I am 37 years old. I am 6'3 and have a good job and have never been married and don't have any kids.
I want to start a family, the fact is that women my age are not suited to have children. I want to have 2 or 3 kids so I want to find a girl about 25 years old to start off with and marry and love. How do I convince at girl 12+ years younger than me to be with me? I sent out 50 emails on match.com last week and did not get one response, what can I do? pic related it's me
I had my first baby at 37 and my second at 39. Natural childbirth, no complications.
My daughters are 9 and 11 now and are probably the most beautiful, healthy and intelligent girls in the world.
Not suitable, my ass.
Can't be real but, I'll bite. Get rid of the stupid hearts in your pic. Get a different pic all together. Take one outside with a nice background. Smile and look at the damn camera. That's all I have the energy for right now. I can't fix you in the time I have available.
Have you ever had a gf or had sex?
Don't care, risk of birth defects goes to the moon, don't want to play russian roulette
it's real, how is this, want a link to my okc acct?
>Have you ever had a gf or had sex?
yes and yes
You look like a loser bro
I'm guessing your emails are equally cringey
all the girls on OKC and match are using snapchat filters so i thought it would be funny
like literally 80%
>You look like a loser bro
wat
>I'm guessing your emails are equally cringey
I don't think so I always say something about what is in their profile after reading it. I have a good job and am college educated
Can you give us one example of a message you sent that you think was pretty good?
The answer is to never use the internet for dating. Women online get so much attention that they get their absolute pick of the litter and it goes to their heads. It also is a terrible way to display your qualities and puts you in a much larger pool of men for them to sift through.
>Harsh...
Don't listen to that fag. The pic is better. My point was to attract a younger woman is not the hard part. It's keeping a younger woman like that happy. Facts are facts, it's harder in some ways to bridge that age gap. Depends on the woman and how you two relate and if you both enjoy the same things. Just be you bro, that's all a man can ever do. Don't try to change who you to attract a certain type of woman, never works out. Be you and you will find someone that matches you, no matter what age.
Why are you, a basement dwelling incel, attempting to give advice about dating?
25 yo girls usually are either already taken or have better options...
Ah, this user is correct. And you, are the stupid fuck here, friend.
>Can you give us one example of a message you sent that you think was pretty good?
to a girl who talked a lot about grammar
>Can you give us one example of a message you sent that you think was pretty good?
to a girl who said she read tolstoy
Risk of birth defects only starts going up after 40. You could go for 30-35 year old and you probably wouldn’t have any issues. But you want a 25 year old when you’re ugly and old yourself? LOL.
>Just be you bro, that's all a man can ever do.
i have a feeling i should be someone else
>Risk of birth defects only starts going up after 40.
that is categorically untrue
You look like the kinda guy who would message me, thinking I'm 18 or younger, and go 'Hey :3 XD' Very cringe, very creepy, nope nope nope
>explain?
>'Hey :3 XD'
never
if being me worked i would already be married and have kids
0/10 stale forced meme.
OP, a man's value goes way up in his 30s, while a woman's goes down. It's just because the internet is your focus that you're not getting what you usually would. Regardless of what you bring to the table, you're still being compared to the absolute top-level picks and that's why nothing is happening. Getting a younger woman wont be hard outside of that.
Nah, you just haven't met her yet. You can't think the way you're thinking. The number one turn off is self doubt. You don't have to change you to find the one you want to be with. Get out more, go to places that you enjoy, you may met her. Gotta be positive about shit, when you're positive, positive shit happens. Get that negative shit outta their.
I don't know, I can try that. I just want to find a girl of healthy reproductive age who is ready to have a child and enter into a partnership of mutual support for that purpose
what can i do to make progress?
oh shit my bros on another board are telling me to get on tinder, I don't know about that. Also my friend who is a girl (she is sweet and married and has kids) says I am a good guy and that she is going to find me a wife.
as you can see in my above messages I try to find girls with well thought out profiles and ask them about books and shit, i don't think tinder lends itself to that, am i right in that assumption?
recent full body shot
OP looks overweight and is overweight. When you say "I'm 6'3"" but neglect to put your weight you're trying to emphasis "hey I'm tall and that's attractive!" but you're leaving out a big detail... your weight. So what you're relatively tall, you're still fat. Devil's in the details. People can be vain as fuck and OP is fat.
Lose weight, lose the rapist facial hair, and shave your head you aren't fooling anyone that hairdo. Then you might have a chance with a younger chick.
Lower your expectations man, unless you are relatively rich, you are probably going to have to settle with a 6 tops.
>OP looks overweight and is overweight. When you say "I'm 6'3"" but neglect to put your weight you're trying to emphasis "hey I'm tall and that's attractive!"
I weigh 264 lbs
>Lower your expectations man, unless you are relatively rich, you are probably going to have to settle with a 6 tops.
6 is fine, I am not so focused on facial features as healthy reproductive age
>shave your head you aren't fooling anyone that hairdo.
lol wat i have the thickest head of hair imaginable
Less of an issue for older guys and I didn't even care to acknowledge the height stuff. What I said is still very true regardless of weight. The real issue here would be that cancerous filter on his picture implying his behavior is childish.
>bros
Case and point.
>Case and point.
Incorrect grammar.
You are bros, you are on Jow Forums..
>cancerous filter on his picture implying his behavior is childish.
it's one of 8 photos
literally and without exaggeration 8 out of 10 girls in their 30s use snapchat filters in online dating profiles
Are you looking a gf/wife or just a female to breed? You sound like you care only about having children and it's a bit creepy to be honest.
>Are you looking a gf/wife or just a female to breed? You sound like you care only about having children and it's a bit creepy to be honest.
Wow, you find a guy who wants to marry and provide for a child and work a job and buy a house and it's "creepy" huh
yeah
Yeah, key word, girls. Not dudes, ever, never ever do that. I don't care what the "new" shit is on FB. It's all lame, and if you get a woman that's like that, drop her like it's hot. Fo real.
I don't want to be with someone who is with me only/mainly because I'm a fit specimen for carrying his children - that is creepy, yes.
This is honestly how it sounds. Dude should just hire a surrogate mother and stop pretending he cares about the woman.
Trophy wife is what I'm reading here. I think user should just buy his wife and be done with it.
I met a girl that showed some interest but I didn't reciprocate, we remained friends and she found a boyfriend. She keeps calling me and talking about her day and always ask to grab a cup of coffee with her. The problem is I started to like her. How should I deal with this situation?
Nobody worth anyone's time does it first off, plus those are women. Is the idea for using it that you'll seem competent with the technology or something? Regardless, it's putting a big stigma on you that MANY people of all types will avoid you for. Especially a man in his 30s.
How big is your dick?
>pic related it's me
Fuck off back to /soc/
sage
>Nobody worth anyone's time does it first off, plus those are women. Is the idea for using it that you'll seem competent with the technology or something? Regardless, it's putting a big stigma on you that MANY people of all types will avoid you for. Especially a man in his 30s.
it's one of my photos and it is tagged "if you girls are using snapchat filters I am going to be a pretty princess too!"
>How big is your dick?
it's honestly pretty big
>it's one of my photos and it is tagged "if you girls are using snapchat filters I am going to be a pretty princess too!"
Fuck, thats cringy man
>Trophy wife is what I'm reading here. I think user should just buy his wife and be done with it.
wow what is wrong with you people
>I don't want to be with someone who is with me only/mainly because I'm a fit specimen for carrying his children - that is creepy, yes.
enjoy your mental state where a man wanting to marry and love you and raise a family is the height of creepiness!
Doesn't make it better, in fact it's trying too hard to appeal to younger women by calling them out.
37 to 25 is doable i think
Imo OP you need to maximize attractiveness. I have a buddy that's 39 and fucks girls as young as 19 because he's attractive. He also learned pickup, which helped a bunch too
I think if you lose a lot of fat you could look pretty good. Not to say you look bad right now - just that you could look better. No need for bodybuilding or anything; just bodyfat percentage reduction. Probably get a new haircut too
Here's my recommendations:
1. Read Models by Mark Manson. Mandatory reading for basically all guys
2. Check out Stronglifts.com . Its a simple workout program for beginners. It works.
3. If you're interested in pickup, check out The Natural by RSDMax. This is what helped my buddy, and what helped me. It's expensive, but you have money.
Its not what I'd call normal pickup; its 'post-pickup', which is a newer school of thought in the discipline that moves away from 'gamey' techniques and focuses on holistic improvement/learning.
People often scoff at the idea of pickup, but I say this: if you wanted to become a scientist, would you just get a lab set and just 'do some science' and hope to be successful? No, you'd get some books; do some courses, and familiarise yourself with the progress made in your field by preceding eras. So it is with relationships and dating: intelligent men have gone out and explored the field, recorded their findings, analyzed them, and have brought back knowledge to society. Its foolish to disregard their work or to blindly hope you'll learn the same lessons as them.
>it's honestly pretty big
You never measured it?
It's only relevant as far as judging your personality goes anyway, you shouldn't be looking online for women like I said in the first place.
wow this is good advice, thank you friendo I will look into it. I have been eating only 1800 cals a day for the last 2 months and have lost a lot of weight, I am prepared to eat right and work out if it will help me find a wife and start a nice family. It's only wise to start a healthy lifestyle together
>It's only relevant as far as judging your personality goes anyway, you shouldn't be looking online for women like I said in the first place.
I work on computers and have my own office and manage a department, I only ever deal with guys all day
Then go where the women are, ah duh
I think that's the first time you even mention love. All your previous posts imply that you just want to find a girl physically suitable for having your kids
>37
well why'd you wait so damn long?
It’s only after 35 that it really becomes an issue.
>I think that's the first time you even mention love. All your previous posts imply that you just want to find a girl physically suitable for having your kids
I want to marry and love a women with the criteria being she's not 5 years older than me to start off with
>Then go where the women are, ah duh
I actually come off as bear strong IRL and I am friends with the people who run my gym, they have asked me if I would like to work the counter and help people out on the weekend, i guess i should do that, there are a lot of nice women who come into my gym
first of all what's your zodiac sign
other anons place your bets right now before op response my bet is pisces
shut the fuck up you stuckup sickass soggy noodle cunt my pussy turns into a waterfall and my heart leaps out of my chest for heartful men (im mentally ill tho so i guess i dont count)
You don't date at work anyway, that's a standard rule of thumb. Either you can keep trying to fish in the wasteland where your odds are awful or walk toward the oasis.
>37
Wew
I hope you are ok with a 25 year old with no money, loyalty or attractiveness.
Probably should have started a family at a sooner age if you wanted to be assured it would be with a younger woman
well yes, but you have to see that even if I meet a girl tomorrow who is 32 by the time we get married and shit she will be in the risk pool, and deep in the risk pool by the time we have kid 2 or 3
hence why i need a girl in her 20s
>well why'd you wait so damn long?
it's too easy to be single, I just woke up one day last year and realized i was old and just had focused on my career too much, sneaks up on you
december 15th, sagutarious
>I hope you are ok with a 25 year old with no money, loyalty or attractiveness.
don't care about money, I have lots of money, Don't care about her being "hot" just healthy and loving, I need loyalty though in a wife
Not OP, I'm aquarious - which type of girl should I pursue?
OP I'll bet you can land a 29-35 year old, slightly overweight, 5/10 face. at church or through some work acquaintance. She'll be looking to settle and you sir have settle written all over you.
Or since you're tall, you could target a big moose with a nicer face like 5'10" and up, even though she is built like an outhouse
>She'll be looking to settle and you sir have settle written all over you.
yeah im willing to settle
>Or since you're tall, you could target a big moose with a nicer face like 5'10" and up, even though she is built like an outhouse
You seem to be focused a lot on a woman's physical appearance. I am more focused on finding a loving healthy wife to raise a family with and cherish as a person.
You could meet a 28 year old, be married in 2 years, have a baby soon after at age 30. another when she’s 31-32, etc. could probably have 3 before she hits 35. you’re also failing to consider that a girl in her late 20s or early 30s is going to be feeling the pressure to have a kid as soon as possible, a 25 year old is more likely to be wanting to wait a few years to get married or have children and then you end up in the same place anyways.
28 is fine, yeah
just not 5 years older than me, got to be practical
>my bet is pisces
We piscians know better than to camwhore on Jow Forums
This. My friend married a 24 year old with the idea that she would be nice and fertile. But once they were married she said she didn’t feel “ready” to have kids yet and just wanted to “enjoy her 20s” and “enjoy being married” for a few years, etc. Said she didn’t even want to think about getting pregnant until she was 30.
Yep, good start. Gotta go where people are to meet people. Internet is for fun. Real world is for meeting people.
ok, i was thinking you had some hard rule of ONLY girls 25 and younger and that seemed stupid to me. you’re probably safe going up to age 28 or even 29 if you want 2-3 kids, as long as you get married within 2 years. which shouldn’t be an issue, most girls around that age are feeling pretty desperate.
>Focused on physical
Helping to narrow your targets, you might be misoverestimating the females that might marry you
>misoverestimating the females that might marry you
wat
>which shouldn’t be an issue, most girls around that age are feeling pretty desperate.
yeah i live in birmingham alabama and a lot of the girls around here get really desperate when they start to push 30 as all their friends are married and cranking out babies, i am hoping to use their declining standards to my advantage
also a lot of guys who are 28 won't directly say "I want to settle down and spend my money having children right now" I am in that mode though
Try to keep up, user
just looking for girls with a nice healthy cervix
no HPV
This should be in your match.com profile.
Solid gold
I thought about putting in there "no fatties" unless they were under 25 and wiling to lose weight
they honest to god should let you screen out people with herpes and hpv
omg just found a girl on match who is 22 and put that she likes older guys and her age range is 30-44 for matches
Tell em what you want
You're amazing and deserve the best, my dude
If I deserved the best I would not be willing to put 6/10s on a diet user
>If I deserved the best I would not be willing to put 6/10s on a diet user
gods work
As a 24 year old female, you do look a lot older . Shave and get a cleaner more moder haircut, work out. Females our age, we are kinda just living life and enjoying it.
>As a 24 year old female, you do look a lot older . Shave and get a cleaner more moder haircut, work out. Females our age, we are kinda just living life and enjoying it.
i can do that thanks
If the online thing isn't working out you could try and get a wing man and go to some higher end bars (think bars without young 20 year olds) and try to find women there.
you think i would do better in person?
Bro never listen to women for advice or comfort. They only just just say things to make you feel better and I guarantee they think less of you if you show weakness. You need to get redpilled. Head over to theredpill. Its 90% an incel women hater club but there are some gold nuggets in there.
Gotta say OP I'm impressed you didn't abandon thread after all the shit you copped.
Good luck on finding your girl
It's certainly worth a shot
>Gotta say OP I'm impressed you didn't abandon thread after all the shit you copped.
thanks, I have been partially joking but honestly need someone younger for my plans to work out. I have also been thinking about just impregnating a lesbian couple and calling it a day. Then I could just find love on love's own terms and not worry about having a kid. I have a friend whose sister just married a woman, she is 29 and her wife is 26 and they have expressed interest in me, I would want to have a relationship with my kids though, kind of like an uncle figure and to help pay for college etc... They are a sweet couple and I think it could work out.
>It's certainly worth a shot
I had 21 year old girl who worked the counter at subway try to pick me up last year after she discerned I had disposable income, it could happen i guess.
>Bro never listen to women for advice or comfort. They only just just say things to make you feel better and I guarantee they think less of you if you show weakness. You need to get redpilled. Head over to theredpill. Its 90% an incel women hater club but there are some gold nuggets in there.
hmmmm
SeekingArrangement.
>SeekingArrangement.
is that not an escort site? doubt girls wanting to be compensated for time are trying to get knocked up
No, it's a sugar baby / nsa site. Not pros, just normal girls. Lots of college aged girls who mainly want a sugar daddy. But sometimes those relationships turn into marriages. It's by far the easiest way to just find young girls to have relationships with. Worth a try. You won't get any girls there if you say you just want a baby factory, but neither will you on any other site.
>No, it's a sugar baby / nsa site. Not pros, just normal girls. Lots of college aged girls who mainly want a sugar daddy. But sometimes those relationships turn into marriages. It's by far the easiest way to just find young girls to have relationships with.
that's weird not sure I comprehend fully
>You won't get any girls there if you say you just want a baby factory, but neither will you on any other site.
you would be surprised how many girls on POF age say 28-35 are straight up saying "I am not here to play around or just date I want to get married and settle down and have kids and if you are not looking for that don't message me"
Go take tango lessons in your area. (no, it can not be any other dance)
In order to dance tango you need a man and a woman, or you don't get to dance.
The man to woman ratio there is insanely disproportionate.
You'll literally have girls fighting for you once you learn a bit.
It's kinda easy for a man to learn to dance tango in a good enough level, he just leads, she does all the fancy stuff.
There you get to meet lots of girls, mostly young healthy and non feminists, though some old rags and other exceptions too, but you get to choose who you dedicate your time to.
>How do I convince at girl 12+ years younger than me to be with me?
You don't. You just pick a girl under 26 that already wants to start a family. That's not obsessed with "her career", that "loves children", etc