What does it mean if girls never flirt with you?

What does it mean if girls never flirt with you?

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What do you think, dum-dum?

Every time this comes up its one of two answers:
>they do but you don't notice
>you have to make the first move because girls never wil
Now those are contradictory but what matters is that you won't hear anything else throughout this whole thread.

Well, I think it means girls don't find me attractive

But I get conflicting advice, and some people tell me I need to flirt first before girls will flirt with me. I don't know what the truth is

Maybe you are an idiot and don't see signals, how about that?

If girls are giving me signals of attraction, then they must be the most subtle and easily misinterpreted signals ever

The problem is that every subtle signal that girls might give to show attraction could just as easily be mere friendliness. There's no way of telling for sure

>mere friendliness
You proceed then and if it is the case, back off. Then repeat with another girl. You didn't know that?

You ugly with a boring body and no fashion sense

I'm too scared of rejection. I want a girl to flirt with me first so that the risk of rejection is minimal

Nope, sorry, that isn't true.

It's one of these 3 factors, pick one which you think applies to you the most:
>you are ugly
>you have closed off body language
>you don't pick up on sings of flirting

Jow Forums seems to believe there are no men that never receive any flirting.

This faggot makes the same thread about the same subject every single day, just with different wording. He knows all the answers, he's just too much of a faggot do to anything other than wallow in his self-pity.

> I'm too scared of rejection.
So fuck off then and be forever alone. Rejections are a part of the game

I think the second one applies to me.

Unfortunately theres' not much I can do. I have closed off body language because I think girls don't like me, so I act terse and cold around them to avoid being vulnerable.

There has to be a way to get a date without giving myself a fucking panic attack trying to ask out a girl

>there is not much i can do
>i have closed off body language because i think girls don't like me
This is like saying i suck at playing baseball because i never play baseball, and i never play baseball because i suck at it.

Perhaps you should learn how to play by practicing idiot.

How does one make their body language not closed off?

Imagine if you had to practice playing basketball. But the only way to practice was by actually getting out onto the court at the stadium, in a professional match, and every time you fucked up the whole crowd laughed and booed at you.

That's what it's like trying to "practice" flirting skills when you don't know what you're doing. There's no shallow end, there's no training ground for flirting. The ONLY way I can practice is by actually flirting with girls at parties and at bars. And if I do that, I'm going to get it wrong and humiliate myself in front of everyone I know, and I'll want to die from embarrassment

>There has to be a way to get a date without giving myself a fucking panic attack trying to ask out a girl
There isn't. I doubt you're handsome or rich enough for women to want to approach you in the first place.

Imagine practicing baseball by throwing a ball in your backyard. But instead, you whine and say I am scared to throw this baseball, what if I throw it and it's not a good throw?

This is how ridiculous you sound every day you make this same thread. When will you admit you do not want to improve, that you want to continue to be scared and whining? Once you finally decide that you don't want to be a whiny faggot anymore, you will progress.

>And if I do that, I'm going to get it wrong and humiliate myself in front of everyone I know
Welcome to being a single male. 99,8% of dudes have to put their hands in the fire in the hopes of getting laid.

>and I'll want to die from embarrassment
Imagine being this much of a faggot and carrying what people think of you. I genuinely hope you never actually get a date and keep creating this thread every day until the day you die. I can't imagine a girl that would want to spend time with such an insecure shitstain like you, and I say this as someone with some pretty heavy social anxiety.

Okay. So how can I make the act of asking a girl out less panic inducing?

Please don't say "by asking out girls". I don't want to embarrass myself in public or start shaking or sweating from the stress of asking a girl out. I want to lessen the anxiety BEFORE doing it

Walk upright (not looking down), make eye contact with people, have a smile on your face, have good posture and be friendly towards the people you interact with.

You know full well that flirting with a girl at a party is NOT the same as throwing a ball in your backyard. The ball isn't going to start berating you and laughing at you when you miss it with the bat, is it?

The only way to practice flirting/asking girls out is by actually doing it, which brings the risk of humiliation, embarrassment, sadness, pain, intense shame, etc.

You don't understand what it's like, sorry. No one understands. Dateless virginity has brought an unimaginable pain to my life unlike any other

idk bruh, i started to talk to a bunch of girls but it's never them flirting with me, instead they really need some help or want to approach one my super cute/hot friends... doesn't really suck but take this, you can be better friends with a girl who does not flirt with you

If there's something I'm not doing out of these things then it must be completely involuntary. How can I make sure my anxiety is actually showing and I just can't tell?

No really. You must be ugly, shit body, or no personality.

Bitches are a dime a dozen, and you can’t attract a single one? Why do you think that is?

If I knew, I wouldn't be posting here would I?

Girls have said I'm attractive before (no I didn't ask them to). They just don't want to date me

>You don't understand what it's like, sorry.
Yes I do, I was a huge fucking faggot like you that created a bunch of hypotetical scenarios in my head to prevent myself from approaching women so that I could use them as an excuse to keep acting like a faggot. It was only after I stopped giving a fuck that I managed to get laid, and that was back when I was an overweight quasi-NEET.

totally agree, don't care much about girls and shit, it happens eventually and automatically... in rare case scenarios work on your body language because girls are also human beings and you won't flirt with anyone who has a bad body language and mostly unavailable in the presentation.

Did girls flirt with you?

>stop trying too hard
>nervous or not, TALK...

>totally agree, don't care much about girls and shit, it happens eventually and automatically...

At 16 I was sad about being a dateless virgin. People told me "don't worry, it'll just happen eventually"

At 18 they told me the same. And at 20. And now at 22

It never changes. It never just happens

No. If they did I was too autistic to actually notice, so it doesn't matter.

It happens eventually if you actually put any effort in it instead of waiting things to drop on your lap. For every girl I dated there were dozens of others that rejected me.

It means they see you as a puppy, something cute or fun, but not a viable partner. You dont make them feel safe, protected, taken care of.

Quit video games, lift weights, and take up any social outdoor hobby.

what are signals i need to look out for?

I do put effort in. I put effort into my appearance, I put effort into my social life, I put effort into developing and improving myself as man.

The problem is that the only effort that "matters" in this case is actually asking girls out. And that's the ONE thing I CANNOT under any circumstances do. Rejection will destroy me and my life. It will tear everything apart

first think of them as regular people, go and talk about anything really... tag along with a friend and suggest them a movie or something. they probably wont care but it makes an impression... there is no secret formula...

>Quit video games
I only play video games socially (eg. going to a friends house to play multiplayer over some drinks)

>Lift weights
I just can't be bothered. I'm in shape, I just have no interest in lifting

>any social outdoor hobby
I play sports, some of them mixed gender. What now?

You're assuming I'm a shut-in who never speaks to women. That isn't the case

I can hold a conversation with a girl just fine. The thing that I can't do is flirt or show interest. And girls never show interest in me either. They're just friendly

And you shouldn't have listened faggot. Do you think whining about it is gonna fix anything? I was told and believed the exact same shit, and am now a kissless virgin like you, but guess what? I can actually admit that picked a poor strategy and am now suffering the consequences of it. There's no universe where complaining about how you got duped by the "just let it happen naturally" meme will suddenly earn you a girlfriend as reparation for your suffering.

Leave everything behind you and go backpacking Europe for a month. Stay in hostels, meet other travelers sharing the rooms and at the hostel bar. You will literally never see the girl you try to talk to again. Use this logic to overcome your irrational fear.

Or just go to a prostitute. It will help after you do it a few times.

>And that's the ONE thing I CANNOT under any circumstances do.
And in the great scheme of things that is the only thing that actually matters. If you can't do that then be prepared to be a virgin until the day you die.

start making friends with them before asking them out... making friends will make you understand a ton of shit about them including if they will actually make a good partner or what kind of common interests you share with them...

Cold approach never works. Stop trying to set him up for a #metoo.

What is the strategy I should use then?

The fact that I might never see a girl again doesn't make it any easier for me. I could fly to Australia or some shit and go to a bar and I'd still be scared shitless of approaching girls there even though I would be guaranteed to NEVER see any of them again

How can I make it easier? I shouldn't feel like I'm at risk of a panic attack from flirting with a girl. That's not normal

>The thing that I can't do is flirt or show interest
You don't have to be flirty to have women interested in you. I'm rarely flirty but just inviting them for a beer of a cup of coffee shows that I'm interested enough. My most successful dates were the ones where we just talked about our lives, experiencies and interests, with very little overt flirting since halfway through it was already very easy to figure out if both parties were sexually attracted to each other.

That still requires me to have the courage to ask them out though. Which I can't do. Too terrifying

Then go to therapy.

There is no therapy that specialises in removing an intense and debilitating fear of romantic rejection from men

Cognitive behavioral therapy.

What the fuck are you even scared of, being embarrassed isn't painful. You just leave and decide that it didn't happen.
>it will ruin my life
Why would you get fired from your job for getting rejected? And no, your life isn't ruined until you lose your job somehow.

You need to stop caring so much about what other people think first. You overvalue their opinions and overestimate their attention span, awareness and memory.
People have more to do than laugh at the awkward dude after high school, in case you didn't realize yet.

If you really can't bring yourself to approach girls, approach guys, ugly girls, old ladies, old men, anyone (except for kids, that's a no go). You need to at least feel indifferent to approaching people to avoid exhaling this awkwardness and fear you have, because trust me: It does show.

After you get enough balls to approach girls, start doing so, but avoid doing it in ambiguous places at first. Approach girls where you're expected to: Clubs, bars, nightclubs, lounges, pubs, parties, concerts and shows. If you're extremely nervous and shy even then, liquid courage helps (just avoid getting drunk, because you'll either: Make a fool of yourself and be extremely annoying to everyone, black out and not remember anything the next day - even if you do get laid, or straight up have an anxiety attack, not to mention the headache the next day).
There's no easy way, that's the curse of being a man. You will get disgusted stares, disinterest, rejection and even humiliation attempts, but as long as you keep trying and don't let stuff get to your head, they should be fewer and far between in time.

>What is the strategy I should use then?
The one where you ask Suzy to the 6th grade dance and awkwardly make out. At this point you're suffering because of bad choices when you were a kid, sorry. At least you didn't die. Stop blaming other people for your own failure to act.

>just go back in time

it means you're ugly and you should feel ugly.

Or the illuminati is for some strange reason cockblocking you.

Learn to live with your mistakes cunt.

Nigger, if you're such a bitch about rejection that you're having panic attacks trying to talk to women you don't need to worry about having a girlfriend. You need to figure your own life out first.

>tfw 1 & 2 but I've still managed somehow
Just a pro tip only truly ugly people are unapproachable and it's no mystery to them so if you have to ask you aren't completely fucking ugly. You can always improve your appearance (haircut, facial hair, clothes, exercise, diet, hygiene)

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Why not go to a prostitute to get over your fears?

So you've been approached?

>I'm in shape.
No, you're not faggot

Yes. That being said for a lot of the wrong reasons. I've had much better relationships going out of my way for people that I was interested in. I am not very good looking, I'm balding 5'9 and stocky, with a somewhat round face. The type of girls that go out of their way for that tend to be dumb enough to think that makes you vulnerable or fucked in the head enough to prioritize it. Women and Men aren't exclusively attracted to physical appearances, but that's all you can advertise before they get to know you. Chin up man.

You have an ugly face or are non-white.

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