them for some time like the seed of promise is prophesized to do. The sumerians believed the blue eyed white people where gods, the annunaki (even though i came to believe that the blue eyed possibly are other people during the sumerians, they at least have the blue eyed people and swastika as well). The Aztecs as well, and describe them from coming over the sea with a ship that moved on its own. The chinese talk about blue eyed and blonde haired people who created a civilization and ruled for some time. A lot of egyptians mummies are shown to have had blonde hair etc. And Europeans were the first in the Americas as well telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/9110838/Stone-age-Europeans-were-the-first-to-set-foot-on-North-America.html
Hitlers Ahnenerbe tried to find out about the origins of the white people, and maybe he did find out the actual israelis are the whites with the jews being the blue eyed people, who are said that they will spread across the earth and rule everywhere. Same they did during colonisations. Hitler found out the (((jews))) of today arent the jews of the bible who are just >those who belong to the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews but are liars instead.
The "white privilege" people go on about, is actually the blessing of God
The bible story is actual real history. This gets clear when you look at the story of Joseph alone. Joseph, in the bible, was sold off as slave to egypt, where he became friends with the pharao and married his daughter. He was given authority over everything. Compare that with the Yuya-mummie which was blond by the way. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuya en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_(Genesis)
Hitlers "Herrenrasse" probably was meant to mean "Rasse des Herrn" "Race of the Lord" The 1000 year Reich was meant to be the 1000 year Sabbath, the 7th day which never happened because Satan interrupted it and which is for God like a thousand years. This is why the Nazis had a sense of superiority like the Israelis had for the goyim. The (((Jew))), like everything, stole their identity from others. Just like they took german names, have plastic surgery to look more white, act white when it suits them they stole their whole identity of being a jew from the whites
>20 King Arius of the Spartans. >To the high priest Onias. Greetings! >21 It has been discovered in a written record that the Spartans and the Jews are relatives and are both of the family of Abraham. 22 Since we have learned this, please let us know how you are. 23 On our part, we write to let you know that what is yours—your livestock and property—belongs to us, and ours belongs to you. We therefore command that our envoys report to you in keeping with this.
Note that hebrew like we know it exist like this like the middle of the 19th century. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_language >Archaic Biblical Hebrew from the 10th to the 6th century BCE, corresponding to the Monarchic Period until the Babylonian Exile and represented by certain texts in the Hebrew Bible (Tanakh), notably the Song of Moses (Exodus 15) and the Song of Deborah (Judges 5). Also called Old Hebrew or Paleo-Hebrew. It was written in the Paleo-Hebrew alphabet. A script descended from this, the Samaritan alphabet, is still used by the Samaritans. Originally the bible was written in Paleo-Hebrew.
Pic related, left is Paleo Hebrew and on the right the Vinca Runes found across europe, mainly central and southeast giving a further connection between those en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleo-Hebrew_alphabet en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinča_symbols given a further connection that the real isralites and chosen people are the aryans
piramidasunca.ba/bs/latest-news/item/3495-the-oldest-writing-in-the-world-has-been-decoded.html >(1) O Three-One God of the land of Thrace, >(2) I vow in Truth to bring you all due offerings, O great Son of God, >(3) And only you (shall) I praise (and exalt), O my God (for you are) great! >(4) You who are now in your temple, (I pray, hear me), keep me safe and deliver me (from all evil)! Three one god, the trinity being a theme in the oldest text we have deciphered so far. The trinity is another theme which draws itself across a lot of culture, from sumer to egypt, to the Nordics and of course christianity written in the Vinca Runes, found in Bulgaria (Balkans)
behindthename.com/name/adam >This is the Hebrew word for "man". It could be ultimately derived from Hebrew אדם ('adam) meaning "to be red", referring to the ruddy colour of human skin red, like whites are right after birth or when too long in the sun
I'd answer your question if you came in good faith, but you didn't. You just wanna be a disingenuous a-hole.
Justin Perry
"The last shall be first and the first shall be last." This seems to be how God works, that Truth is counterintuitive or that the Spirit works opposite of the flesh. Now, God coming to earth as a mere man to be its savior, what kind of man makes the most sense? The least impressive outward looking, a Jew
Nathan Evans
Why not just read the Gospels for yourself?
Jack Long
he's right, it's all fiction and made for Palestinian Arabs who were messianic jews in ancient times. Here are the sources for the myth: >Did Jesus Exist? Dr. Robert M Price, Dr. Richard Carrier, David Fitzgerald youtube.com/watch?v=LPZ39rqaIZ0 youtube.com/watch?v=irRDkcr5Diw
copyright strike took down the last video, here's another link >CAESAR'S MESSIAH The Roman Conspiracy To Invent Jesus youtu.be/zmEScIUcvz0
Cameron Peterson
Jews were the "Chosen People" and had many special privileges in exchange for their obedience to God's law. The trouble is that the Jews had mistaken the letter of God's law for the spirit of God's law (when they followed it at all). For example, Jews had laws of animal sacrifice to atone for their sins, but also as a reminder that Jesus, who would be sacrificed to absolve humanity of Adam's original sin (and as a logical consequence, all sin), would be born from their race. They decided that they preferred their old covenant to the new laws of Christ. This is why Christians tell you that rejecting Jesus is the most Jewish thing a man can do. The following is an excerpt from the Bible showing what happened in the Temple when Jesus was crucified: Matthew 27:51: And behold the veil of the temple was rent in two from the top even to the bottom, and the earth quaked, and the rocks were rent. The crucifixion of Christ officially ended the covenant with God and the Jews, and God's chosen people became anyone who would take up the cross of Christ. This is why Zionist Christians are the greatest enemy of the True Light of Christ: they have been mislead or otherwise convinced to support Ashkenazi Jews (who aren't and never were God's chosen people and merely adopted the religion in the 8th century) in their unlawful occupation of the Holy Land.
He came to those who were in need most. His disciples were capable enough to bring the gospel to the rest of the world.
Jaxson Barnes
There are theories that historical Israelites, of which Jesus was one, and modern Jews aren't the same genealogy at all rather that modern Jews are actually Khazars and edomites who claim to have adopted Judaism and thus claim to be Jews, and the Israelites of the bible don't exist anymore.
I however think this, even if true, is irrelevant, as Jews, historical or modern, are (((Jews))) because Christ was an Israelite. Satan chose the Jews to be the (((Jews))) presumably to discredit God. Everything of this world (Satan's domain, over which he has free reign) simultaneously tries to discredit God, and yet proves His existence - if you pay attention.
The race God chose is irrelevant. God is no longer any race. Christ wasn't a consequence of (((Jews))). (((Jews))) were any indirect consequence of Him, and directly a consequence of Satan.
Nathan Barnes
God came down to Earth and became Man in the person of Jesus Christ and rebuked the Jews for breaking their covenant with him. He then canceled their covenant and created a new covenant but this time for all of mankind. All of this was prophesied in the Scriptures but the corrupt Rabbis refused to give up their power and their feeling of God-given racial superiority, so they rejected Him and killed Him, too foolish to realize that this was exactly what He wanted. By dying as Man, He was able to go to Hades the Land of the Dead and kill Death itself, thus restoring eternal life to Mankind.
Brayden Long
Jesus Christ is God, God existed before the Jews, God existed before the Hebrews, God existed before the world was created, before the universe was, God was there. The ultra materialists of the world cannot grasp this concept. Perhaps it has to do with their pineal glands being turned into calcium rocks.
This reminds me of an argument I had with some retarded liberals on facebook and one of them actually said "Oh yeah?" and posted some actual democrat like "we're all people" propaganda. He actually thought, as you apparently, that he was posting a meaningful argument. Just thinking about it I'm torn between chuckling and shedding a tear for the poor retarded lad.
Jaxson Carter
modern kikes are indeed edomites. they were living in judeah already, and eventually were forced to convert. a bit after this we suddenly have the pharisee, which Jesus called a den of vipers and children of the devil. they didnt follow the torah, but the so called "oral law", fanfiction of the prophets messages they twist around how they see fit which then became known as the tal mud. the real israelites are the whites and while lineage isnt relevant anymore for salvation, its still noteworthy since jews claiming to be the chosen people repells others since they dont want to follow a God that chose (((them))), and additionally it gives them a shield against other christians since they dont want to go against Gods chosen. Funfact, Edomites are the descendents of Essau, Jacobs/Israels brother, that seperated and waged war and shit on the israelites. Essau joined the Amalek, a canaanite tribe, and those became then with Essau together the later edomites. Now Canaanites are Hamites, which are niggers, meaning that Kikes are basically white niggers. Also Amalek count as the israelites nemesis, and who does this fit better? >Now go and strike Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and don't spare them; but kill both man and woman, infant and nursing baby, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.'" who would justify this behavior if not (((them)))? pic related, kikes even look like they were depicted.
>critical thinking That's not how facts work. You cant just "critically think" your opinion into a fact.
Matthew Thomas
>If you are God >If Aside from the obvious dodge, this is kind of the point.
Jackson Russell
the jews HATE Jesus more than anything else. The talmud says he's burning in a pot of shit in hell.
John Mitchell
God will reject antisemites (Genesis 12:3, John 4:22). Yeshua was a Jew from the line of David (Matthew 1:1, 1:6), was cut on his 8th day (Luke 2:21), taught the Parashah (Mark 6:2), kept Pesakh by the Oral Torah (Matthew 26:26-27) and Hanukkah (John 10:22-23).
As he began teaching, he told his apostles to preach to Israel, but not to Gentiles (Matthew 10:5-7). He even tested two Gentile women, being frank about not being sent for Gentiles (Matthew 15:22-28, John 4:7-27). Shaul denied God forsaking Jews (Romans 11:1-2) and reminded Jews were the first in God's plan (Romans 1:16). Besides, he only became the Gentiles' apostle to make the Jews jealous over the Gentiles getting the promises made to them (Romans 11:11) so they would repent and all be saved (Romans 11:26).
Jews didn't kill Yeshua. He said he's the one to give his own life and take it back (John 10:18). Even if the Pharisee claiming the blood is on them (Matthew 27:25) was right, he acted by what the Torah prescribed against what he saw him as (Deuteronomy 18:20-22), and the mob following him doesn't represent Jews, even back then. Remember Yeshua, the apostles and early Christians identified as Jews and kept the Jewish tradition and laws (Mark 6:2, Acts 10:14, Galatians 2:14), and thousands of people followed him (Matthew 14:21). Who were they if not Jews?
Jeremiah said Israel would get the new covenant, not the Gentiles (Jeremiah 31:31). Christians are to be watchmen for Israel (Ezekiel 33:7), praying for peace in Jerusalem and warning the Jews of dangers.
To anyone into the replacement heresy (the whole Old Testament being a metaphor whose prophecies actually apply to the Church), consider that nobody with a brain will believe you without any evidence.
Let's also get rid of the equivocation fallacy of reducing Jews to Judeans. Jews also means Israelites from all tribes, and you know it.
"Pray for the peace of Jerusalem: they shall prosper that love thee." (Psalms 122:6)
Landon Powell
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him shall not perish, but have everlasting life. (KJV)