"Nazi" art

I'm an artist myself and I know damn well that 99% of what I make is going to fly over people's heads or they're not going to like it for whatever reasons. You're displaying/posting/sharing your work because you want other people to appreciate it, not just because you like it.

> I share OPs appreciation for the aesthetic of nazi uniforms yet hold no political views of the nazi sort, should I not be able to consume and enjoy OPs art?

Well if there's more than two of you out there in the world I suppose that would OP's target audience, but in the meantime he's just confusing or offending people because it's such an autistic thing to do that even furries are like "hey whoa what's going on with this owo"

>even furries are like "hey whoa what's going on with this owo"
Made me kek, thanks user

Furries are liberal college degenerates. They got their minds stuffed with bullshit so much that a mere sight of something they dim as (((problematic))) makes them whine.

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>if you draw nazi uniforms, it reminds people of a dark past
>i mean, I know communists killed more people for more years and to this day it still exists in North Korea, but Nazism despite being non-existant anymore in any country is way more offensive
>if you draw nazi uniforms, it will make teenagers and kids who will find your artwork think you like nazis, so you'll be a negative influence

These were all said by the same furries who think art depicting CP, toddler sadism porn, or zoophile porn (non humanoid, feral animal porn that is) and claim it in no way influences anyone negatively, yet are offended by ww2 German soldier uniforms. Thousands of my people died due to communism yet I never am offended nor wish to censor art of someone's character in a commie uniform, because I acknowledge the difference between liking a fashion aesthetic vs supporting a corrupt ideology.

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Don't change what you do. Just ignore them and move on. Don't conpromise on your art.

>unironically comparing nazis with commies
>denying the recent rise of ideologies that are basically renamed nazis
If your argument is really this shitty, no wonder people don't buy your explanation and think you're a closet supporter. Though with Murican education system I guess it's not even your fault.

you totally sound not like a nazi at all there buddy, using the jewish parentheses and terms like degenerate as well as a funny holocaust meme

I guess that's the other side of the issue. Even if OP does something that isn't political at all and it's just about the aesthetic, he's gonna attract actual nazi sympathizers like flies to shit. Like how neo-nazis and skinheads and other racists have only seen the first 15 minutes of American History X.

Yeah, I like commie uniforms too so I've been meaning to. However, wouldn't newcomers get mad at report my "nazi" art anyway, due to not bothering to look at other work I've done?

>What reason other than they themself liking it should an artist have to have in order to display their work?
Yeah, liking an aesthetic should be all you need to draw it, not make a bunch of other excuses. Occationally, there are more reasons, such as silly jokes I sometimes make with nazis acting dramatic. I once drew a cutsey house cat in a dramatic pose saying "fuhrer, I have FAILED YOU", inspired by that nazi dexter meme I've seen floating around.

>OP, consider wether the people who take issue with this are genuinely in a position to do you any harm.
I was wondering about this. The art site I want to post to already has a lot of nazi themed art, and it says slightly offensive art is fine so long as it isn't flat out someone saying "kill x race" or some nazi holding a gun to a jew's head, which I'd never draw anyway because I only like the uniform.

However, a friend pointed out that one day, at any time, the site rules may change due to new mods and then my account could get banned just for that. So it has gotten me anxious.

Actually there's a lot of people who like nazi uniforms in art. There's even some guy who draws a zombie demon with a horse skull for a head who wears a nazi uniform and you are lying if that doesn't sound bad ass. Most of my followers are liberal or feminist people yet a fair amount of them left likes on my nazi art.

If you like it, none should demand you stop drawing it, unless you use art to promote a harmful ideology or world view directly. It does not matter if you personally like or dislike it. If we did what people like you said, more and more themes would simply get censored just because "it hurts my feelies". Nazi art used to offend me a lot too but then I grew up.

>none should demand you stop drawing it
This is as much freedom of expression as you drawing it.

I can confirm this, as someone who's been in big artist friend groups that had some furries in there. They were always the ones who'd get offended the most. There was someone that made a whole video about how they left the furfag Fandom because they noticed if you don't agree with popular opinions 24/7, the Fandom will harass you to no end.

I'm not fucking American, you idiot. Commies killed way more humans, including thousands in my own land, we are forced to learn every single detail about commie scum. Nazis are autistic but not nearly as dangerously autistic as commies were. And no, nazis don't exist anymore. Mildly racist Christians aren't the same as neo nazi skinheads who go around curb stomping minorities.

Also alt-right limp wristed sissy faggots don't equal skinheads that actually murdered people all the time. I see antifa commies murdering people all the time but never a self proclaimed alt righter. And I hate both of them.

>I see antifa commies murdering people all the time

No you don't

I doubt neo nazis would be into my art, it's cutsey animals like cats and squirelz in nazi uniforms because it's weird and dumb to mix two contradicting things together.

You can't be drawing literal nazis and not expect some people to be like "hey what the fuck are these nazis?" what did you think was going to happen exactly

doesn't matter they'd be like "oh hitler was a vegetarian and he loved dogs sig heil mein brother"

>I'm not fucking American
Too bad, now you don't even have an excuse for your poor education.
>Commies killed way more humans
It's not fucking call of duty. Context matters. Wiping off people who don't look like them isn't a part of commie ideology. Nazis failing at their goals and barely lasting doesn't affect how the ideology obsessed with mass murder works. Jesus fuck, are you at least underage?

>kneeling to fucking furries of all people

Undeniably true
>However, a friend pointed out [...]
Do you think that this change is imminent, or is it just a future hypothetical? If the latter, then I don't think that fear should stop you from expressing yourself, if the former, then I'd suggest trying to move to another site first.

>nazi and commie fanart is a thing in anno domini 2018
Just let that sink in

Not particularly strange really, the darkest parts of the human soul have always been fascinating to people

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Maybe I find it so incomprehensible and disrespectful because my country was infested and destroyed by both nazism and communism and now I see some autists fetishizing and glorifying these failed ideological systems because "muh /fa/ aesthetics :DD"
Shit's fucked up

I do. There's a city nearby full of commie antifa people who literally beat up people if you go anywhere near them. Literal terrorists. A Jewish person walked up there once and got called a "nazi" for no reason and they tried to attack and kill him twice. There's video footage on YouTube even.

But people called it hate speech despite lack of any hate nor speech.

Oh well. There's still a description of each drawing saying I hate nazis. Even if they like it for the wrong reasons, who cares? Let them be dumb.

Nazis weren't obsessed with killing 24/7, until much later on Hitler went ape shit crazy with power and was like "yeah lol let's kill some people". Commies always killed and censored and did much much worse harm but countries that aren't destroyed by commies will hide that and be too lazy to mention. I live in a post commie torn country, I know this better than you, because we teach our students every single thing that our parents and ancestors lived through. My grandparents and parents literally lived through communism.

So long as commie propaganda is allowed, I'll draw dumb nazi jokes that aren't even serious.

They ran over every art website by this point because they aren't bullied anymore.

There's no other site that has as much freedom currently. It's the only site that will bring you thousands of images when you search "nazi".

That too. Many people draw serial killers and even have characters who are rapists and it is seen as "fine, it's just fascination and not promotion".

But if you draw a ww2 uniform on someone, oh no, ban it.

My country is still destroyed due to communism, and?

People make murder jokes/art to cope with how dark the world is. My friend was raped so they make lots of rape jokes to cope.

I'm not going to act like this retarded crazy Christian parents that ban everything fun despite context. If you don't support the ideology and just like the looks of it, then it's fine. Get off the website if it offends you more than me.

where are these murders you speak of

lmao no one cares about your country.

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>Nazis weren't obsessed with killing 24/7,
Negro, please. Their entire rise to power is full on kill mode, they even went to kill each other at start.
>Hitler went ape shit crazy with power and was like "yeah lol let's kill some people"
Almost like he wrote a book about just that way before that ... Just stop. Take a break from jerking off and read a fucking history book.

If you're posting your art where any hyper-liberal people lurk; you're going to be critiqued and silenced. In todays political climate unfortunately thats just how it works.

I understand how nazis look cool user. I've painted nazi zombies before. Even Lemmy from motorheads whole attire was based on the Nazi side of wold war II. The ramones sang "blitzkrieg bop". It's okay to explore the themes of the past.

Why are you writing 700 words per post to try and argue against the fact that people will get offended at fuckin Nazis and there's nothing you can do to change that

Dude stop being a wussy faggot. There are books, videogames, movies, music ect that all have themes of nazi shit. Get off your high horse and join the real world.

>In todays political climate unfortunately

There was never a time where Nazi imagery was seen as cool or accepted, whenever it did show up in pop culture it was to be offensive or controversial.

>i don't like something so you can't!

Nazis have always made the best villains in popular culture IMO and you won't change my mind.

>My friend was raped so they make lots of rape jokes to cope.
Yikes
I do hope, actually, that your site will change the rules and your account will get banned. You can't separate commie or nazi fashion from the ideology behind it and then pretend it's just harmless fun. In reality it's affirming and promoting the ideology and portraying it as less harmful than it really is.
>who cares that commies/nazis committed crimes against humanity, at least they outfits are so on point!
If your country really suffers under communism and you downplay it by making worthless cute/funny/silly "art" featuring whatever aspects of it you find "interesting", you are either glaringly immature or completely shameless. Or stupid.

>There are books, videogames, movies, music ect that all have themes of nazi shit.

Yes. Those exist, and depending on their context people may or may not be offended by those as well.

>Get off your high horse and join the real world.

I never said that OP was a bad and that he was a nazi and he should be trialed at Nurembeg. I'm not on any high horse or living in a dream world.

I just want you to accept the simple fact that nazi imagery is actually very likely to be offensive when used in the wrong context. That's part of the real world, so just deal with it one way or another.

My dude, I don't think you have much to worry about really, these people have their will done through threats and fear, kowtowing to them is the last thing one should do. But it doesn't hurt to be safe, keep backups of all your shit and try to find atleast one more site to upload to. Perhaps Pixiv, already a whole bunch of nazi-themed artwork there. Slap an r-18 rating on it if you're paranoid.

>Nazis have always made the best villains in popular culture IMO

I never said they didn't, and that's unrelated to what OP is doing.

Yes it is. He's got a bunch of liberal furry faggots mad at him over something trivial.

If your whole point is "some people will be mad!!" then you're basically an ideological infant. The argument should be: Some overly-sensitive people who have no need to be mad will try to dissuade you and you should not stop creating art.

>I do hope, actually, that your site will change the rules and your account will get banned.
I just find it funny how modern day leftist are the only ones now advocating for censorship.

Since when being against Nazi imagery is being overly-sensitive? Irl the majority of normal people is against it

and he's mad, posting about it here, being overly-sensitive, and you're twice as upset as he is.

My point is that if you create and SHARE art that will likely be seen as offensive or controversial, don't act surprised by people's reactions - grow a thicker skin and/or listen to criticism.

"no"

I'm surprised you mind, after all censorship was a common nazi practice

yeah, modern day right-wing people just want to ban human beings

I'm not upset, i'm just dismantling his shit arguments.

butthurt belt

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everyone right to center is a nazi in your opinion apparently, so i'm not even sure why the other user is bothering to argue with you.
Are you here to preach virtue signalling or are you going to give some actual advice about Nazism in popular culture/art?

This desu, all art will attract criticism, it is up to OP to judge wether that criticism is valid or not, and then decide to change his ways or keep on going.

Nonwhites don't have a right to white countries

I feel so sorry for you and hope you fix your life

Find the flaw in the statement, subhuman.

Desu what advice can be given? Is it provocative? Yes. Is it decent? Depends on whom you ask. But it's one of these things that will make some people angry. If op can't handle this then he should stop posting his shit online were people may get bothered by it and give him shit for being a nazi-lover

>everyone right to center is a nazi in your opinion apparently

Say hello to "literally hitler" who is now posting in this thread

and everyone to the left of you is a SJW communist antifa blah blah who cares

>are you going to give some actual advice about Nazism in popular culture/art?

yeah "grow a thicker skin if you're going to post nazi furry art on the internet and people have mixed feelings about it"

I hope that someday you work through all the anger and hate you currently possess

Not an argument. I hope you eventually learn what constitutes one, but given the track record of resident hedonists here, I doubt you will.
>anger
Why wouldn't I be angry at current trends, and why would it be bad if I am?
>hate
Meme term.
Do you hate "Nazis"? If yes, then it clearly isn't unconditionally bad even in your view, it's just a word used to fill up space when you can't think of anything else.

Jow Forums has rotted your brain. I hope tomorrow is a better day for you.

>I hope you eventually learn what constitutes one, but given the track record of resident hedonists here, I doubt you will.

lmao what kind of life do you live where you hang out on the advice board just to tripfag as "literally Hitler" and then act all offended how everyone on the board is a degenerate and not a nazi at all on this Vietnamese cave painting message board, you must be cool as hell

Stop responding to him, it just excites him more and germinates more shitposts

>post with effort and reasoning
>shitpost

>emotional one-liner based on unverifiable assumption
>legitimate response
Peak intellect

>the virgin tripfag vs the Chad user

You still haven't answered the question, and instead you're moving onto another angle of attack on who I am.
The basic point which you keep trying to avoid is that nonwhites are not entitled to white countries, and one doesn't have to be a "Nazi" (either in the ideological sense or meme sense) to believe such a thing. I don't care if someone doesn't LARP about a 95-year-old German political movement, but what really sets me off is when people pretend to have an argument when their posts are utterly devoid of either meaning or sense.

Yeah, sure, say for the sake of argument that I'm a pathetic incel sack of shit. So what? That doesn't change the fact you don't have an argument and you probably never will.

This will be my final response to your rehashed "omg who hurt you" posts unless you say something meriting actual thought.

>instantly assuming I'm a nazi
Again, the absolute state of modern leftism will always perplex me

>You still haven't answered the question, and instead you're moving onto another angle of attack on who I am.
>The basic point which you keep trying to avoid is that nonwhites are not entitled to white countries, and furthermore I am gay and autistic

lmao I wasn't answering any of your questions or whatever I'm just an anonymous poster making fun of you, go to pol if you want to talk about all this dumb shit about immigration like you or I have any control over it, you're worse than a SJW

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I don't know if you know this but if you go into settings you can filter posts based on names and tripcodes. Its in the upper right hand corner of the screen. I filtered his tripcode months ago so I don't see his posts anymore. It makes browsing this board infinitely more pleasant.

He's actually got you pigeonholed. You have no arguments and you refuse because you're either a coward or can't back up your claims.

>assuming he's a leftist, and a modern one at that

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Responding to him only makes it worse. He's a sad KHV who spends his days arguing with people on Jow Forums. Its best to filter his trip and be done with it.

>le "right wants to ban human beings" post
>called out for bullshit
>lol I troll you
Whatever you say. At least you've stopped the pretense you had an argument, so I got what I came for.
Based and redpilled.
I know you'll hide this post after seeing it, but friendly reminder that running from facts and opinions you don't like is self-defeating.

t. your favorite tripfag

>arguments
>claims

I didn't make any I wasn't the guy he was talking to originally I just came here to make a single post making fun of him and it worked

>but why would you rudely interrupt this very important exchange of ideas between two posters

uh, a little thing called freedom of speech

>Misusing the term "pigeonholed"

Wew lad its brainlet season.

Idk, I assumed you're the OP. I feel like since OP loves drawing furry nazi anime so much it would be only logical to assume that he stans other aspects of the system as well.

who are you quoting?

The fact that he removes his trip for the sole purpose of arguing with people that want nothing to do with him speaks volumes of his character.

The fact that you're afraid of arguing with someone you deem "worse off" speaks loads more about yours.

The people who like to post non-arguments.
Scroll up ITT.
What?
And filtering uncomfortable opinions doesn't?
Get off your high horse, fag.

He'll just say "he's too far gone" or "I don't have the time to argue", neither of which are really true, because if he didn't care about my posts he wouldn't feel the need to hide from them.

>posting both on and off trip
Autism

>bait poster trys to provoke someone
>you take the bait thinking you would just make him look bad
>bait poster actually makes a legitimate argument
>you admit defeat
lmao

I am literally hitler and cowards are afraid of my huge intellect and tiny black penis haha

Cringe

Believe me, he was a complete shitbag even before finding Jow Forums.

>OMG FRUFAG GET MAD AT MY NAZI AESTHETICS, HELP

>And filtering uncomfortable opinions doesn't?
Refusing to engage with angry, toxic people who have no interest in logic or civility is not "filtering uncomfortable opinions". Refusing to pretend like you're having an intellectual conversation with someone who has openly called for the execution and torture of people he doesn't like doesn't negatively reflect on me no matter how you try to spin it. You seem to think that the pinnacle of intellect is never drawing a line between discourse and rhetoric and simply pretending that all arguments, including those that support genocide and public executions, deserve the same consideration. That couldn't be farther from the truth. Normalizing evil for the sake of appearing moderate and understanding is a moral and intellectual failure. There is no argument to justify publicly skinning adulterers alive (something Hitler himself has called for) therefore there is no context in which I owe that kind of toxic ideology any consideration or attention. If you fail to understand that concept then, at the risk of sounding like I'm on a "high horse", you and I aren't on the same level.

If you appease one, you'll be forced to appease all. Fuck 'em, they're probably closet commies anyways.

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>toxic people who have no interest in logic or civility
Except I am civil to those who are civil to me.
I reserve my outbursts for unrepentant degenerates or those who think attacking me amounts to an argument. As for logic, I find that laughable for the one who can't even look at evidence, let alone consider it.

>openly called for the execution and torture of people he doesn't like
False, I know the difference between disliking someone and wanting them punished for wrongdoing (disagreeing isn't a crime)--there are certain things which should be a capital offense or at least a de facto death, and "crimes of passion" are hardly an idea unique to me. In any case even my 'worst' postings are outright benign for Jow Forums, where you have gore threads that people jack off to.

> including those that support genocide
I've never done that, not even in shitposts.

>Normalizing evil
It's always a lefty, isn't it.

>There is no argument to justify publicly skinning adulterers alive
That post was to illustrate a difference, not to be taken literally, but I'll humor the assumption:
Why not? You'd use anesthetic, of course, but it is a very effective deterrent. This amounts to fake moral outrage from someone who doesn't have an argument. Given the proper set of circumstances and goals, you can justify anything you want. For example, if we operate under the a priori assumption that sexual pleasure is the most important thing in life, rape is easily justifiable. And before you twist what I'm saying, I have said on multiple occasions that forcible rape should be a capital offense.

op just make a comic about you gassing furries

get btfo libcuck

NOTHING
op do nothing! if you capitulate in ANY WAY they will see that fucking with you works to get what they want and they will keep at it until you're bullied off of whatever site you're using or until your art is so """unoffensive""" that creating it literally makes you feel empty inside and angry about it. this is a pattern that WILL play out if you leave them an opening. "give an inch, take a mile" is a saying for a reason and FAGGOTS LIKE THIS *ARE* THAT REASON. don't apologise. don't change your drawings. don't change your drawing style or inspiration or aesthetic. no apology will be good enough and the demands will not stop. stand your ground and don't back down. don't defend yourself or explain yourself. you will regret it.

Thanks for the motivation, user. It's so strange how my homeland is 100% fine with nazi and confederate themed art, so long as you don't genuinely support murder, yet the internet is full of butthurt. I wonder when will people wise up.

Oh I don't care about criticism by this point anymore, I just care about whether or not the site I'm posting on will suddenly get shit tier mods that'd ban my account or art.

Reminds me of the 2000s, I miss the day everyone universally agreed furries were degenerate. It reduced them from breeding and multiplying.

Aren't most liberal types these days anyway? Such a surreal world it has become.

Please don't bully Lithuania-chan

Actually, no. Nazis didn't have a hard on for censorship. Communists were. Commies literally censored everything that wasn't praising their corrupt ideology 24/7, just look into North Korean commie propaganda even. Same shit.

Gee, user, you sure must be a killjoy at parties. You sound like that one girl who is offended by literally every small joke, until the friend group gets fed up and tries to ditch you.

Ironic, is it not? Honestly nothing should be censored, we should be allowed to literally express any opinions and drawings, because without seeing extremists, we cannot learn what makes extremists crazy. Meanwhile these people want to censor everything. Let them censor harmless nazi art, then in a few years you'll be jailed if you say "a penis is a male biological trait".

Actually... I don't care that much about people being offended as I am more concerned on the website itself changing its rules for censorship.

When I was in kindergarten, I got in trouble for drawing swastikas.
I had no idea what the problem was at the time, but today, I can see how a jew would take offense to that, thinking my parents were Nazis.
I just thought it looked cool.